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SPUSCG
April 3, 2008, 04:36 PM
im new to hunting, and dont know much aout it. i'm wondering how close you can get to a cyote for a shot, and if ill need a rifle or are slugs okay?

Art Eatman
April 3, 2008, 09:18 PM
Generally, to be close to Ol' Wily, you either put out some sort of bait, or you use a call. A call can be either mouth-blown or electronic. If you're moving around, it's pretty much only in open country that you might see a coyote before he sees or hears you. In thicker brush or woods, the odds are all on his side.

If you're proficient, a shotgun with slugs works to maybe a hundred yards. Closer in, it depends in part on the choke, but #2 on up to 00 will do. Over that, a rifle. It doesn't take much; the average coyote is somewhere in the range of maybe 25 or thirty pounds on up to rarely much above 40 or 45.

oneSoneK
April 3, 2008, 09:39 PM
In the past my brother and I have had ranches pay us to remove cyotes, the best way iv found is a dying rabbit call and a .223 the only time iv used a shotgun is in close situations when you see them trust me they have seen you for the last 10 min. If you do get one in sight move very slow and always stay low quiet and ready to fire. they dont get to close so when you see them you only have a few seconds befor they see its a call not dinner.. good luck its fun but a challenge:D

ELMOUSMC
April 3, 2008, 09:45 PM
First you kill him/her then you walk up and make sure he/she is dead.Seriously go to WWW.Varmintal.com and everything you need to know is right there on his web site Good luck and good shooting ELMOUSMC

W. C. Quantrill
April 4, 2008, 04:50 PM
I use a mouth call. Depending upon the state of your nerves and your ability to control your pucker string, it is possible to call coyotes in to where they literally run over you. I have killed two that I actually touched with the gun barrel. For years I called and shot them with a .22 pistol.

I find the fun in getting them in close. I have a couple buddies that want to shoot them at 200 yards. It is up to you and as to your abilities and control of your nervous system. I think that long shots are just coyote killing.

Keep in mind that during the spring of the year that animals are breeding and birthing the young. If you go out and kill animals in the spring, you stand an even chance of leaving a litter of young to starve to death. I do not call coyotes until October. At that time of the year, there are no young, and the furs should be priming, and the fur price could bring you $50 per coyote.

lt dan
April 7, 2008, 02:33 PM
spfb, if i lived in the usa i would go for a semi-auto such as a mini 14 or a ar15.scope it if you can. and start calling them. over here if we call them by night from a pick-up,they some times arive in numbers. therefore the semi-auto.i have been watching american coyote hunting clips on you tube and i am amazed at the similarities between your coyotes and african jackals. do this at first with someone with experience. not only will you enjoy this but you will be doing the farmers a favour.

ELMOUSMC
April 7, 2008, 04:32 PM
Got a coyote this afternoon with a squeeky toy,My grandson(5 months old) has a favorite toy it is a rubber hammer with a squeeker in it.I noticed that when he was pounding on his car seat that my dogs went nuts trying to find where the sound came from:confused:So I figured if the dogs reacted to it maybe the song dogs would too.I had to give it a try it worked great.I set up on a ridge looking down a series of gulleys.I had to squeeze really hard to get the same sound that set off my dogs.It took about 10 squeals and a young bitch came in a bee line up 1 of the cuts I was watching at about 80 yds she stopped to get her bearings and I dropped her with a 40 gr hornet just under her right ear.I don't know if it will work for every one but it sure worked for me just thought I would pass it along good luck and good shooting ELMOUSMC

SPUSCG
April 7, 2008, 08:43 PM
maine only allows four rounds in a gun so no ruger for hunting

Mainah
April 8, 2008, 06:20 PM
It doesn't take much; the average coyote is somewhere in the range of maybe 25 or thirty pounds on up to rarely much above 40 or 45.

Okay Art, I guess there's one thing that's bigger and better in Maine than Texas. Our coyotes top out at over sixty pounds, I've seen a couple that could of passed for huskies.

gunmn74
April 8, 2008, 10:57 PM
I grew up hunting yotes in eastern Colorado. I have quite a collection of
calls. I usually go in the morning and just drop over the crest of a hill
with sun at my back and start calling. I like a .22-250 for yote hunting
and I always have a squeaky cat toy hanging from a string off my barrel.
Yotes lock in on the location of the call and usually stop and look from
about a hundred yards. When I spot them I call some more and they
usually come running on a string and you hit the squeaker to stop them
when they get to about 30 yards, sometimes they have run buy me.
If you cant convince them to come in 100-200 yards is easy work for a
.22-250.

