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mes227
February 4, 2012, 10:16 PM
What a great resource!

toddford
February 5, 2012, 03:06 PM
CDA 6568

Colonel Angus
February 5, 2012, 06:19 PM
I hope this isn't asking for too many in my first post here, and I apologize if asking about S&W autos in this subforum is verboten. ...But I'm asking if you would be kind enough to help date my 3rd gen auto roster:

Model 908: UBZ0xxx
Model 3913: TEM2xxx
Model 5904: THC6xxx
Model 5904: TYC9xxx
Model 5904: TFR9xxx
Model 4013: TVF7xxx
Model 4006: TFM7xxx
Model 410: VHN6xxx
Model 4506: TVB2xxx

Thanks so much.

laytonj1
February 5, 2012, 10:29 PM
CDA 6568
1999.


Model 908: UBZ0xxx
Model 3913: TEM2xxx
Model 5904: THC6xxx
Model 5904: TYC9xxx
Model 5904: TFR9xxx
Model 4013: TVF7xxx
Model 4006: TFM7xxx
Model 410: VHN6xxx
Model 4506: TVB2xxx
Most all from the same time period.
Model 908: UBZ0xxx = Not listed but would be 1996 or later. Call S&W customer service, they'll give the DOB over the phone for free.
Model 3913: TEM2xxx = 1989/90
Model 5904: THC6xxx = 1991
Model 5904: TYC9xxx = 1992
Model 5904: TFR9xxx = 1991
Model 4013: TVF7xxx = 1992
Model 4006: TFM7xxx = 1990
Model 410: VHN6xxx = 1998
Model 4506: TVB2xxx = 1991

Jim

Benchrest500
February 6, 2012, 12:54 AM
Hi All,

First post here, I'm a Colt guy that ended up in the wrong neighborhood,,, and acquired a S&W 10-5 4" Blue wood grips in box all papers and wrapper today and have been trying to check serial numbers which isn't an easy task.

the gun is also what I think is referred to as a pinned barrel and is in factory New condition, as in only been fired at factory (not a novice here).

I have seen info on "D" serials but this is a 3D28*** so I'm lost here and could use some help

Also it's a tapered barrel

Crane says 45814 and then below that is F21

and THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP!:)

tmWheeler
February 6, 2012, 01:29 PM
Thank you for the information on the dates of manufacture. The .38 spl. built in 1956 looks brand new, my 15 yr old grandson and 17 yr. old granddaughter and i spent yesterday afternoon learning gun safety and shooting targets and sawblades starting with the single shot .22s. Later he put a few dozen wadcutters through his great-grandma's handgun.
My father bought the M29 new, I am the fourth son, he gave it to me before he went to be with his maker. It is nothing but fun to shoot.
Again thank you for the information.

laytonj1
February 6, 2012, 06:40 PM
3D28***
1978.
Serial numbers ran from 2D80001 to 3D99999 that year.

Jim

plankton
February 6, 2012, 07:41 PM
Fellas I just picked up a S&W Model 10-6 and I'd like to know the DOB.
SN: C917XXX

Thanks!

plankton
February 6, 2012, 09:56 PM
I just searched this thread a little more thoroughly and it looks like my S&W 10-6 was born between 1966 and 1967....

This is a great thread!

Benchrest500
February 6, 2012, 11:17 PM
1978.
Serial numbers ran from 2D80001 to 3D99999 that year.

Jim


Thanks Jim!

Bought that S&W book last night online just gotta wait now,,,,

ogp
February 8, 2012, 02:29 PM
Just bought a new(to me) revolver 686-6 since it is 7 rounds does that make it a plus?
Trying to get the age of this pistol

Serial number is CJW6XXX

is that enough info or do you need more data?

thanks!

theswimmer
February 8, 2012, 06:12 PM
A model 48-4 just fell onto my bench.
# is 221K xxx.
It does not appear in my book , any ideas about dob?

laytonj1
February 8, 2012, 06:31 PM
Serial number is CJW6XXX
Book only covers to 2004. Yours is after that. You'll can call S&W's customer service and they'll give you the DOB over the phone for free.

S&W
1-800-331-0852 (USA)
Mon-Fri 8:00AM-8:00PM Eastern Time

The 7 shot is a "plus" model.

221K xxx.
1982.
SN's ran from 125K000 to 269K999 that year.

Jim

ogp
February 8, 2012, 11:00 PM
Book only covers to 2004. Yours is after that. You'll can call S&W's customer service and they'll give you the DOB over the phone for free.

S&W 1-800-331-0852 (USA) Mon-Fri 8:00AM-8:00PM Eastern Time

The 7 shot is a "plus" model.


Great! Thanks for the info.

ogp
February 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
FYI for anyone with same type of serial number

CJW6xxx
4-2006.

what is interesting to me is that the 686-7 were 2004 and after.

so my 686-6 plus is 4-2006

mrbentley57
February 9, 2012, 11:56 PM
I heard about this and thought I would give a try.
I have a SW 19-4
SN 87K3215
Can you give me DOB? Thx

theswimmer
February 10, 2012, 04:02 AM
221K xxx.

1982.
SN's ran from 125K000 to 269K999 that year.

Thank you Jim.
Which edition do you have?

JT

mrbentley57
February 10, 2012, 08:14 AM
I feel pretty ignorant. Can you help? I have the SWSC latest version. But I don't see where you get the SNs the way you do. In each model # section it gives done data TI help bracket years based on engineering changes etc. Where is the section that gives SN Ranges by model and year? Also can you give them for older models? I have a SW .32 Long Model of 1903 1st change SN 28424. Can you date this? Thx. Mike

Glen444
February 10, 2012, 06:06 PM
S&W Model 10 (four screw) Ser # 477,xxx

Can anyone help with a year of manufacture?

Thanks, G.

laytonj1
February 11, 2012, 08:48 PM
I have a SW 19-4
SN 87K3215
1980.
SN's ran from 57K0001 to 91K6800 that year.

Which edition do you have?
1st and 3rd.

I have a SW .32 Long Model of 1903 1st change SN 28424.
SN's ran from 19426 in 1904 to 51126 in 1906.

The serial numbers start on page 395. Only certain (later) models give the serial numbers by year, and even that is only approximate. The older models are only a date range. You would have to pay for a "letter" from S&W to get the ship date and other history by serial number.

Ser # 477,xxx
If there is no letter prefix with that number, then around mid 1920's.

Jim

bodydroppedgmc
February 11, 2012, 10:03 PM
I need some help with a serial number. I have a c before the serial number but its about an inch away from the numbers. Is it part of the serial number?

cliffcolvin
February 12, 2012, 03:40 PM
I am trying to age my late grandfather's pistol. It is a S&W .38 special. It has a V on it, and then separately it has 4417XX. Can anyone give me any general ideas for date range?

laytonj1
February 12, 2012, 06:59 PM
I have a c before the serial number but its about an inch away from the numbers. Is it part of the serial number?
Yes.
The "C" prefix was used from 1948 to 1967.

It has a V on it, and then separately it has 4417XX.
.38 Military & Police "Victory" models were made during WWII. Yours would be around 1943.

Jim

bodydroppedgmc
February 12, 2012, 07:09 PM
Thank you. What about c3576xx .38 model 10 I think but it doesn't say.

laytonj1
February 12, 2012, 07:23 PM
c3576xx
SN's ran from C277555 in 1954 to C402923 in 1956.
It's a 38 Military & Police which became the Model 10 when S&W began assigning/stamping model numbers ~1957.

Jim

bodydroppedgmc
February 12, 2012, 07:28 PM
Thank you very much. Do you know where I can find the book on the serial numbers?

laytonj1
February 12, 2012, 07:42 PM
Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson. Currently on it's 3rd edition it can by found in better book stores or online.

Jim

bodydroppedgmc
February 12, 2012, 08:04 PM
Thank you very much for your help

yellermelon
February 13, 2012, 09:46 AM
Hey guys I got a model 10 serial 989xxx there's a "s" before the number dunno what that's for
And it's not labeled a model 10 just what I've seen from looking them up. This one says .38 Smith and Wesson Special CTG.
Edit: I've learned it is a 1948 :) thanks!

