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mike6975
August 19, 2008, 08:45 PM
found this article for preventing foul up on the remmies.see what it looks like and reply.


mike



http://www.thewilkinsons.karoo.net/bwss/info/antifoul.htm

Hawg
August 19, 2008, 09:15 PM
If he's not getting but 6 shots before fouling sets in he's not doing something right to start with. I get at least 18 shots before either one of my 58's start to feel draggy and I use 35 grs. of powder in my .44's. I've seen pics of that mod done on a Colt before. They say it works. I'm not real antsy to try it. Mine don't bother me as they are. Seems to me if you're in that big of a hurry to use up your powder and lead then maybe bp isn't for you. From some of the other mods you've brought up I really don't think it is.

mike6975
August 19, 2008, 09:25 PM
hey hawg whats with the harshness?,yes bp is for me,and if you read my posts and do a google or look in bp mags what i'm askin isn't out of this world someone else has thought of themselves,hell it's on other forums.you might like to keep your bp "pure" as the driven snow,but whats wrong with someone asking about other "mods" for there gun?

mike

long rider
August 19, 2008, 10:26 PM
HEY mike i will answer to your post pard, hey dont
feel bad, i sometimes think guys on this bp forum
criticize, but i am sure its not intent to demean you:rolleyes:
but back to your post , thats looks like a good idear
but like HH said you should get a lot more shots than
just a cylinder full, i can get a whole butt load with
the home made lube of mine. But you come up with a good
post there pard i like it, its got me thinking about trying
something, i have got this old brass frame 58 that someone
give me years ago its just a frame, so i do not care if
it does not come out right i am going to try it.
thanks for the post.:D

Smokin_Gun
August 19, 2008, 11:03 PM
Hey Mike good info to put out there. I've heard of the Bushing and ran across
somebody up on CAS I think doing a bushing, and also a Rem mainspring replacement with either an ROA or one simular to it coil spring conversion. I'll try to find it to show you.
I probly won't do the bushing thing as it would be against my Tradisionalist Rev grains:D:D:D Besides that I shoot my Rems or Colts all day with out cleanin' um and they don't freeze up. PM me if you wanna know more, you seem ok or I wouldn't tell ya ta hit my door knocker. It's called Lube Pills a friend of mine's Wife Junkyard Dog sells um. Contact Rifle on this site.
I make my own recipe as I said he's a good friend of mine and we compare notes. They keep the, fouling soft, barrel cleaner, cylinder turnin', seals chambers, increase accuracy, cleanup is easier. Goes on top of BP ball goes on top of Lube Pill.

Raider2000
August 20, 2008, 04:10 AM
Looks like a decent idea, sortof like how Ruger does their Cylinder & frames on their Old Armies, but like HH & the others I can usually get areound 18 shots before mine gets a little sluggish any ways & I too like the traditional look of my Remmys.

pohill
August 20, 2008, 07:17 AM
I wonder why Remington didn't put grooves in the cylinder pins like Colt did. Maybe because the Remington pins aren't as thick. I think that would take care of some of the fouling on the pin.
Recently I started using the vegetable spray PAM on the pins on my Remingtons and my Paterson, guns that foul quickly. Works great for me.
The lube pills by Junk Yard Dog that Smokin' Gun mentioned also work great.
Oops...just saw that Mike mentioned the grooved pins earlier.

prm
August 20, 2008, 07:33 AM
The bushing/gas ring was added during the black powder cartridge era to revolvers to solve the blowback residue problem. One of the problems with the new Schofield repros is that when they stretched the cylinders to handle longer cartridges, they did not have room for the gas ring. These guns have the same problems handling black powder cartridges as C&B revolvers. The blowback of residue builds up and starts to bind them after a few cylinders.

pohill
August 20, 2008, 08:02 AM
SG has seen these pics alot...hehe
This is a Savage & North Navy .36 caliber made in approx. 1860. It has a lever ring under the trigger. Pull the lever/ring back and the cylinder rotates and moves backwards (the hammer is also cocked). Release the ring and the cylinder moves forward up against the forcing cone of the barrel, forming a tight gas seal.
In the first pic the ring is pulled back - notice the gap between the cylinder and the forcing cone of the barrel.
In the second pic the ring is released and the cylinder is snug against the forcing cone. This prevents fouling and blowback.
http://i37.tinypic.com/10ct47n.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/15rhc1y.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/4l0f7t.jpg

Erich
August 20, 2008, 09:18 AM
Cooler than a fan! :cool:

Thanks for posting the pix!

mike6975
August 20, 2008, 10:08 AM
i'm guessin he was just in a bad mood,i like hawg,and then sudddenly he comes out in left field with his replies.all of your ideas are greatly appreciated,and im not tryin to change a good thing im just throwin ideas out there for improvements or solution or problems,i never said YOU had to do this or it must me done, i was just asking or throwing an idea out there to see if anyone had knew about it or done it themselves and to share there experiences.once again thank you for your warm replies and helpful info.


mike

Smokin_Gun
August 20, 2008, 11:33 AM
SG has seen these pics alot...hehe


Pohill the more I see of them Pics the more I wish I had one.:eek: Did I say that...HeeHeeHee!

SG:cool:

sundance44s
August 20, 2008, 01:28 PM
I was just thinking the same thing Smokin ...Dave is gonna keep on untill we all want one .:D

Hawg
August 20, 2008, 07:34 PM
My apologies. I didn't mean to come off sounding that way. Just started a new job and it's rough on these old bones.

long rider
August 20, 2008, 08:13 PM
HH, Rough on these old eh?
Well i have got a cure for that:rolleyes: try my
lube, beeswax and crisco it works wonders on about
ervrything.:eek::D

Hawg
August 20, 2008, 08:20 PM
I can just see me asking my wife to give me a beeswax and crisco rubdown.:rolleyes::D:D