Loaded4yote
April 9, 2008, 04:04 PM
Okay Art, I guess there's one thing that's bigger and better in Maine than Texas. Our coyotes top out at over sixty pounds, I've seen a couple that could of passed for huskies.

Of course. Down in Texas the yotes eat dirt and scrawny jackalopes. Not much nutrition to be had. :D

SPUSCG
April 9, 2008, 04:46 PM
and only noobs hunt with rugers/ars

Loaded4yote
April 9, 2008, 04:59 PM
and only noobs hunt with rugers/ars

Ouch.


I sometimes carry my .22-250 and a single shot 12 ga. depending on the terrain. For a thick wooded area where im limited to 50 to 60 yards i'll pack the shotgun. Depending on the load you choose for the shotgun and the choke you can take coyotes up to 50 yards maybe more.

SPUSCG
April 9, 2008, 05:00 PM
slugs, buckshot, i dont know which would be better, especially if i buy a slug barrell

Loaded4yote
April 9, 2008, 05:09 PM
If it's legal in Maine and I were hunting there I would use the buckshot. Probably the smallest shot legal. But then i'm also of the mind to keep the pelt. I use #6 steel shot in mine.

There are several shotgun manufactuers out there that boast 100 to 150 yards, maybe more, out of a rifled slug barrel. Don't think it would be wise use buckshot in a rifled barrel though. I've never owned a rifled slug gun so I'll not be much help in that area.

Yellowfin
April 9, 2008, 06:58 PM
I'd say go with a .223 or .243, or maybe a .30-30 if you're buying a new rifle from scratch. Most of the deliberate hunting I've known is done over gut piles, and most of the coyotes I've seen shot are as a by product of deer hunting. Meat scraps, spoiled stuff, recently dead livestock, etc. are hardly in short supply.

SPUSCG
April 9, 2008, 07:26 PM
im buying probably an 870 for hd and turkey hunting, so id like to know the best way to use it on a cyote

Loaded4yote
April 9, 2008, 07:44 PM
Hevi Shot Dead Coyote in either T shot or 00 buckshot.


One question though. Why no hunting on Sunday in Maine?

SPUSCG
April 10, 2008, 10:43 AM
no idea it used to be illegal to sell liquor on sundays but law is changed to only sales after 9am

SPUSCG
April 10, 2008, 10:44 AM
hunting may be another old religious based law, too

Loaded4yote
April 10, 2008, 04:00 PM
Not sure, I hopped over to the Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife and looked up the hunting regulations. Couldn't find anything about ammuniton type/size. But did read that on Sundays you may not hunt or possess a firearm that is in a case that completely covers it or in at least 2 pieces rendering it unable to fire. Goes on to say that a clip, magazine, or cylinder are not counted as part of the firearm. So basicly you have to disassemble your firearm if you have it with you even if you're on the way to the range.


Thought it rather odd. But then I'm sure some of the laws here are strange to others.

SPUSCG
April 10, 2008, 07:35 PM
maines an open carry state, you can carry a pistiol or go to the range anyday of the week

john1911
April 10, 2008, 09:27 PM
and only noobs hunt with rugers/ars

Care to clarify?

predator86
April 11, 2008, 04:24 AM
i called one in to 15 feet and took him with a dble lung pass through with my bow......that was fun, took one at 180 yards last weekend with my .270, sly little bastard wouldnt come in any closer than that....

Art Eatman
April 11, 2008, 08:58 AM
Hey, I'm a noob! I've actually used a Mini-14 on coyotes and jackrabbits! Whee! Oh: How do you stay a noob for some twenty years? :D

First shot from a cold barrel, a Mini will do as good as most any rifle you'll ever own. It'll hit the same place today as it did last week. And that's all any hunter needs a rifle to do...

Come to think of it, I've never shot a five-shot group at a coyote. :)

Art

SPUSCG
April 11, 2008, 02:54 PM
well an ar-15 or ruger mini are not meant for the woods.