Glen444
February 13, 2012, 01:48 PM
How about ser. #21,0xx .38 spl.? It has a four screw side plate and fixed sights. No prefix letter and no mod. # inside frame. Early 1900's???

Thanks so very much for your help.
G :D

laytonj1
February 13, 2012, 06:27 PM
How about ser. #21,0xx .38 spl.? Early 1900's???
Yes!
.38 Military & Police 2nd Model.
SN's ran from 20976 in 1902 to 33803 in 1903.

Jim

Cole Thorton
February 16, 2012, 06:08 AM
Hey guys I have a Model 36, serial number 733XXX. I want to know what year this one may have been made. I'm hoping it's a newer production so I can shoot +P through it. :D

mrbentley57
February 16, 2012, 06:40 AM
There should be a J somewhere in the SN. Are you getting from the bottom of the butt? That is where the SN is located.

Cole Thorton
February 16, 2012, 06:59 AM
Yeah I'm getting it from the bottom of the butt, it just starts with 733, but no letters in the front.

Dave Anderson
February 16, 2012, 09:42 AM
I have a Model 36, serial number 733XXX

it just starts with 733, but no letters in the front.


The first J-frame Chiefs Special, s/n 1, was made October 24, 1950.

In 1957 S&W began using model numbers. The Chiefs Special was assigned number 36 at s/n 125000.

The serial numbers reached 786544 in 1969. As the Gun Control Act of 1968 was just coming into effect S&W began a new serial number series with a "J" prefix.

Since yours has no prefix it was likely made in the late 1960s, most likely 1968.

mrbentley57
February 16, 2012, 10:57 AM
Does it say "Model 36" or Model 36-x whe you open the cylinder and look at attaching lug on the crane? If it doesn't it might be a pre model 36. How many screws does it have on the face plate? Can you send a pic? My email is mbliss57@yahoo.com
Mike

AngieC4567
February 16, 2012, 02:08 PM
I have just inherited my grandfather's S&W 22. I have no clue anything about it as my grandfather and father passed away several years ago, so no one to tell me anything. It says 22 LR CTG on the barrel. The SN on the butt is 104XXX. I have attached a pic (not great) of the gun. If anyone could help with the model and year, that would be awesome.

rdping
February 16, 2012, 06:13 PM
Ive inherited a old .38 special S&W; 4" barrel; serial #102** ; model #6029. Would appreciate it if someone could give me some history on this revolver

laytonj1
February 16, 2012, 07:38 PM
Does it say "Model 36" or Model 36-x whe you open the cylinder and look at attaching lug on the crane? If it doesn't it might be a pre model 36. How many screws does it have on the face plate?
As was explained by Dave, it dates to the late 60's and would be a 3 screw and would be model marked.

It says 22 LR CTG on the barrel. The SN on the butt is 104XXX. I have attached a pic (not great) of the gun.
I called this one wrong, thanks for the correct info Dave!
It's likely a model 34. Serial numbers ran from 101 in 1953 to 135465 in 1991 with yours made around the mid 60's.
See pic for model number location:
This is a 629-1.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/laytonj1/mod-1.jpg

38 special S&W; 4" barrel; serial #102** ; model #6029
The 6029 is an assembly number. See the pic for the SN location and include any letter prefixes. Also, is it a 5 or 6 shot?

Jim
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/laytonj1/swstandard.jpg

broncoman1972
February 16, 2012, 10:26 PM
Ok, I'll play. My Great Grandpa's model 10-5 .38sp SN C939***. When is it dated to? Also, my Dad says it'll shoot .357 also. What about .38p?

laytonj1
February 16, 2012, 11:35 PM
.38sp SN C939***. When is it dated to? Also, my Dad says it'll shoot .357 also. What about .38p?
First off, do not shoot 357's in it. They operate at twice the pressure and they should not even fit (too long). It was designed, chambered and marked for 38 special. You can shoot 38 +P.
SN dates it to 1967.

Jim

Cole Thorton
February 17, 2012, 03:55 AM
Does it say "Model 36" or Model 36-x whe you open the cylinder and look at attaching lug on the crane? If it doesn't it might be a pre model 36. How many screws does it have on the face plate? Can you send a pic? My email is mbliss57@yahoo.com
Mike

On the inside it says "MOD. 36" and the serial on the crane is 446XX.

broncoman1972
February 17, 2012, 08:37 AM
Wow! Thanks for the fast response and the info. I was told by my Dad that it was ok for .357 and have seen others that were listed to shoot both that's why I figured it was ok. I'll definitely stick with .38 and .38+p especially since I've got a .357 Blackhawk and .45 when more punch is needed.

Since y'all were so quick with that info I'll post in the shotgun forum with a Springfield and Excel 20 ga. shotguns I'm trying to get info on.

Thanks again!
Broncoman1972


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cleehorn
February 17, 2012, 08:42 PM
i have a 38 smith and wesson special and if anyone can tell me the age or date this gun was made i really would appriciate it the serial no is v630xxx

laytonj1
February 17, 2012, 10:20 PM
serial no is v630xxx
.38 Military & Police Victory Model. These were made for the war effort during WWII. Serial numbers ran from V1 in 1942 to V769000 in 1944.

Jim

cleehorn
February 17, 2012, 10:29 PM
thanks Jim for the response to my question , i had no clue it was that old and it is in really good condition, any clue as to what it is worth. thanks again
Charles

irish52084
February 17, 2012, 11:43 PM
Ok, got a 28-2 #N536396 Seems like a late model number to me, 80's manufacture maybe?

aechols83
February 18, 2012, 01:51 AM
Hello All,

I am a first timer here and need help with the production date of a Smith & Wesson Model 10-6 that I have received from a family estate. The serial # is D352XXX. Just want to make sure it is +p safe and if anyone knows approx. value for good condition that would be great.

Many thanks in advance for any help :)

Best,
Adam

rocker98
February 18, 2012, 02:07 AM
I've searched this thread for "28-2". I'm thinking based on the S serials I've seen dated, 1964 maybe for mine?

wow...I just noticed how many first time posters ther were here.

Hello...

Gary

aechols83
February 18, 2012, 03:44 AM
Yes, a great thread for the newbie S&W revolver purchaser and happy to be here :) I am more into collecting auto pistols and C&R but have this one revolver. I believe the serial # posted will place this gun in later production but am looking forward to Jim, Hammer and other members' input.

Best,
Adam

Dave Anderson
February 18, 2012, 11:00 AM
Ok, got a 28-2 #N536396 Seems like a late model number to me, 80's manufacture maybe?

You're on the right track: N500000 to N600000 date from 1978 - 1980.


Smith & Wesson Model 10-6 that I have received from a family estate. The serial # is D352XXX.

D330001 -D420000 date to 1971 - 1972. It is safe to use with .38Spl. +P ammunition.

Model 10s are almost as good as currency. Because so many were made values aren't high (except maybe in factory new condition with box and all accessories). On the other hand because they are so popular they are easy to sell. Ballpark value $300 assuming typical blue wear and handling marks for its age, but otherwise in sound operating condition.


I've searched this thread for "28-2". I'm thinking based on the S serials I've seen dated, 1964 maybe for mine? S252XXX

Good guess! S236000 - S257999 date to 1964 - 1965

rodney1968
February 18, 2012, 02:16 PM
I have a model 10-7 6 shot snubby aha24**

laytonj1
February 18, 2012, 02:44 PM
aha24**
1985.

Jim

MTurnage61
February 18, 2012, 03:32 PM
Ok guys, this is my first visit and first post to TheFiringLine. Please help me out with the year of manufacture for the following three S&W revolvers I own:
1) K-22 Model 17-8 Serial # CBH5XXX

2) 357 Mag Model 13-3 Serial# 9D70XXX

3) 22 Mag Model 651-1 Serial# CCC68XX
I am here to learn and to possibly share info with others. Thank-You! MT61

laytonj1
February 18, 2012, 07:42 PM
K-22 Model 17-8 Serial # CBH5XXX
357 Mag Model 13-3 Serial# 9D70XXX
22 Mag Model 651-1 Serial# CCC68XX
CBH5XXX = 1996/97
9D70XXX = 1982
CCC68XX = 1997

Jim

MTurnage61
February 18, 2012, 09:21 PM
Thanks for the quick reply!! The years stated are the years that I bought them new. I was wondering though if they had been sitting in the store for several years before I bought them but now I know! Thanks again! MT

rodney1968
February 19, 2012, 10:23 AM
thanks

tuco
February 19, 2012, 06:33 PM
I lost a sweet Model 27 that I bought new back in 1985 (purchased in 1983) - still licking my wound over that. I also gifted a well-used Model 27 snub-nose to my relative -- should have gifted one of my Glocks -- oh well.

