View Full Version : whats a good shot gun
November 24, 2008, 07:20 PM
i was wondering what the best all around shot gun is gauge shell length and name i look to do turkey deer waterfowl and upland bird hunting don't quite have the money to just go and buy a different gun for each one you know what i mean so im looking for a good gun not too too expensive im hoping you guys can help me out thanks
November 24, 2008, 07:25 PM
Remi 870 or Mossberg 500...with an extra barrel and choke tubes you can easily do everything you want for a couple hundred bucks!
November 24, 2008, 07:48 PM
If you want max payload make sure you have 3.5 inch capability but I personally don't need that... if I had a ton of money to blow I would sure add some magnum shotguns to my closet.
I am a mossberg man. 500 is the 2 3/4 & 3 inch and if you want 3.5 inch than it would be 535 or 835... to be a pump.
November 24, 2008, 08:12 PM
A 12ga is by far the most versatile - you can go with light loads in 7/8 oz and its the same balistically as a 20ga / and light recoil. You can shoot 2 3/4" or 3" shells in a gun chambered for 3" - but to shoot 3 1/2" shells ( magnums ) you need a gun chambered in 3 1/2".
Around $ 500 new a good pump gun ( 3" chamber is plenty probably) - Rem 870 is popular, 870 Wingmaster is a nice gun, Browning BPS, Benelli Nova, etc. Personally, I think a 28" barrel is the most versatile - and make sure it has screw in changeable chokes. Browning BPS is my favorite.
If you want a semi-auto - you're into the $1,000 price range on average / but guns depending on model are $ 900 - $2,000 / Beretta, Browning, Benelli, Remington, etc. all make good guns/ Personally I like the Benelli - they have an inertia system / most of the others are gas operated (gas is from combustion of shells as they fire) that operates the action ( and they shoot a little dirtier, and I think cycle slower) - but gas operated guns are very popular / they absorb recoil. There are a lof of good used semi-autos on the market right now / very good buys / get a friend that knows shotguns to help you look them over / go to a good used dealer you can trust - you'll find good used semi-autos $ 700 - $1,500 depending on model.
Stay out of the Over / Unders - good ones are $ 2,000 plus - and you don't need one for a first gun.
There are less expensive O/U's - but I can't recommend them.
November 24, 2008, 08:24 PM
870 or 11-87
3 inch chamber.
November 24, 2008, 08:52 PM
Mossberg 500 or Remington 870. Whichever you pick up and like more.
Really smart people like the mossberg 500 persuader Marinecote.
November 24, 2008, 09:27 PM
are you looking to shoot shot and slugs/sabots for deer or shot only?
if shot only thats fine. beings how you are in NJ,you must have adjustable sights or a scope on the shotgun if using slugs/sabots. i would go with a pump action in 12 gauge,3" capable 20" or 21" for turkey and a longer 26"-30" for waterfowl and upland birds vent rib barrel that uses choke tubes. if you are going to use slugs/sabots you may need another barrel, cantilever type or open sights unless you put a scope on the shotgun.
if you go with the remington buy the turkey model,finding the shorter vent rib barrel later is gonna cost alot, like $175.00, was the cheapest i found.
i'm not sure what mossberg and winchester have to offer.
test fire different loads at different ranges and see what load/choke combo does the best.
November 24, 2008, 09:36 PM
"Stay out of the Over / Unders - good ones are $ 2,000 plus - and you don't need one for a first gun."
I'll vouch for that. I've got a pair of SxS shotguns, and they weren't cheap. Nothing for a beginner.
Mossy 500 or Remmy 870 is your best bet. Both good quality and affordable. If I had one, I'd be tempted to mount a PolyChoke on it. That would be the "Swiss army knife" of shotguns. Dial-in however much/little choke you want.
Good luck on your quest. :)
November 24, 2008, 09:59 PM
Mossberg 500. Buy a hunting barrel and a 18.5" Home Defense barrel and you are ready for anything that comes up. I have a Mossy 500, a Mossy 835 and a Maverick 88 (Lower Priced 500) but you can do it with just the 500.
December 1, 2008, 01:49 AM
A Remington 870 or Mossberg 500.
You can buy a barrel to use for turkey/deer(20"-24", and one for waterfowl/upland bird hunting(28"). Swaping barrels takes 30 seconds, and you can have whatever combination you prefer for about $500.
December 1, 2008, 07:12 AM
Second choice, 870.
Third choice, 500.
December 1, 2008, 12:02 PM
Mossberg 500 u can get the slug barrel and modified combo for around 300.00 and if u want any other capabilities get the screw in choke tubes
December 1, 2008, 12:28 PM
Don't be shy about tracking down a used Winchester 1200 or 1300 - a basic pump very reliable and comparable to the Remington 870.
My research shows that a used 1200/1300 can usually be had for a little less that a comparable 870. I guess because of lack of lore about the 1200/1300.
Many people think of this gun as LEO or tactical arms, but they have been made for many years in hunting configuration.
December 1, 2008, 03:07 PM
would also look at a mossberg 500 in field/deer combo should have a barrel to fit both your needs one with screw in chokes the other a rifled slug barrel will accept up to 3 inch shells you can also get the same combo for their 930 auto but your also approaching the point in price where you could just buy 2 used guns to begin with, and have a deer rifle and a shotgun while a pump works ok and is fine for turkey or deer but you may find yourself wanting an auto if you do much waterfowl and upland bird hunting.
December 10, 2008, 06:23 PM
thanks for all the help you guys i think im going to go with the mossberg 500 thanks
December 10, 2008, 10:21 PM
my 870 can do anything and works great http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324551
mossy's can do about the same from what i hear.
December 10, 2008, 10:44 PM
go with a remington 870. all around great gun. there's different versions, but a synthetic express will run you about $250 since most of 'em are on sale. You might find a store specific package with an extra barrel with some browsing. With the 870, the more you spend, the more smooth and somewhat better made they will be, theoretically. The wingmasters are better than the express, and i forget all the others, but a synthetic express will be great.
You could move to a mossberg 500 if you wanted to, but i'm a remington man.
I'd go 12ga with just the "standard" 3" chamber. The other guys will tell you about specific barrels and chokes you will need for different things.
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