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95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 01:16 AM
I've heard it can be done with a coke bottle.

I wanna try it out with my .22 anyone know how to do it? anything special to do? or just cut the bottom off and tape the neck on the barrel? lol

this should be interesting.

-James

DonR101395
February 8, 2008, 01:27 AM
Manufacturing a suppressor is illegal without an approved form1 which requires a $200 tax stamp. That sure seems like a lot of cash to lay out to shoot through a pop bottle. I know you wouldn't want to discuss doing something illegal on the net.

Wildalaska
February 8, 2008, 01:28 AM
Keep in mind that BEFORE you fire it, you should bring the gun and your homemade item down to your local ATF office for serial number assignment. Just tell em you made it yourself, they will give you some paperwork

Wildmods?Alaska TM

evan1293
February 8, 2008, 01:30 AM
Yeah, what he said :D

95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 01:36 AM
of course I don't do anything illegal, I've never taken the Mustang out street racing illegally either.

I'd like to stay out of trouble, I'm an Admin on a Land Rover site so I know how easy it is to get a IP address on Vbulletin

Only reason I'd make it is to see if it works, not like I'll leave it on there.

And if it doesn't work, I can shoot the bottle. I can try it on the Ranch, that is after I talk to the right people of course.

TexasSeaRay
February 8, 2008, 01:40 AM
This topic is not appropriate for public discussion, even moreso on a forum such as this where responsible and law-abiding gun ownership is what we stand for.

Jeff

95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 01:41 AM
that's why i posted it on here so knowledgeable people could tell me what's what

epic4444
February 8, 2008, 01:51 AM
wowwwwwww people really that anal on this website...all u do is poor out tha soda...root beer works....put tha bottle over and fire...it only works once and dont cut tha bottom...tha fumes from tha soda left inside is wat surpesses tha sound...i saw that on tv so im sure its okay to put on tha website

95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 01:54 AM
yeah i saw it on TV too, I couldn't remember everything they said or even what the show was or channel.

I can't remember if it was a 20oz, a 3Liter, or what though, do you?

Why pour out the root beer, just drink it lol, then the gun will be silent and you can burp and not be silent

ha ha

evan1293
February 8, 2008, 01:56 AM
i saw that on tv so im sure its okay to put on tha website

Well if you saw it on tv then it must me okay :rolleyes:

TexasSeaRay
February 8, 2008, 01:57 AM
Yeah, I'm that anal.

I'm also a former federal agent who saw a helluva lot of people ARRESTED and CONVICTED for the same, exact thing that the original poster is wanting to publicly discuss how to do.

Just because it is on the internet does not make it either legal or moral or ethical to do.

There are websites promoting pedophilia and bestiality. Doesn't mean it is either appropriate or legal.

These kinds of flippant attitudes work AGAINST us as law-abiding, respectful firearms owners and enthusiasts.

You wanna go experiment with such things, go learn it on your own or discuss it with your Rambo-wannabe buddies. But it is NOT appropriate on a forum devoted and maintained to promote responsible, law-abiding firearms ownership.

Jeff

95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 01:59 AM
I do remember that tv show showed how a real silencer works and it has ribs of a sort on the inside of it, probably wouldn't be hard to make but if you had to go through that much paperwork and bureaucratic bull**** it wouldn't be worth it.

however, i just wanna try it out on that .22 to see if it can be done, you think they'd have a problem with me doing it out on the ranch?

hoytinak
February 8, 2008, 02:00 AM
These kinds of flippant attitudes work AGAINST us as law-abiding, respectful firearms owners and enthusiasts.

You wanna go experiment with such things, go learn it on your own or discuss it with your Rambo-wannabe buddies. But it is NOT appropriate on a forum devoted and maintained to promote responsible, law-abiding firearms ownership.

Well said.

TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does your post make you?

--Capt Charlie

evan1293
February 8, 2008, 02:01 AM
however, i just wanna try it out on that .22 to see if it can be done, you think they'd have a problem with me doing it out on the ranch?

Of course not. Just call up the feds and let em know, they'll probably want to come out and watch. They love that sort'a stuff. :D:D:D

95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 02:01 AM
Texas Sea Ray - you saying I'm not law abiding? If I wasn't law abiding don't you think I would have bought my guns on the streets instead of Cabela's or at gun shows, or at Academy? Think about it. If I was a criminal I wouldn't post on here either.

I'm smarter than that.