I still have three left -- and they are staying with me. I am curious as to the age of each -- got them used.

19-4 with 4" barrel -- I think it is unfired. 4 0K9 035

27-2 with 5" barrel -- N478449 -- shot some by me and the family members -- but still looks new

27-2 with 8 3/8" barrel -- N184760 -- bought on Gunbroker as new-in-box. It looks clean, but it has the line around the cylinder. I just keep this one in safe.

If someone knows, how old are these pistols?

tuco
February 19, 2012, 06:47 PM
I also sold a 39-2 to a real nice fellow -- A449579 -- got it from the same person I got the 27-2 N478449 from. Pretty sure they are both un-fired after factory. He was pleased -- going to keep it as a safe queen. It would be nice to be able to tell him the vintage.

georgia73
February 19, 2012, 08:11 PM
I recently purchased a S&W Model 64-3 and would love to know the year of manufacture if possible.

The serial number is AFR6XXX

Thanks in advance for any help with this.

wizshuto
February 19, 2012, 08:57 PM
Hello, Just a couple of hours ago I both a S&W model 39-2 nickel plate serial number A5639xx. Would like to know history of the handgun. Thank You for any help you can give me.

laytonj1
February 19, 2012, 09:49 PM
4 0K9 035
N478449
N184760
A449579
Allot of close dates.
4 0K9 035 = SN's ran from 25K0001 in 1978 to 56K9999 in 1979.
N478449 = N4xxxxx ran from 1977 to 1978.
N184760 = 1973.

A449579 = SN's ran from A385001 in 1977 to A475000 in 1978.

The serial number is AFR6XXX
1984.

S&W model 39-2 nickel plate serial number A5639xx
1979.
Model 39 started production in 1954 as the first commercial 9mm double action auto in the US.
It became the model 39-2 in 1971 with the change to the smaller extractor with production continuing until 1982.

Jim

Dave Anderson
February 19, 2012, 09:49 PM
19-4 with 4" barrel -- I think it is unfired. 4 0K9 035

1978 - 1979 numbers ran from 25K0001 to 56K9999

27-2 with 5" barrel -- N478449

1977 - 1978 numbers were from N400000 to N500000

27-2 with 8 3/8" barrel -- N184760

1973

I also sold a 39-2 to a real nice fellow -- A449579

1977 - 1978 numbers were from A385001 to A475000

I recently purchased a S&W Model 64-3 and would love to know the year of manufacture if possible.

The serial number is AFR6XXX

Most likely late 1984 - early 1985

S&W model 39-2 nickel plate serial number A5639xx

1978 - 1979 numbers were from A475001 to A565000

Dave Anderson
February 19, 2012, 09:51 PM
Snap!

laytonj1
February 19, 2012, 09:53 PM
Nah, nah... I beat you too it!!

Jim

Dave Anderson
February 19, 2012, 09:56 PM
Yep, you did - but it was awfully close! I notice both replies show time posted as 10:49.

But a win is a win, even if only by a second.

georgia73
February 19, 2012, 10:02 PM
Thanks very much, Jim and Dave!

tuco
February 19, 2012, 11:36 PM
Thanks Dave and Jim. I really appreciate your nearly simultaneous responses. Now, should I continue to let the 19-4 and the 27-2 with 8 3/8" continue to be safe queens, or use them? On one hand, it is a shame to "age" them -- especially since I have another pretty much like them to shoot. On the other hand, they are tools meant to be shot. Either way, they will not be leaving me. I noticed that in the last number of years, the Model 27's are really going up in value.

laytonj1
February 19, 2012, 11:56 PM
Now, should I continue to let the 19-4 and the 27-2 with 8 3/8" continue to be safe queens, or use them
Well, I'll tell you what. I have a pristine model 52 from the first year of production (1961) with original box, paperwork, etc. It has been sitting in the safe for a long time. I have pondered whether or not to shoot it because finding another in mint condition is unlikely. But you know what, sitting in the safe does it nor me any good. Next shooting session I'm taking it out and doing what it was designed for.... shooting!

Jim

joehw
February 20, 2012, 06:52 PM
I recently inherited 4 Smith and Wesson 38 pistols. I am trying to find the model number and when they were made. I have pictures of each of them but didn't see a way to post them. All are revolvers

Smith and Wesson 38 S&W spl 2 inch Barrel
serial no. D545293

Smith and Wesson Airweight 38 Spl Ctg has a silver piece on front of grip
- serial no. BDY1778

Smith and Wesson S&S Special
38 Spl Ctg
4" barrel
Serial 505424

Smith and Wesson S&S Special
38 Spl Ctg
4" barrel
Serial 611438

Tasana Studios
February 20, 2012, 09:10 PM
Hello; I am not a gun person, I was when I was a kid, used to hunt, and LOVED it, but I got into using a Canon (camera). Anyway since I am not a gun person I will most likely step on some guidelines, hope not.

Me and some friends are refurbishing an old house left abandon. It has stayed in the same family since it was built. In the course of time, all that lived and died there left their stuff. Well some other friends of ours got evicted from their rental due to landlord wanting to live in the house. So we are fixing up this house for them at no cost to them.

Anyway I am over selling all the "good" stuff and today we found a gun. I have been searching and searching, but to no avail. I intend to take this gun to a large pawn shop tomorrow. We are selling the stuff to raise the funds to do the repairs. (TMI?) Anyway I would be very grateful if I could get some help in knowing when this gun was made and what it might be worth. The Serial# is 483068 it is a S&W 5 shot double action revolver. It has some time wear in it but the chamber still has real nice movement and it still will open to load. (I would not try firing it) I was also wondering what caliber it was as well.
Thanks
Gregory

Dave Anderson
February 21, 2012, 06:01 PM
Smith and Wesson 38 S&W spl 2 inch Barrel
serial no. D545293

1973 - 1974 numbers were from D510001 to D659901. Probably a model 10, model number would be on frame beneath barrel, visible when cylinder is swung out.

Smith and Wesson Airweight 38 Spl Ctg has a silver piece on front of grip
- serial no. BDY1778

Dates to April or May 1989. Model number should be visible as noted above, most likely a model 37 or 38. The silver piece is most likely a Tyler grip adapter.

Smith and Wesson S&S Special
38 Spl Ctg
4" barrel
Serial 505424

Smith and Wesson S&S Special
38 Spl Ctg
4" barrel
Serial 611438

Sorry, not sure what is meant by S&S Special.

The Serial# is 483068 it is a S&W 5 shot double action revolver.

Not much to go on, I'm guessing it is a break top (barrel tilts down for loading/unloading) with external hammer. The s/n falls within the range for the .38 Double Action 4th Model which was made 1895 - 1909. Cartridge is .38 S&W which is slightly larger in diameter but shorter than the .38 Special. Done enough guessing already so I won't make a guess as to value.

robert512
February 22, 2012, 05:15 PM
J394XXX

and

J205XXX

Thanks!!! :) :)

laytonj1
February 22, 2012, 07:30 PM
J394XXX and J205XXX
J205xxx = 1974
J394xxx = 1976
The J tells me they are the small "J" frame "Chiefs Special". As for the model number I would need to know the caliber.

Jim

PawPaw
February 22, 2012, 07:42 PM
Okay, I've resisted so far. Smith and Wesson Model 38 Bodyguard, Nickel, .38 special cartridge, J293XXX.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_uT51My5giE/TxrpswJllAI/AAAAAAAAB8Q/P-NEfmiQDTc/s400/Mod%2B38%2B02.jpg

laytonj1
February 22, 2012, 08:24 PM
J293XXX.
SN's ran from J250001 in 1975 to J370000 in 1976.

Jim

GAPI
February 23, 2012, 01:22 PM
Inherited Smith & Wesson 38 Military & Police Revolver
Serial Number c274XXX

Mint condition still in box. I don't think it was ever used. Box still has $62 price tag from "Klein's Sporting Goods". Apparently this is the same store Lee Harvey Oswald purchased his guns from.

