View Full Version : Wolf hunting to be legal in Northern rockies?
March 29, 2008, 04:07 PM
I did some googling on this topic after reading this article and it looks like we have another hotly contested debate here.
Living in Texas I really don't have a dog in this fight(pun intended), but It seems to me that we have either introduced or re-introduced a species that with no natural predators and full federal protection are doing quite well, thank you very much. Well enough to have made some two-legged enemies in that region.
We have one extreme, to keep them fully protected, and the other extreme, to eradicate every single one. Of course the best way to handle it would land somewhere in the middle.
I think some managed hunting will not only lower some population numbers but might also endear the species to the locals to a certain extent. At least those that enjoy hunting.
I'd love to hear from those that live in that region and get some first hand reaction to the wolf situation.
March 31, 2008, 07:05 AM
Wolves are protected by paper laws. But no one is guarding these vicious predators or intercedeing when beef or mutton is on the menu.
Shoot, Shovel, Shut Up is the rule of the West.
March 31, 2008, 08:57 AM
+1 on the SSS rule.
March 31, 2008, 11:43 AM
+27 on the SSS rule, I was once working on a tractor and up rolls a livestock truck with what looked like dogs in it (wolves) the guy (long haired, sandle wearing California looking fella:barf:) parked it on the road about 200 yds away from me and came and asked me how to get to "the nearest form of civilization". That is a direct quote, he pissed me off somethin fierce and I had the suspiscion that he was importing wolves (we had been hearing rumors, and I saw the dogs running back and forth and barking in the back of that truck) so I sent him on a wild goose chase through the county roads:D The closest "form of civilization" aside from a general store and gas station is about 50 miles North on the most direct route, I sent him down South about 70 miles into a different state (sorry Wyoming boys):D Now, I know I sound like a prick but but he was rubbing this little cowboy the wrong way, I would usually invite a lost traveler in for coffee and doughnuts and send them in the right direction. I just already have enough problems with 'yotes and lions, I don't need wolves added into the mix. <Montana Boy>
March 31, 2008, 12:03 PM
I say it's about time they let us hunt them. I don't know if I would take the extreme position of wiping them out totally, but protecting them isn't helping anyone, either. My position would be to give them big game animal status, with unlimited tags available, so the biologists could do their research and ranchers could shoot one if they feel the need, but at least tell the feds when and where.
You know, there's a reason wolves were pretty much wiped out in the past, and it's not because our ancestors were afraid of the fairy tales they heard growing up.
I saw the dogs running back and forth and barking in the back of that truckWolves don't bark.
March 31, 2008, 12:05 PM
I just meant making noise, my mistake on the wording
March 31, 2008, 12:13 PM
The wolves in Idaho are going to be managed at about a 700 population level. They know the death rate for natural causes plus predation permits and they know the birth rate. They will set a limit for the open hunts. They are simply going to stop hunting when the population approaches 700. It's tried and true method for controlling game. It'll work.
I suspect many of these wolf activist organizations won't be able to raise as much money anymore if their pet project is no longer endangered. It all comes down to money, always has, always will.
March 31, 2008, 12:15 PM
I honestly think that we are gearing up for some limited hunting here in Wyo. Did anyone see the show concerning this on the VS channel. Hour long docu-patmeontheback-mentary by the Wyo Game and Fish/Feds. They say right in the program that limited hunting will probably be necessary as they(imagine this) breed like dogs.
Unfortunately it is hard to hold a decent conversation with just about any of the Game and Fish folks out here. They, like the Feds, are so d%$# smart, it's a little bit tough to converse w/ us regular folks. Our local/district manager here in the sw corner of the state is one the most condescending people I have ever met. They kiss the rancher and out of stater's collective butts out here yet they keep raising my license fees and shovel crap my way and expect me to like it.
Yes we will be hunting wolves but it will probably come in the form of out of staters and outfitters getting the tags. You watch.
March 31, 2008, 12:57 PM
Years back when we had all the public hearings about Sam's Dog's, I made a statement to the State boys running the meeting, They were flapping about the Wolf population in Minnesota, witch the majority of the attendees didn't agree with. My statement was. "Allow the Deer Hunters to sacrifice there Buck tag, and we will give you boys something to count". I received a standing ovation for that.
Here in the forest of Northern MN, Hunting a wolf, Well lets just say "Good Luck", Not saying someone out there couldn't do it, But its a trappers game, The 24-7 that gets results. But its also a lucky day thing, wow Look'y there. and with 650,000 hunters in the forest, Well there could be some rugs made:cool:
But this animal would wizen up, and there would be fewer taken in the next years, Then someone would link that into too many taken, like what already happened when we were told the Wolf was endangered in Minnesota.:barf:
March 31, 2008, 02:27 PM
This dude is real mad at them wolves.
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