Also, like I said, I posted on here to get info from knowledgeable people. And thanks to everyone and their info.

kozak6
February 8, 2008, 02:23 AM
If you were law abiding, you wouldn't publicly ask for advice on how to illegally build a device that can get you a $10,000 fine and 10 years in prison.

Edward429451
February 8, 2008, 02:24 AM
OMG what ever happend to for informational purposes only? I seen em do it on cable tv a few years back in a movie. The used ducttape to the barrel and it was resuseable since it held the bottle in place and shot through the same hole. I don't see how gas would muffle it, it's simply the expansion chamber that quieted it just like on a real supressor. It was kinda MacGyverish but looked stupid with a 2 liter bottle hangin on the end of the barrel.

I have the Paladin Press full auto conversion guide book for 10/22's and never even thought seriously about really doing such a thing, but it fun reading and cool pictures. No big deal. If they don't want people even doing harmless daydreaming about such things then maybe hollyweird shouldn't make james bond & MacGyver type movies etc..

Just don't really try it because in real life you'd get a trip to the pokey for it if anyone seen you and made the call. Not worth it.

95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 02:27 AM
yeah obviously

kozak6
February 8, 2008, 02:28 AM
OMG what ever happend to for informational purposes only?

Nothing, for when it's for informational purposes only.

Somehow, I have gotten the impression that he wants to actually build an illegal suppressor and test it out on the ranch.

evan1293
February 8, 2008, 02:29 AM
i just wanna try it out on that .22 to see if it can be done

hmmmm?

Edward429451
February 8, 2008, 02:35 AM
I'd love to have a real suppressed 10/22 or MKII. $200 bucks really isn't that much on top of the cost of the real device and once it's paid and approved, you treat it just like any other legal gun except for keeping a storage address on file with BATF. Heck, the already have my address because I used to have an FFL so what the hey? I want a real one. Mmm, no muffs...:cool:

95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 02:39 AM
I bet if you read the posts I make on my Mustang sites you'd think I wanna go street race too

I'm going to bed, night y'all!

predator86
February 8, 2008, 04:09 AM
yawn....go ahead get a bunch of plastic bottles, different sizes, different shapes, put different stuff inside to muffle sound, steel wool, shaving cream, old shirts, paper towels, duct tape, ect. ect. ect.

tape the bottle to the barrel and just expirament, why you even ask for help on something so simple i dont know why.....anyways with the results you achieve, keep them to yourself, to hell with what anyone else says, and dont ever speak of it to anyone.....

shaggy
February 8, 2008, 04:25 AM
$200 bucks really isn't that much on top of the cost of the real device and once it's paid and approved

You can buy a good .22 suppressor for about $300. I think some models by Tactical Innovations can be had for under $200. Add in another $200 for the transfer tax and you can have a quality suppressor in you hands for under $500 and be completely legal. No worries about getting caught and prosecuted for a felony, and properly maintained, it'll give you a lifetime of suppressed shooting fun. It'll also be far more effective and quiet than some illegal pop bottle silencer that will be useless after a couple shots.

Yeah, I know... $500 may still seem like a lot of money, but when you consider the ramifications of getting caught with an unregistered NFA device, its a bargain. BATFE doesn't give a hoot if you just wanted to experiment or see if it would work once - they'll be all too happy to see you charged with a felony and lose your right to ever legally vote or own a gun again.

Yellowfin
February 8, 2008, 04:36 AM
It's the law as it is. It would be nice to see equal enthusiasm for getting it reformed and/or completely rescinded as we see for loudly proclaiming it. It's utterly nauseating, but yes it's the law and we do have to comply with it if for no other reason than for the sake of avoiding being punished. There is absolutely no moral or ethical substantiation for the regulation--or 90% of others like it for that matter, so let's not talk about it like we're defending the blessed sacraments or saving the baby seals, shall we? Sure it's all about keeping everyone clean but it's not because they're robbing a bank but more like a parking ticket that arbitrarily has a 50,000x worse penalty. Seriously. We're talking sex offender treatment for glorified earplugs.

Sgt.Dusk
February 8, 2008, 04:52 AM
I think that its just easier to buy a supressor
and use that...I got one in my 10/22 and its great with subsonics.
Sound is still quite loud with faster bullets.
Because supressors/silencers are not illegal here I could actually try out that coke bottle thing. I think someone else has gotten the same idea after watching "Shooter"-movie.

predator86
February 8, 2008, 05:22 AM
dude that idea was around long before "shooter"



lets just say that i first did it when i was 9.........and now im 21, the idea has been around......