I think my Dad got it mail order in the early 50's.

BGR
February 23, 2012, 02:14 PM
I need some help ID'ing an old revoler. It is a Smith and Wesson .38 Special CTG. K/L frame, not sure which. Square butt.

I was told it was a police issue service pistol made in the 70s or 80s.

Serial is either 541344 or S41344 on the inside of the cylinder and on the frame, and 57751 in the yoke area.

Finally, any approximate value for one in good condition, in the South Eastern United States.

laytonj1
February 23, 2012, 07:49 PM
I need some help ID'ing an old revoler. It is a Smith and Wesson .38 Special CTG. K/L frame
See pic for serial number location. You may need to remove the grips.

Jim
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/laytonj1/swstandard.jpg

FLGCWPG
February 24, 2012, 02:02 AM
Smith & Wesson Model 14
Serial # 14K2309

I'd like to know build date and production numbers.

Thanks!

Dave Anderson
February 24, 2012, 03:04 AM
Inherited Smith & Wesson 38 Military & Police Revolver
Serial Number c274XXX

1953

Box still has $62 price tag from "Klein's Sporting Goods". Apparently this is the same store Lee Harvey Oswald purchased his guns from.

I believe Oswald's rifle was purchased from Klein's. His revolver was purchased from Seaport Traders of Los Angeles. Incidentally the revolver was an S&W M&P originally made in .38 S&W, s/n V510210, and shipped to Britain during WW II. Subsequently it was rechambered to accept the .38 Special cartridge and its barrel shortened to about 2".


Smith & Wesson Model 14
Serial # 14K2309

1977 s/n range was from 10K0001 to 24K9999

hounddawg
February 24, 2012, 02:04 PM
Smith and Wesson 686-1 4 inch barrel, stainless, serial #AVD5932 with a M stamped below it. Neighbor is selling, think I might get it for around $400 plus or minus a few dollars. Comes with a cheap holster and some white box ammo, somewhere along the line it acquired a set of Pachmayer grips. Taking it to the range first, but curious as to what year it was made. He bought it used back in the 90's and has never fired it. Barrel looks to be in fair condition , may be a bit of lead or pitting in the middle between two grooves, I have not cleaned it yet so I am not sure what it is other than a small discolored spot. Could be spider dung for all I know, he has carried it under the back seat in his truck for years now.

Dave Anderson
February 24, 2012, 04:39 PM
Smith and Wesson 686-1 4 inch barrel, stainless, serial #AVD5932

Made July 1987 according to SCSW

I might get it for around $400 plus or minus

I'd call that a reasonable price in the condition you describe.

may be a bit of lead or pitting in the middle between two grooves

Most likely leading. S&W uses pretty good stainless alloys. Although pitting can result if you really work at it (e.g. dunking it in the ocean and then storing it uncleaned in a high humidity environment for a few years), it's unlikely pitting would show up in just one spot.

Cleaning will tell the tale. Even with a bit of pitting in the barrel odds are it will still shoot well.

hounddawg
February 24, 2012, 06:28 PM
thanks for the info. Update is it looks like it was leading, in the barrel. I got most of it off after repeated cleaning with Pro Shot, Hoppes 9 and Remington bore cleaner, about 50 patches and a introduction to mr copper brush combined with a lot of elbow grease. Next step is to get it up to the range one day this week and see how it fits my hand. I thought 400 plus or minus twenty five was a decent price just from my limited knowledge. Gun has a few handling scratches but I am not interested in a safe queen anyway. My club has started holding ICORE matches and I always liked revolvers, I just don't own any double actions other than the wifes bodyguard. I guess I will have to look into some speed loaders and a better holster if I can work a deal with the guy and I like the way the gun handles.

snookdawgg
February 25, 2012, 01:21 PM
Could somebody verify that this is a Model 17? It matches the pics on S&W's site to my eyes. Chambered in .22LR.

Also, any read on date of manufacture? Serial number is K843xxx.

Thanks.

Dave Anderson
February 25, 2012, 01:56 PM
Could somebody verify that this is a Model 17? It matches the pics on S&W's site to my eyes. Chambered in .22LR.

Also, any read on date of manufacture? Serial number is K843xxx.


Made in 1968. The model number (should be 17-3) is found stamped on the left side of the frame beneath where the barrel screws into the frame, and visible when the cylinder is swung out.

Great revolver and looks to be in nice condition.

redscho
February 25, 2012, 02:00 PM
It appears to be a model 17 K22 Masterpiece vintage 1968. Judged by many to be one of the best 22 revolvers ever produced.

I have one of the earlier ones.

snookdawgg
February 25, 2012, 07:27 PM
Thanks for the info, guys. I appreciate it.

robert_aue
February 26, 2012, 03:54 PM
Hi all, trying to date a M&P or Model 10, not sure. 4 inch barrel marked 38 S&W special ctg, equipped for a lanyard ring. The butt, cylinder and barrel are marked with the same number 922xxx. The crane and recess are marked 69xxx.

Thanks for any help

redscho
February 26, 2012, 04:47 PM
per Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson - Second Edition

.38 Special Hand Ejector M&P (Model 10) 1940-1945 Serial Numbers 700000 to 1000000. This would put yours at probably 1945.

Post war model 10s had a S or C1 prefix.

Trying to make sense out of the S&W models and serial numbers can be a study in futility for any but a S&W expert, which I obviously am not.:)

Dave Anderson
February 26, 2012, 07:23 PM
a M&P or Model 10, not sure. 4 inch barrel marked 38 S&W special ctg, equipped for a lanyard ring. The butt, cylinder and barrel are marked with the same number 922xxx.

Sounds like a Hand Ejector Military & Police, Model of 1905, 4th Change. S/N 999999 was made April 24, 1942, at which time S&W started a new numbering sequence with the letter "V" as a prefix.

During the war years S&W averaged around 20,800 of these revolvers a month, so a reasonable estimate for this example would be right around December 1941 - January 1942. Who knows, it may have been in production when the news of Pearl Harbor was just starting to come in.

The Model 10 designation began June 12, 1957.

capptainclutch
February 26, 2012, 10:40 PM
If anyone could provide the model number, production year, and any other random info I would greatly appreciate it.

Serial no. 538163
1491 is stamped on the yoke
.32 long ctg

http://thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=79171&stc=1&d=1330313864

robert_aue
February 27, 2012, 01:25 AM
Thanks a lot Dave Anderson and redscho! Good info, really appreciate the help!

redscho
February 27, 2012, 07:35 AM
capptainclutch

From the information provided your S&W 32 appears to be a model 30 or 31. Serial number would indicate manufacture sometime between 1948 and 1960. Postwar serial range starts at 536685. Your S/N 538163 suggests probably 1949. Dave Anderson can probably hit it closer. :)

Dave Anderson
February 27, 2012, 12:03 PM
Serial no. 538163
1491 is stamped on the yoke
.32 long ctg

This is a neat old gun. It appears to be a .32 Hand Ejector made on the S&W "I" frame, which is slightly smaller than the "J" frame. S&W introduced the J frame in 1950 for the Chiefs Special taking the .38 Special cartridge.

Seems odd they would go to the trouble of making two nearly identical frame sizes, but that is what they did until 1960 when the I frame was discontinued, and the former I frame models began being made on the J frame.

While in production the I frame was used for the .32 Hand Ejector, the .38 S&W Terrier, the Regulation Police in .32 S&W or .38 S&W, and the .22/.32 Kit Gun.

As redscho has indicated this one was most likely made in 1949. References don't always agree exactly on details. SCSW says postwar production of this resumed in 1948, while Roy Jinks in "A History of Smith & Wesson" says production resumed on July 14, 1949. Both agree the 2" barrel option first appeared in 1949.

The .32 Hand Ejector was assigned model number 30 when S&W began using the model number system in 1957. In 1960 when it began being made on the J frame it was called the 30-1.

I kind of rattled on here, but collector interest in postwar S&Ws is increasing. The difference in size from I to J frame doesn't mean much to a shooter but collectors do like to have their collections complete!

redscho
February 27, 2012, 12:41 PM
My neighbor, a lady 82, has one that I can't talk her out of. I doubt if she even knows how to load it. When she showed it to me she had a few 32 shorts wrapped up with it.

