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da.kahuna
June 26, 2008, 10:58 AM
Looking for advice as how can I find a good gunsmith for repair or where can I buy a new bolt for my old 410ga Shotgun.

I tried to ID this gun, It has no name or brand on the gun.
The best I could do is compair it to a 410 in a Sears n Boebuck catalogue.
I think its about 1920 or 30 vintage.

The bolt has the right retracter pin broken on the bolt. If I cant find a working bolt for it I could take the broken pin out of the bolt and fabricate a new pin. This is not what I what I want to do but would like to put this gun back into service.

Any thought from the old timers, or anyone ?

Marooned on an Island (Middle Pacific)

Da Kahuna

45_Shooter
June 26, 2008, 12:25 PM
If you can't identify the gun, it's pretty much hopeless. If you can post a picture maybe somebody can identify it for you. With used single shot .410's going for under $100 though, it's probably cheaper and easier to just buy another one.

da.kahuna
June 27, 2008, 12:54 AM
Thanks for the advice.
After re-examining the gun I found the name. It is a RANGER 101.12
I'll look it up on the internet.;)

Attached is a picture of it. This was my first gun that I learned to shoot with.
It is a fine shotgun for any beginner.
See the PDF picture of it. :)

olddrum1
June 27, 2008, 01:15 AM
http://www.e-gunparts.com/crossref.asp

You might try this site.

jrothWA
June 28, 2008, 12:29 AM
usually standard pin over the counter.
try locating a tool & die shop by you and ask if there is a supplier of harden steel pins, or an industrial supply house like the Production Tool supply, Inc.

Some automotive have small stock of pins also.

What state?

mikenbarb
June 28, 2008, 09:51 AM
Its a Sears gun and I think it may have been made by Savage, Mossberg or Winchester. OldDrum1 gave you a good place to look for parts.

roy reali
June 28, 2008, 10:39 AM
I don't believe a 410 gauge shotgun was ever made. .410 refers to the bore diameter. Gauge is another type of measurement. An actual 410 gauge shotgun would be useful for dragonflies and close range hummingbirds.

I know this is trivial. But when I hear or see the term 410 gauge it drives me nuts. Its my problem, I know.

Hawg
June 28, 2008, 10:53 AM
It's made by Savage. That's a common problem with them. The right extractor is broken on mine too, never got around to fixing it. Numrich has the parts. www.e-gunparts.com

mikenbarb
June 28, 2008, 02:14 PM
Roy, What about a 12 GAUGE or a 20 GAUGE??

roy reali
June 28, 2008, 04:04 PM
A 12 gauge is a gun in which 12 lead ballls the diameter of the bore equals one pound. It takes 12, 12 gauge lead ball to make one pound, it takes 20, 20 gauge lead balls to make a pound. You can see that makes the 20 gauge smaller. Now imagine a shotgun in which it took 410 lead balls to add up to one pound. As I said, it would be one usleless firearm.

A 410 bore shotgun's actual gauge is 68. It takes 68 lead balls of that diameter to make one pound. They used to make a 9mm rimfire shotgun. Its gauge was 105. A 6mm diameter shotshell would be a 353 gauge. My point is that 410 gauges don't exist.

As to why 410's use a different measurement system then the other shotguns, I don't know. Maybe 410 sounds more impressive then 68 gauge.

I know many folks add the word gauge to 410. I know what they really mean. Like I said, it is my problem.

mikenbarb
June 28, 2008, 06:49 PM
We have always called them 410 bore here but I sometimes slip and use gauge instead.:)