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johnwilliamson062
November 17, 2008, 09:38 PM
Got a cylinder in the mail today. Installed it. Weapon will not cycle. On pull of the trigger hammer comes halfway back, cylinder rotates then hammer gets sstck. Can not single action fire the pistol as the hammer gets stuck at the same spot. Cylinder does not go forward, so the gap is massive. Did I install it wrong? Do the replacement cylinders make it DA only? I am not sure the hammer goes back far enough it would ignite the primer when it is released.
Really the trigger just gets caught at the point it needs to push the cylinder forward then if I release the trigger the hammer resettles on a new cartridge. If I pull the cylinder slightly while pulling the trigger the firearm functions correctly.

I almost bought 5 of the cylinders as I plan to buy 4 more of the pistols for suppressor projects. Sure glad I did not. Also glad I did not purchase the pistols as Nagant is too expensive to shoot.

greywalker
November 18, 2008, 12:54 AM
the nagant .32 cylinder may take a bit of modification to make it work right- check around online, there are a lot of step by step guides- as to cost, outside of shooting the acp, hotshot nagant ammo is not as bad, about .50 a shot- not great, but not as bad as the older stuff....

TEDDY
November 18, 2008, 07:44 PM
you can make nagant from 32/20 cases.would be cheaper than cylinder.

noelf2
November 18, 2008, 08:43 PM
I have 2 nagants and I bought one 32 acp cylinder. It fits and functions in one of them (a 1938 Tula) with no modification needed, but does the same thing as yours in my other nagant (a 1940 Tula). Personally, I don't even care for the 32acp cylinder as it is nowhere near as accurate as shooting 32 swl, and neither acp or swl are as accurate as actual nagant ammo. If I could get my money back for the 32 acp cylinder, I'd dump it.

saands
November 18, 2008, 08:59 PM
+1 on the 32/20 based reloads ... EASY, EASY, EASY and they shoot just fine.

Saands

noelf2
November 19, 2008, 09:25 AM
After thought to my post. I'm a bit confused as to why you would want 32acp cylinders for a suppressor project. Suppression would work better with the gas seal nagant ammo in the original cylinders.

Nagant ammo is expensive to shoot, but you could get 10 boxes of it for less than the cost of 5 32acp cylinders. 500 rounds is a good bit of ammo for a suppressor project. Just a thought.

johnwilliamson062
November 21, 2008, 10:59 AM
I know the suppressors will not function without 7.62 Nagant ammunition. Most of the time I would be shooting it without them. This is really just a novelty project that makes no sense financially. Not sure if I would buy cylinders for all 5 guns. maybe just one or two. Before this problem I did not know the cylinders were all custom fitted to each frame when produced. I assumed each cylinder could be interchanged without problems.

Wildalaska
November 21, 2008, 11:32 AM
You can get real Nagant ammo almost as cheap as .32 acp

WildandthenreloadthatAlaska TM

Tamara
November 21, 2008, 11:20 PM
My .32ACP cylinder worked fine in my '41 Nagant. I gave it to my roommate, but I don't know if she's tried it in hers yet.

As others have said, it would seem to defeat the purpose of the suppressor project...

johnwilliamson062
November 22, 2008, 12:40 AM
I can get 32 acp at walmart for a little over a quarter a rod. Haven't found Nagant for near that.

I realize suppressors need the original cylinder. Nagant ammo is not a whole lot more expensive, but it will really start to get expensive soon, it is all imported. The things are fun to shoot and with cylinder are only $150. There is a dealer who is going to sell me a few pre-fitted.

ED21
November 22, 2008, 11:58 AM
Let me first say I know nothing about these revolvers. Only what I have read here and there. Pretty interesting. I read that one can shoot 32 long. Can one shoot 32 short or even the .327 mag? Just wondering here. Thanks.

noelf2
November 22, 2008, 05:36 PM
Will shoot 32 s&w, 32 s&w long, and from what I understand a lot of folks shoot 32 h&r magnum (although I wouldn't try it). The 32 s&w and long cases will bulge and split so you won't be able to reload them. Seems to be really involved to reload the nagant ammo. I'm considering rechambering my 32acp cylinder to 32 s&w long because I already reload that caliber for another revolver. I will be able to keep using the brass with the nagant instead of ruining it.

johnwilliamson062
November 22, 2008, 08:49 PM
the lee dies for the nagant ammo are $160
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=842280&t=11082005

I seem to be the only one who likes these revolvers. I think they are great. You can't buy a better plinking revolver for $300.
At $80 it is easy to justify the cylinder or whatever.

Tamara
November 23, 2008, 07:53 AM
I seem to be the only one who likes these revolvers.

Compared to Wildalaska (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254935&highlight=nagant), you don't like Nagants at all...

johnwilliamson062
November 23, 2008, 10:19 AM
I always knew there was a good reason for me liking WA so much, we are the only ones who have good taste.

Wildalaska
November 23, 2008, 12:26 PM
I see my Russian avatar has been invoked by the krasivii Tamia....

Nagants are my hobby. One must be not right in ones head to indulge in it.

Thou shall not screw with .32acp, it is an unclean and an abomination. Thou must create ones own loads with 30 carbine dies, viz, wotwot
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259156&highlight=reloading+nagant

Go ye and create. Place oneself in the midset. Eat potatos, raw. Drink samogen. Smoke Belomors. Screech "KobaKobaKoba" while dragging yourself down a polished hall. Wear leather trenchcoats and slurp tea with a sugar cube in your teeth. Bellow slogans while target practicing such as "Take that you viper" or "Down with the left Trotskyite deviationists"

WilditsthatrootsgigdespitethepersecutionAlaska TM

johnwilliamson062
November 23, 2008, 05:19 PM
I can tell my life is all down hill from here...

johnwilliamson062
November 23, 2008, 07:04 PM
Maybe I should quit my job as an insurance agent and move to Alaska to be a gunsmith...
I often think if i had realized people made a living at being a gunsmith when I was in HS I would have tried to go that route. No one ever told me...

UpandAtIt
March 16, 2010, 07:35 AM
I use the 32-20 and resize and reload. The 32acp cyl I got from J&G worked fine, just took away from the mystic of the Naggy. I am in the process of making "Man Grips" for mine, those little mismatched and mis-fitted grips are just too small for me.

All in all, best $100 I have spent for a pistol that actually works. I am not so sure the cost of the acp cyl was a good idea but at least I can find 32acp even at walmart. The 32-20's componets are becoming rarer and costlier. The dies I have were from the UK and work just fine in my Lyman press, the dies only cost me $27 for the forming and then $32 for the full set of reloading dies.

Never thought of using .30 cal carbine brass, I will have to look into that. That could be the final hurdle and answer to the Naggy ammo issues.

WA, what is your process for using 30 cal carbine brass ? What tools etc ?
What powder, bullet do you use?

olyinaz
March 16, 2010, 08:42 PM
You can't buy a better plinking revolver for $300.

Well that's a highly subjective statement but I want one nonetheless.

Oly