Dave Anderson
February 27, 2012, 02:18 PM
My neighbor, a lady 82, has one that I can't talk her out of. I doubt if she even knows how to load it. When she showed it to me she had a few 32 shorts wrapped up with it.

Beautiful condition! Does it have a model number stamped on it? I'm guessing it does as the serrated ramp front sight was introduced late 1956 - early 1957, and model stamping started in mid-1957.

Very nice indeed.

redscho
February 27, 2012, 04:43 PM
No Model number that I could find. S/N 790XXX. Does that help?

Dave Anderson
February 27, 2012, 05:50 PM
S/N 790XXX

The switch from I-frame to J-frame of the .32s took place April 20, 1961 at s/n 712954.

At first the J-frame version used a flat thumb latch. S&W went back to the regular thumb latch, which this one has, in 1966. However this one also has the diamond pattern around the grip screw, a feature dropped in 1968. So it would seem a safe guess this one would have been made in the 1966 - 1968 era.

boice1971
February 27, 2012, 08:53 PM
Can I get a year for a 686 with S/N AUA00xx? Thanks

oldwolf
February 27, 2012, 09:29 PM
I just picked up a S&W 4506 with serial # TEP03xx. I am guessing it was built in the 90's. Can you give me a year that it was manufactured? Thanks for doing all of this research. 205 pages is a long thread.

capptainclutch
February 27, 2012, 10:12 PM
Thanks redscho and Dave Anderson.

Dave Anderson
February 27, 2012, 10:30 PM
686 with s/n aua00xx?

1987

s&w 4506 with serial # tep03xx

1990

boice1971
February 27, 2012, 11:02 PM
Thank you Dave Anderson.

harry64
February 28, 2012, 05:18 AM
Hi everybody, i need to know if my Smith&Wesson 29-2 was made in late 1972 or in erly 1973?
Serial number is : N753xx
Thanks.

redscho
February 28, 2012, 10:08 AM
1972-73 S/N N60001 to N190000

harry64
February 28, 2012, 10:41 AM
Hi redscho, could be it an early 1972!?

redscho
February 28, 2012, 10:46 AM
Probably, your S/N is a lot closer to the beginning 72 number.

oldwolf
February 28, 2012, 11:32 AM
Thank you Dave.

Quote:
s&w 4506 with serial # tep03xx
1990

huntxtrm
February 28, 2012, 03:24 PM
I have a model 29-2 nickle N864xxx can you tell me when it was made? Value? had a guy offer me, want to make sure its right. thanks

Dave Anderson
February 28, 2012, 07:28 PM
I have a model 29-2 nickle N864xxx can you tell me when it was made? Value? had a guy offer me, want to make sure its right. thanks

SCSW says the N800000 numbers were used 1980 - 1983. Since yours is a 29-2 it would have been made before 1982 when the 29-3 model appeared.

Too many unknowns to hazard a guess as to value, e.g. condition, barrel length, accessories (original box, papers etc.). Yours has a pinned barrel and recessed chambers ("P&R") which most shooters and collectors feel adds to value.

I suggest you do a search at some of the gun trading web sites such as www.gunsamerica.com, www.gunbroker.com, www.gunsinternational.com. This will give an idea of asking prices at least (though asking price and selling price aren't always the same!)

skibum80
February 28, 2012, 08:07 PM
I was out of town visiting with my wife's Grandfather and he is asking me to research the age of a Smith and Wesson, model 10(I think) 6 shot revolver that he has. It is a double acting revolver with a laynard ring on the bottom. I found a serial number of 696xxx on the butt next to the ring, no prefix. The right side of the barrel had a stamp of .38 S & W. I believe it is either a 4" or 5" barrel. Unfortunately, I did not take any pictures.

Any information in regards to the age and value would be appreciated.

laytonj1
February 28, 2012, 08:42 PM
I found a serial number of 696xxx on the butt next to the ring, no prefix. The right side of the barrel had a stamp of .38 S & W.
Late 1930's.
It's likely a .38/200 British Service Revolver (Model K-200). S&W made these for England a few years before and during WWII. They are chambered in 38S&W, not to be confused with the more common 38 special.

Jim

harry64
February 29, 2012, 02:51 AM
Probably, your S/N is a lot closer to the beginning 72 number
Thank you redscho

Bronx1943
February 29, 2012, 10:42 AM
Found this old rustbucket not sur of the model, I believe the serial # is 300410 found on the grip base, 6" pinned barrel feels like the weight of a K frame, its marked 38 special

skibum80
February 29, 2012, 11:00 AM
Late 1930's.
It's likely a .38/200 British Service Revolver (Model K-200). S&W made these for England a few years before and during WWII. They are chambered in 38S&W, not to be confused with the more common 38 special.


Thanks Jim. That has been my confusion in reading up on this revolver, most people have it listed as a .38 special. Thanks again.

thirdcoastfisher
February 29, 2012, 06:40 PM
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg21/scaled.php?server=21&filename=photomxm.jpg&res=medium

I just got this pistol from my grandfather and found out for the first time that my grandmother's father was supposedly an FBI agent and this was his service revolver.

It's a S&W for sure, but I cannot find a model name nor really determine what caliber it is (he had .38 special rounds with it and that looks to be about right). Model Number 28684X on the bottom of the grip. As you can see its a bit of a rust bucket so I am considering having it restored, but it may just go in a case as is if I am not able to shoot it.

laytonj1
February 29, 2012, 07:23 PM
serial # is 300410 found on the grip base, 6" pinned barrel feels like the weight of a K frame, its marked 38 special
Most likely a .38 Military & Police 4th change. Serial number dates it to around 1920. It was made before modern heat treating so no +P ammo.

Model Number 28684X on the bottom of the grip
.38 Double Action 3rd Model. It is chambered for 38 S&W unless someone tried rechambering it for 38 special.
Serial numbers ran from 119001 in 1884 to 322700 in 1895.
Rather odd gun for an FBI service gun. It was an old gun when the FBI started in 1935.

Edit: After looking at it more, it actually looks more like a .32 caliber.
If that's the case, it would be a 32 Double Action 5th Model.
SN's ran fron 283000 in 1909 to 327641 in 1919.

Jim

thirdcoastfisher
February 29, 2012, 07:53 PM
Appreciate it Jim. I plan on taking it in to a gunsmith but really wanted to get an idea of what I have. My grandmother has no idea what he did for the FBI, she knows he went to South America at some point, so I am starting my research into that as well.

This could have just been his personal pistol, not his service weapon. My grandmother is 85 and he was with the FBI (or some other law enforcement agency) when she was a kid, so she doesn't remember much about it.

aerial_22
March 1, 2012, 07:30 PM
Good evening! I am new to the board. I have an old Smith and Wesson 38 special that was passed down to me from my grandfather. It has a 4" barrel and still has the original patina. The serial number is C231xx. Does anyone know the year this was manufactured and what the current value may be? Many thanks!

specialized26
March 2, 2012, 06:30 PM
Hey everyone, I'm new to the board and I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a ballpark date for two S+W Revolvers. I know the best way is through the factory, but just looking for a general idea. I inherited these guns from a retired detective. The first I believe is a model 10 or M+P the SN is C456xx. The second is a snubby, that I believe is a Chief's Special the SN is 136xx. Both are 38 spl. Any help would be appreciated. Pictures are attached. Thanks again.

bamalefty
March 2, 2012, 08:21 PM
i just joined site a few minutes ago been reading posts for last few hours trying to find yr of manufacture on this what im guessing is a chief according to posts it is a 5 shot nickel plated snubnose square butt hard rubber grips left side of barrel has smith & wesson s&w logo on left side below square flat release latch right side of barrel has 38s&w spl plate has 3 screws and 1 screw right above plate even with hammer serial # is 26619 on square butt plate # on yoke is 93071 and has #7 under it im guessing it was made in 1956 from what ive been reading on threads and pieceing together but would like someone with more knowledge and or s&w bible to give it a whirl any help would be appreciated thanks

bamalefty
March 2, 2012, 08:37 PM
my pistol looks like specialized26 photo but with the black rubber grips which cover the frame and i have no knurls on ejection rod its smooth dont know if they came off or it was made that way

laytonj1
March 2, 2012, 08:41 PM
The serial number is C231xx
Serial numbers ran from C1 in 1948 to C223998 in 1951. Yours is likely 1948/49.
Hard to tell condition from the pic but $300 to $400.