95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 08:24 AM
Had I known this thread would have blown up like it did I wouldn't have even posted it.

I'm gonna have to check out that site for a real suppressor. Even though it's gonna cost more than the gun and any of the ammo I've run through it, it'll be worth checking out anyway.

Thanks guys!

Results to never be determined as case study has no justification

-James

DBotkin
February 8, 2008, 08:29 AM
So wait... if I'm at the range and have a few empty pop bottles in the truck awaiting their turn to fulfill their ultimate destiny (being used as plinking targets), d'you think I'll end up in jail? After all, even if I'm not using one as a suppressor, I do posses the objects that could possibly be used as one. Maybe. Or maybe not? I'm so confused... :p

Personally, I've always wondered whether that trick actually works. I've never tried it, just because if I've learned anything in the last 47 years it is that even ideas that seem to make sense can have disastrously unintended consequences, so I tend not to "play" with guns in new and adventurous ways. If I did decide to try it (and I doubt I ever will), nobody would know about it.

Off topic a little, but I once got the opportunity to fire a (completely legal) suppressed full-auto .22 SMG - I think it was an American Eagle, looked kind of like a Thompson but ejected brass straight down. What a blast!!! That sucker would throw lead downrange at an amazing rate, and all you heard was the bolt cycling and the brass tinkling o the gravel. We used the rate of fire and MV of the ammo to figure the rounds were going down range about 8 feet apart.

Leif
February 8, 2008, 08:46 AM
that's why i posted it on here so knowledgeable people could tell me what's what

Then why don't you do some damn research on your own. You say that your an administrator on another VB site - surely you know how to use the search function, don't you? I mean, it's not like we don't have an entire section devoted to NFA questions. :mad:

I really wish people would stop trying to drag this place down with poorly written foolishness like this. This individual can't even be bothered with punctuation. There was a time you'd be warned on writing style alone.

95P38RR
February 8, 2008, 09:40 AM
Unsuitable language removed by moderator.

Johnny Guest
February 8, 2008, 09:42 AM
First, this discussion properly belongs on the NFA Forum of TFL. It may seem nit-picking as I'm about to close the thread, but I feel some of this might be of interest to the mambership.

Some friendly hints from your moderator - -

The local NFA forum rules were posted when we first set it up as the Full Auto Forum. That post, entitled, "Welcome" (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147681) is still floated at the top of this forum. It includes this paragraph: About the only hard and fast rule here in Full Auto forum is that, like them or not, there ARE some laws and regulations which must be followed. Please, no discussions of anything which might appear to be in violation of the law.

1. We do not plan or help others plan to violate the law - - Local ordinances, state, or federal.

2. Anyone who appears to be doing so MAY be warned, or may just have posting privileges revoked.

3. It is sometimes a judgment call on the part of a staffer, how to handle this sort of thing. On the one hand, a guy can say, "Hey, I'm gonna fix me up a home-made 7.62 Mini Gun." And we all grin and wait for the punch line. The guy's clearly not serious. Such a project requires some quite specialized knowledge, some quite specialized tools and machinery, and a degree of expertise which is rather rare outside certain industries. This doesn't even mention the expense.

Okay - - I know for a fact that there are some very talented machinists and gunsmiths on the board who MIGHT have the ability to do that kind of work, given a proper shop. And, there are several TFL members who are VERY well-to-do, and who could be termed "rich." They might afford to finance such a project, if they wanted. THEY would probably be smart enough to set up a licensed business and do it legally. Or they'd take it off shore, outside the USA. But, being that rich, they'd probably just BUY one of the few transferable mini guns.

Conversely, though, there's something like the guy who says he has an extra lawn mover muffler and figures to adapt it to fit over the muzzle of some gun, "just to quiet it down a little." Now, THAT'S something that is readily doable, requiring minimal tools or talent. It can give others to think, "Hey, I'm gonna do that, too." This is the kind of thread we shut down, or delete entirely.

So, the point is this---
To anyone who's announced their plans to manufacture a suppressor or silencer, however simple, without complying with applicable laws - -
YOU ARE HEREBY WARNED, Stop it. Any more of this type discussion will get you banned.

This thread is CLOSED.

Johnny Guest
TFL Staff
NFA Forum moderator