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Super-Dave
March 4, 2008, 08:38 AM
What all companies make a pump/auto loader?

Is Benneli the only company that does?

Why aren't pump/auto loaders more popular?

Too me it seems you would have the best of both worlds.

EHCRain10
March 4, 2008, 09:11 AM
There is also the SPAS-12 that i know about, i want to say that its a French design but im not 100% on that

Super-Dave
March 4, 2008, 10:02 AM
I think the spas 12 is on some kind of band list and you cannot actually buy it.

SR420
March 4, 2008, 10:11 AM
You can buy them used ... (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281919)

http://spas12.com/spas/anispas.gif

Super-Dave
March 4, 2008, 12:14 PM
For only $12,000

waterhouse
March 4, 2008, 12:23 PM
For only $12,000

SR420 posted a link where one is available for $1450. Not to long ago I had the chance to buy one for 1100, and there are a few on gunbroker now with buy it now prices ranging from 1200 to 1500.

Why aren't pump/auto loaders more popular?

I've only held one, never shot one, but it was heavy. From a non LEO standpoint I can't think of anything that is gained by having a pump-semi.

New_Pollution1086
March 4, 2008, 12:59 PM
How does that work? I've never seen one of those.

T

SR420
March 4, 2008, 01:06 PM
The Benelli M3 would be a score if you can find one.

http://members.shaw.ca/tmcveigh/Projects/GunRights/images/ben_m3t.jpg

waterhouse
March 4, 2008, 01:18 PM
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?shop=1&cart=1007411&cat=33&

CMMG has some M3s in their bargain bin right now for $900 if anyone is interested. As mentioned in the ad, they will require a few parts from Brownells.

How does that work? I've never seen one of those.

At least on the Benelli, there is a switch on the front of the forearm for either pump or semi mode. For regular shooting, semi is used. If you need to switch to using very low velocity rounds (usually some sort of bean bag or other less than lethal round) you can switch to pump since those loads won't cycle the semi action.

New_Pollution1086
March 4, 2008, 02:57 PM
thanks waterhouse. that makes sense.

T

mulletguter59
March 4, 2008, 05:12 PM
A good site about Franchi SPAS shotguns http://spas12.com/ . If you are thinking of getting one, be sure and read the Info on the safety.

Besides the cool factor (used by the Terminator and in Jurassic Park) there are a lot better SG’s for the money .

kozak6
March 5, 2008, 12:48 AM
Why aren't they more popular?

They tend to be expensive, heavy, and complex shotguns.

Also there are only 3 of them that I'm aware of, and they tend to be expensive and uncommon.

There's the Benelli M3 Super 90 as linked to above, there's the SPAS-12 which isn't even all that great of a shotgun, and there's the SPAS-15, only 180 of which have been imported if the results of a quick and dirty google search can be believed.

Most people's needs can be suited either by a pump or a semiauto, and it would usually be cheaper and easier anyways to buy a pump action and a semiauto.