The first I believe is a model 10 or M+P the SN is C456xx. The second is a snubby, that I believe is a Chief's Special the SN is 136xx.
As above, serial numbers ran from C1 in 1948 to C223998 in 1951. Yours is likely 1948/49. And it is a M&P which became the Model 10 when S&W began model numbers in 1957.
The Chiefs Special is 1952.

serial # is 26619 on square butt
Your Chiefs Special is 1953.

Jim

bamalefty
March 2, 2012, 09:07 PM
thanks jim guess i guessed pretty close gettn it cleaned up for my mother to carry she got her permit today the action is smooth and crisp for a gun that age thanks again

specialized26
March 2, 2012, 09:21 PM
Thanks!

Biggnick15
March 2, 2012, 11:13 PM
Hey guys,

I received what appears to be a S&W Model 17 (.22 LR) which belonged to my great grandfather. The serial number is 669xxx. There's another number on the cylinder which is 284xxx. Not sure why there are two numbers. Can anyone help me out on a DOB? I can post pics if necessary. Thank you

aerial_22
March 3, 2012, 12:20 AM
New to the board. I have a S&W 38 Special with a 4" barrel. The serial number is C2315xx. Can someone give me an approximate DOM and what it may be worth? It was passed down from my grandfather and I'm looking to sell it to cover some medical expenses. Many thanks!

Thanks,
Mike

MinesMan14
March 3, 2012, 03:05 PM
Hello everyone,

I'm new to the board, and I am looking for some information about a gun I inherited from my great-grandfather after he passed. I believe it is a Smith and Wesson model 1 1/2 but I'm not 100%. It breaks up and holds five rounds (too big for .22, probably .32) I was wondering just how old this gun is, the serial number (on the bottom of the grip) is 438XX. The gun is in great condition, so I was wondering just how old it is, and if it is indeed the model 1 1/2. Also, I don't think I could bear to part with this one, but I was still wondering how much it could be worth.

Any help is appreciated,

Jeremiah

LecterQ
March 3, 2012, 04:49 PM
Hello all,
I'd like to find out the production date on a Highway Patrolman I was given as a gift. S/N: N283XXX. I'm new to this model, but had it 'appraised' for trade in on amother weapon and they offered surprisingly low-even at 90%+ condition. But, it was at an 'Outfitter' type store.
And what are the production years for Model 28-1 and 28-2?
Was there any different finishes issued?

Thanks much!

laytonj1
March 3, 2012, 08:03 PM
The serial number is 669xxx
See pic for serial number location. If that is where you got the SN from and there is no "K" prefix then it's a K-22 Outdoorsman. Serial numbers ran from 632124 in 1931 to 682149 in 1940.
If the other number (284xxx) is actually stamped on the back of the cylinder and does not match the number on the underside of the grip butt then the cylinder has likely been replaced.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/laytonj1/swstandard.jpg

The serial number is C2315xx
.38 Military & Police made in 1953.
Value depends on condition but runs from about $250 well used to around $500 in "like new".

the serial number (on the bottom of the grip) is 438XX
Assuming it is a 32 cal Tip-Up the SN would make it a Model One and a Half 2nd Issue. They are chambered in .32 Rimfire Long. SN's ran from 26301 in 1868 to 127100 in 1875.
Value based on 2006 pricing was $300 in good to $800 in excellent to $1500 in "as new".

S/N: N283XXX
The N2xxxxx range ran from 1974 to 1977.
Production started in 1954. Became the model 28 in 1957, model 28-1 in 1960, 28-2 in 1961 and 28-3 in 1982. Production ended in 1986.
Matte blue is the standard finish. A couple dozen left the factory with nickel finish for the FHP (Florida HP) and are marked as such. Another 5 (satin nickel) made as dealer samples.

Jim

Biggnick15
March 3, 2012, 09:37 PM
Ok, sorry about that - try K284xxx. The gun had large aftermarket grips that I had to remove to get to the Serial #. The other number I mentioned is located in the yoke/crane area. The one on the butt of the frame matches what is on the cylinder. Thanks for the help!

Auto426
March 4, 2012, 02:09 AM
If you would please S&W experts: My latest acquisition is a 66-5, serial number CDY03XX.

My uneducated guess is 1980's production, judging by the lack of the lock, and the frame mounted firing pin.

laytonj1
March 4, 2012, 06:34 PM
try K284900
K-22 Masterpiece made in 1956.
SN's ran from K266165 to K288988 that year. The other numbers are assembly numbers.

66-5, serial number CDY03XX
The dash 5's ran from 1998 to 2002. CDYxxxx would be Febuary 2000.
The lock started with the dash 6. The frame mounted firing pin with the dash 5.

Jim

chbseatt
March 4, 2012, 06:49 PM
Hi All,

I'm the volunteer at the Washington National Guard Museum and we have a Smith & Wesson M&P Model 10, serial # C238XXX in the collection. Yesterday the property book officer for Camp Murray (HQ for the Washington National Guard) came in and said for their records they needed the year it was manufactured for their records. Wanted the information yesterday along with the same thing on several other firearms. Just looked at her and said it would take a few days to track it down.
Anyone here that can tell me the year it was made? Would greatly appreciate it. Did see earlier in this thread that The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson has this info. Will eventually in the next few months be getting that for my reference library but can't wait that long to get this info.
Thanks for the help.

Auto426
March 4, 2012, 06:53 PM
The dash 5's ran from 1998 to 2002. CDYxxxx would be Febuary 2000.
The lock started with the dash 6. The frame mounted firing pin with the dash 5.

Jim

Thank you for the education. I had thought the frame mounted firing pins had started early than that.

laytonj1
March 4, 2012, 10:09 PM
C238XXX
1953.
SN's ran from C226004 to C277554 that year.

Jim

chbseatt
March 4, 2012, 11:14 PM
Thanks Jim. I appreciate it. :D

Chris

joybelz
March 5, 2012, 11:10 AM
My husband just received one of his father's guns. He was a sheriff, but was told this wasn't his service revolver. Here are pictures of the gun and the original box. Does anyone have information about it? Thanks

Dave Anderson
March 5, 2012, 06:01 PM
My husband just received one of his father's guns. He was a sheriff, but was told this wasn't his service revolver. Here are pictures of the gun and the original box. Does anyone have information about it? Thanks

I don't think the box is correct for the revolver. A model 66-1 should have a shrouded ejector rod and adjustable rear sight. Also the box has the notation RR (for red ramp front sight) and the revolver in photo doesn't seem to have a red sight insert.

The revolver pictured appears to be a model 65. I'd suggest checking the serial number on the bottom of the grip frame. The grips will have to come off in order to see the serial number.

joybelz
March 6, 2012, 12:46 PM
Thank you, Dave. I will remove the grips and see what I find. I appreciate your help.

Khumanos
March 6, 2012, 06:35 PM
Just got this off Buds. It says MOD. 10-10 #BRH0011. Any idea to the age?

Thanks all

-K
___________________________________________________________________
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly."
- Winston Churchill

Biggnick15
March 6, 2012, 08:23 PM
Thank you so much!

laytonj1
March 6, 2012, 08:34 PM
It says MOD. 10-10 #BRH0011
Also answered in your other post, 1994.

Jim

Khumanos
March 6, 2012, 08:49 PM
Thank you Jim.

-K
___________________________________________________________________
"I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly."
- Winston Churchill

jt17921
March 7, 2012, 03:04 PM
Looking to find a DOB on my grandma's smith & wesson 15-2 .38 spl. SN : k744xxx. If you can help it would be great thanks

Josh

laytonj1
March 7, 2012, 09:39 PM
SN : k744xxx
1967.
SN's ran from K715997 to K779162 that year.

Jim

jt17921
March 8, 2012, 01:42 PM
Thanks alot jim

speedracer50-50
March 8, 2012, 05:57 PM
Hello all!!!
I just purchased a used S&W Model 67 .38 Special.
The serial number is 6K58XXX.
Can anyone tell me what year it was made and if it is rated for +P?? Have worn out S&W website for info but no luck!!!
Thankx for any info!!!