Loaded4yote
April 11, 2008, 04:09 PM
My AR-15 is meant for the woods.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Tolumsay/IMGP4354.jpg

Saying an AR-15 or Mini 14 isn't meant for the woods is the exact same thing as saying a Over and Under shotgun isn't meant for bird hunting. Even though some people don't use them to hunt or they are of the opinion that a specific firearm should only be used for specific purposes is a tad narrow minded.

We are all gun owners, be it hunting, trap, skeet, professionals, or hobbyist. We shouldn't single out any type of firearm simply because it's different or portrayed as evil by someone. Alienating one group simply because they prefer to use a specific firearm be it pistol, rifle, or shotgun will basically be saying " Hey we recognize this gun is different, thats why should only used for such and such tasks" If we, gun owners, start separating our firearms then it will be just as easy for those who have not so nice intentions toward us to do it as well. You might say it's a military rifle. So was the muzzle-loader, bolt action, several shotguns that were used by the military through out the years. Times change and so do the firearms. We need to stick together on this one to help keep our rights intact.

maine only allows four rounds in a gun so no ruger for hunting

The following was taken from page 28 of the 2007-2008 Maine Hunting and Trapping Laws and Rules PDF which can be found at the link below.
http://www.state.me.us/ifw/laws_rules/hunting_trapping/hunt_traplaws.htm

4. Auto-loading fi rearm (a fi rearm which
reloads itself after each shot and requires
a separate trigger pull for each shot). It
is unlawful to hunt with or possess for
hunting any auto-loading fi rearm which
has a magazine capacity of more than 5
cartridges*, unless the magazine has been
permanently altered to contain not more
than 5 cartridges. (Note: This provision
does not apply to .22 caliber rimfi re guns or
to auto-loading pistols with barrel lengths of
less than 8 inches). *Plus 1 in the chamber
for a total of 6.

john1911
April 11, 2008, 08:16 PM
well an ar-15 or ruger mini are not meant for the woods.

Why not?

SPUSCG
April 11, 2008, 08:34 PM
a .223 may down a cyote but then deer, on the other hand, it may not, especially with the four round limit, and i dont want to look paramilitary when hunting

Mainah
April 11, 2008, 10:03 PM
One question though. Why no hunting on Sunday in Maine?

I suppose that this reg began as a blue law, but since then it's been used to placate non-hunters. And to be honest it's fine with me. I kind of appreciate a day in the fall when I don't have to wear blaze orange while I'm raking leaves or taking down brush.

Spfb, I hate to disagree with a fellow Mainer, but plenty of people hunt with Rugers and AR's. Don't forget our good friends at Bushmaster, they make fine hunting rifles.

Art Eatman
April 12, 2008, 06:20 AM
Probably oughta stick with coyotes...

:), Art

SPUSCG
April 12, 2008, 09:28 AM
i may buy a bushmaster, someday, maybe even at the end of this year (im looking at election results) how much does a .223 ar cost? my first hunting guns are going to be prbably an 870, and a 30-30

lt dan
April 12, 2008, 09:38 AM
cant we start a new thread with coyote calling as a title? i went jackal calling since your post about toys? been caling them, with the toys, they answer but they dont come closer. i think the pitch is to high. i saw a bat eared fox. killing range but we dont shoot them. there is a cattle calf bleeding for some reason not 25m from where i called. i will return tonight to see if the devils dont go for the calf. how often do you call on the same farm/place, we beleive that you must give 30 days before you call again on the same farm. research has shown that they can travel 22km a night. the jacals/coyote are a pest over here. the farm i am hunting on lost a stud bull of about a ton to jacal due to the fact that he was sick and layed down. i will take any sugestions as advice and will give feedback. thankyou sir.

Loaded4yote
April 12, 2008, 09:40 AM
The AR in the picture is a Remington R-15 w/ 22" barrel made by Bushmaster. I gave a bit over $1000 for it to find out later I could have built the thing for less :o Though it was $300 less than the same rifle with the Bushmaster name on it.

The 870 and .30-30 are both great firearms. And as many have said both should be in every hunter/shooter/collectors safe. Both are very versatile.

Art Eatman
April 12, 2008, 06:38 PM
Well, it started out about coyote hunting, anyway...