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othermarc
September 2, 1999, 04:24 PM
I was wondering if you ever considered putting the TFL Logo, links, and other things on the top of every page into a separate frame. There's a lot of things that frames could be useful for here, including a list of forum topics so that we could hop between topics.

I know some people just don't like frames, or don't want to use them for those with "lesser" browsers, so I promise Iwon't be hurt if you don't like my idea ;)

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Rich Lucibella
September 2, 1999, 07:24 PM
I know nothing of the benefit of "frames". Email me, please.
Rich

spark@onestopknifeshop.com
September 2, 1999, 08:10 PM
Anything that can be done with frames, can be done better without them.

In other words, frames suck.

Spark

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othermarc
September 3, 1999, 11:42 AM
Spark,
What don't you like about frames? And how can their effects be duplicated without using them? Please share, I always want to improve my website.

Marc

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I hate laws that make me a criminal without me even knowing it.
Connecticut is the "Constitution" State
http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/beefclub

spark@onestopknifeshop.com
September 3, 1999, 06:58 PM
Frames are bad for a number of reasons. They make it more difficult to maintain your site, they take up precious real estate on your monitor, etc etc etc.

An example of how not to use frames can be seen on Benchmade's site, http://www.benchmade.com

On larger resolution settings, great portions of the screen is taken up needlessly by the frames.

If you don't link to other sites properly, you wind up "framing" them as well. I had this happen to me, someone was framing a site I built and claiming the content as their own, essentially stealing my hard work. Not cool.

There's plenty of pages out there that will tell you why frames suck: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html

Spark

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George Hill
September 3, 1999, 08:29 PM
I agree with Spark here... BIG TIME.
Frames even well done Frames are second place to a well done Frameless site.

Rich, Please... Dont even THINK of going frames...

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othermarc
September 4, 1999, 12:14 PM
I stand corrected :o Perhaps I will even change my site. I didn't realize that 10% of web surfers can't view frames.

[This message has been edited by othermarc (edited September 04, 1999).]

Rich Lucibella
September 4, 1999, 01:09 PM
marc-
Sorry I had you go to the trouble of emailing me...and thanks. Obviously, given the responses here, frames are not on the agenda.
Rich

othermarc
September 5, 1999, 10:47 AM
no trouble, Rich. now, if it comes up again, you'll know. No harm done, just a small bruise on my web creating ego.

El Chimango Pete
September 5, 1999, 05:32 PM
Good, no pframes :)
Pframes are pfui :(