CrazyCroat
March 8, 2012, 09:10 PM
I just inherited a S&W revolver from my Father whose Parkinson's has gotten to bad for a snub nose .357. He switched to a .380 Walther instead but I need some info on the pistol and unfortunately the med's have wrecked his memory. My serial number on the snub .357 is 21K81XX. Does that sound familiar to anyone?

cat9x
March 9, 2012, 09:24 AM
Hey guys I was recently given this gorgeous Smith Model 57. I know nothing about Smiths but now have a growing interest. If anyone could give me any info on this pistol I'd greatly appreciate it.

This appears hand engraved, is this correct? A very very ballpark idea of what they might be valued at? Does Smith designate engraved pistols by "grade"?

The serial number is N707XXX, mfg date? MANY THANKS Y'ALL!

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x82/cat9x/Picture001-1.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x82/cat9x/Picture002-1.jpg

Dave Anderson
March 9, 2012, 11:56 AM
I just purchased a used S&W Model 67 .38 Special.
The serial number is 6K58XXX.
Can anyone tell me what year it was made and if it is rated for +P??

Made in 1974. According to S&W it is safe to use with +P ammunition.

My serial number on the snub .357 is 21K81XX.

S/N indicates a K-frame with adjustable rear sight made in 1977. Chambered in .357 Magnum it must be either a model 19 (blued or nickeled carbon steel) or a model 66 (stainless steel). The model number will be stamped inside the frame below where the barrel screws into the frame, visible when the cylinder is swung out.

Since you call it a snub it most likely has the 2 1/2" barrel (measured from cylinder face to muzzle). During the '70s and into the early '80s these revolvers were very popular as duty sidearms for police officers working in plainclothes.

The serial number is N707XXX, mfg date? MANY THANKS Y'ALL

Made in 1980. It appears to have good quality hand engraving (good sharp photos by the way). I don't know enough about engraving to say if it was done at the factory or done later by another engraver. This is a case where you want to get a factory letter which would indicate if it was factory engraved. Go to the website www.smith-wesson.com and there should be a link to direct you where to write.

cat9x
March 9, 2012, 01:39 PM
thank you VERY much Dave! You're a great help. I'll take your advice and attain a factory letter.

Dave Anderson
March 9, 2012, 03:17 PM
I'll take your advice and attain a factory letter.

cat9x, I was looking into getting a factory letter for one of my own S&Ws, since i was on the web page anyway I copied and pasted the link.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category4_750001_750051_757825_-1_757814_757812_image

saltydog452
March 10, 2012, 02:00 PM
Dave,

I have what I think is a fairly desirable M 27. Its a 27-2, 5" barrel, nickle plated, TT/TH, solid (no red insert in the front/no white outline in the rear) adjustable rear sight/ramp front, the cylinders are recessed and the barrel is pinned.

Serial number range is N 6275XX. Std S&W oversize 'target' grip panels are not serial numbered to the frame.

Can you tell me a bit more?

Thanks,

salty

5 Stand Dan
March 10, 2012, 04:08 PM
Hey Guys,

I have an old .22lr, I believe it is a 22/32 built on an I frame. It has adjustable sights and a 4" barrel, serial # 532xxx

What can you tell me about it?

Thanks, 5 Stand Dan

Dave Anderson
March 10, 2012, 06:53 PM
I have what I think is a fairly desirable M 27. Its a 27-2, 5" barrel, nickle plated, TT/TH, solid (no red insert in the front/no white outline in the rear) adjustable rear sight/ramp front, the cylinders are recessed and the barrel is pinned.

Serial number range is N 6275XX. Std S&W oversize 'target' grip panels are not serial numbered to the frame.

Can you tell me a bit more?

Thanks,

salty

Well, I never saw a 27 I didn't like, but you do have an unusual combination of features. I'm away from home at present and don't have access to my reference books, but from memory the s/n dates it to around 1980.

The stocks not being numbered to the revolver is correct for the time frame, as S&W stopped doing that around the mid to late 1970s. I believe they dropped the 3 1/2" and 5" barrel options in 1979, which doesn't quite jibe with the s/n. It could easily happen that someone in 1980 special-ordered a 5" barrel and S&W still had some in stock.

Pinned and recessed makes it more desirable. Generally buyers will pay a bit more for the TT/TH. I prefer the feel of a standard serrated trigger but that is just personal preference. Nickel is less commonly seen than blue. Not sure if it carries a premium, it really depends on what the buyer likes and wants. Nickel is very attractive, but then so is the S&W bright blue.

The 5" barrel on the N-frame .357 was a favorite of Skeeter Skelton. It does have a "just right" look on the N frame. I passed up a blued one in around 95% condition for $550 a year or so back and have regretted it ever since.

laytonj1
March 10, 2012, 09:00 PM
I have an old .22lr, I believe it is a 22/32 built on an I frame. It has adjustable sights and a 4" barrel, serial # 532xxx
The description/serial number fits for a .22/32 Kit Gun (Prewar).
Serial numbers ran from 525670 in 1935 to 536684 in 1941.

Jim

Rspeters
March 10, 2012, 09:17 PM
Hi There,

I'm looking into purchasing a 625-6 .45lc mountain gun. On one side of the barrel it says .45 colt, and the other side says "Mountain Gun". The serial number is CAN92**. It's a 4" barrel (I believe). I'm mostly looking to find out what year it's from, and whether or not it's a pre-lock. I don't have it in front of me, or else I'd just look at it.

Thanks in advance for your help.

kyle.helmke
March 11, 2012, 02:54 PM
serial numbers are 912491, 5 inch barell

laytonj1
March 12, 2012, 05:21 PM
The serial number is CAN92**.
1996. It would be a pre lock.

serial numbers are 912491
Assuming there is no letter prefix with that number, around 1941.

Jim

saltydog452
March 13, 2012, 11:14 AM
That says it all.

Many thanks,

salty

Double_Trouble
March 13, 2012, 03:30 PM
I inherited my late father's S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman, 4" barrel, and am interested in finding the date of mfg.
ETA: No dash.

The S/N is S202592

Thanks for your help.

laytonj1
March 13, 2012, 05:22 PM
The S/N is S202592
SN's ran from S194500 in 1959 to S206999 in 1960.

Jim

Double_Trouble
March 13, 2012, 06:29 PM
The S/N is S202592
SN's ran from S194500 in 1959 to S206999 in 1960.

Thanks Jim

speedracer50-50
March 14, 2012, 11:07 AM
TO: Dave Anderson: Many Thanks for the info!!!! Figured it was before 1980!!! Seems like it was around 1980 they quit doing the pinned in barrel, if I remember right!!! Does anyone have any idea what it might be worth??? It has only minor surface wear, is Stainless and has the original S&W wood grips, would classify it at a minimum of 85 to 90 percent!!!
Thanx and Happy shooting!!!

sgtsandbagger
March 14, 2012, 12:48 PM
My Model 36 no dash is serial number 286xxx. From what I've been able to find reading all the posts, this gun should be about a 1961 model. Can anyone verify this?
An aquaintance that won't tell me much about the gun wants to give me $400 for it in OKC. The gun is blue and VGC.
Deal or no deal??
Thanks for the help

laytonj1
March 14, 2012, 06:21 PM
My Model 36 no dash is serial number 286xxx
SN's started at 295000 in 1962 so 61 could be correct.
In VGC $400 sounds okay. If it was in minty condition (no finish wear) I would be looking for more.

Jim

sgtsandbagger
March 14, 2012, 08:04 PM
I wouldn't call it minty. It's got some holster wear.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/sgtsandbagger/Armslist/model36back.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/sgtsandbagger/Armslist/model36.jpg

Looks better in person than it does with the crappy camera flash

In the top picture do y'all think that line inbetween the grips and the trigger guard is from a holster strap? It's a perfectly straight line. I'll try to get a better pic of it.

ddalva
March 15, 2012, 10:02 PM
Hi Folks,

Any date/model on this .32 S&W 5-shooter?

S/N 156594

79801

79802

sgtsandbagger
March 16, 2012, 07:18 AM
ddalva,
I've got one of those in blue. my grandpa carried it as a deputy back in the 1930s. I like to get more info on it too.

laytonj1
March 16, 2012, 05:05 PM
Any date/model on this .32 S&W 5-shooter?

S/N 156594
.32 Double Action 4th Model.
SN's ran from 43406 in 1883 to 282999 in 1909.

Jim

LouisianaMan
March 17, 2012, 10:54 PM
745xx is SN on butt, late I frame with ramp front sight, caliber .38 S&W (NOT 38 Spl); 4 screw; 2" (or 1 7/8") bbl.
DOB would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

laytonj1
March 18, 2012, 03:27 PM
745xx is SN on butt
SN's ran from 54474 in 1948 to 122678 in 1974.
The improved I frame (4 screw) began in 1953 with the 4th screw (upper sideplate) eliminated in 1955.

Jim

Leonydes
March 19, 2012, 10:48 PM
The serial number is 8828X. only five numbers. Double action revolver in .38 special cal. It has "US ServiceCTG'S" on the barrel.

Does anyone have any information about this gun? Date of manufacture?

mesajim
March 20, 2012, 01:02 PM
I have an older S&W 5 shot revolver, S/N 55XXX and am interested in finding any info on it, like model and type (New to forum, don't know exactly what I'm doing) All S/N's match on various places on gun and grip. It has original holster marked S&W. I am trying to attach a picture. It looks like it has had the old finish removed. Barrel and action is very good.Thanks in advance

laytonj1
March 20, 2012, 06:35 PM
The serial number is 8828X
38 Military & Police Model of 1905, 1st Change.Serial numbers ran from 73251 in 1906 to 146899 in 1909.

S&W 5 shot revolver, S/N 55XXX
I'm assuming it's chambered in 38 Special?
If so, it's a Chiefs Special made in 1955.
If the chambering stamped on the side of the barrel is something different (like 38 S&W) then I'll need that info to correctly date it.

Jim

mesajim
March 20, 2012, 09:44 PM
It is chambered in .38 (right side of barrel stamped 38 S&W CTG) Thanks for the response.

LC Dave
March 21, 2012, 04:41 PM
I just joined the forum and am glad to be here. I'm looking forward to participating in many threads.

I have a S.& W. 38 SPL. The serial number is 317XX (last two numbers omitted).

The pistol has been with the family for some time and I was wondering about when it was manufactured. Thanks in advance.

laytonj1
March 21, 2012, 07:11 PM
right side of barrel stamped 38 S&W CTG
Then it's either a .38 Regulation Police (Square Butt) or .38/32 Terrier (round butt). For either one the SN would date to very late 40's to early 50's.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/laytonj1/SWBUTTS.jpg

I have a S.& W. 38 SPL. The serial number is 317XX
See pic for serial number location and is it a 5 shot or 6?

Jim
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/laytonj1/swstandard.jpg

LC Dave
March 21, 2012, 10:59 PM
It's a five shot. I read the numbers from the same area as your picture. Five digits, with last two covered with my fat thumb.

http://i41.tinypic.com/vmwup3.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/4gpb7.jpg

BGR
March 22, 2012, 03:32 AM
I need some help ID'ing an old revoler. It is a Smith and Wesson .38 Special CTG. K/L frame, not sure which. Square butt.

I was told it was a police issue service pistol made in the 70s or 80s.

Serial is either 541344 or S41344 on the inside of the cylinder and on the frame, and 57791 in the yoke area.

I hope you fellows can help me. I inherited these firearms and they have been nothing but a burden to my state of mind. It's worries me to death that my kids will find these guns.

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m638/Brandon-GR/IMG_0451.jpg?t=1332404942

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m638/Brandon-GR/IMG_0454.jpg?t=1332404944

laytonj1
March 22, 2012, 04:37 PM
It's a five shot. I read the numbers from the same area as your picture. Five digits, with last two covered with my fat thumb.
I love pictures. It's an early Chiefs Special, a really nice one too! SN dates it to 1953/54.

Serial is either 541344

That would be the serial number on the butt and cylinder. It's a K frame .38 Military & Police. SN dates it to around late 1920's.

Jim

LC Dave
March 22, 2012, 04:52 PM
Thank you Mr. Layton for the swift reply. The manufacturing date goes right along with the owner's rookie year with the police department.

I appreciate your help.

BGR
March 23, 2012, 02:48 AM
That would be the serial number on the butt and cylinder. It's a K frame .38 Military & Police. SN dates it to around late 1920's.

Jim

Hi Jim, Thank you so much for your time and research. I feel much better about selling it now that I know what I have. Can anyone give me an appraisal or rough estimate on this piece? It is fully functional with smooth action but it does have it's cosmetic flaws.

Mark14
March 25, 2012, 12:16 AM
I just purchased a S&W K frame, and am looking to find out the model and year.

When you open the cyclinder it appears to be stamped 14440
The bottom of the grip has K 305XXX
thanks

Controlfreak
March 25, 2012, 12:52 AM
Awesome site you all have here. Am looking forward to many hours perusing posts, asking questions, and maybe even help with a few replies of my own with my limited experience and knowledge.

I've inherited a revolver from my father, who inherited it from my grandfather. I have no desire to sell but would however like to glean a bit of history on the firearm. The family story (however skewed over the years) is that my grandfather spent the better part of a year living out of a hotel room in Vegas sometime in the 40's (salesman). While there, he befriended another long-stay hotel resident from Chicago (occupation unknown). One day my grandfather walked into his friends room and this revolver was laying out in the open on a nightstand. My grandfather expressed interest in the revolver but the other fellow shut him down pretty quick. A few months later the other fellow checked out and moved away, but left a package with the front desk for my grandfather. In the package was the revolver. No note left, and he never heard from the fellow again.

The revolver had been altered as the barrel is 1 3/8"-1 1/2" long and I can't find a record of this ever being made. However, the job was done professionally from what I can see as the barrel is nicely crowned (no hack job) and the blade front site is attached/reattached. It's a 5 shot revolver, nickel/chrome plated, double action, safety hammerless (lemon squeezer) in .38 S&W. Serial number is intact on the butt, it is 141xx. Can someone give me an idea as to date of manufacture?

I'm not selling the revolver for obvious sentimental reasons but am curious as to the history. Came from my father's estate with a cool little leather paddle holster for behind the belt but am unsure of it's age.

Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide.

Grant D
March 25, 2012, 10:25 AM
I just bought a m-37 no dash serial # 1J29168 anybody know the production year off hand?? would be greatly appreciated, thank guys.

FlyFish
March 25, 2012, 10:48 AM
Mark14: The SN on virtually all S&W revolvers is the number stamped on the butt - yours dates the gun to 1957. It's not possible to determine the model without more information, such as caliber, barrel length, etc. A photo would be good if you have one. That said, S&W started numbering their various models (they previously just used names) in 1957, so it's possible your gun may have the model number stamped inside the yoke cutout. If not, supply more info and someone will be along to tell you the model.

Controlfreak: With that SN, you have a .38 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model; 37,350 of them were produced from 1887 to 1890. The SN range was from 5251 to 42483, so yours was most likely made in late '87 - early '88, but that's just an estimate. If the barrel length is as you say (measured from the forcing cone/front of cylinder) you're correct that it did not leave the factory that way.

Grant D: 1983

Grant D
March 25, 2012, 01:40 PM
FlyFish: Thank you sir.

Controlfreak
March 25, 2012, 05:21 PM
Thanks very much for the info FlyFish.

ithaca66
March 26, 2012, 08:47 AM
Hello my first post. I have acquired four 4" Smith Revolvers and was currious as to the dates. Thanks for any help in advance.
28-2 S244xxx
19-3 2K60xxx
66-1 115Kxxx
686-1 AUW0xxx

FlyFish
March 26, 2012, 09:21 AM
Here ya go . . .

28-2: 1964-65, the range was S236000 to S257999
19-3: 1972
66-1: 1981
686-1: 1986 (You know about the recall on this model, right?)

ithaca66
March 26, 2012, 11:12 AM
Flyfish,
Thank you for your fast reply. I do not know of the recall, can u further explain so that I can check to see if it has been fixed.

FlyFish
March 26, 2012, 11:24 AM
The "no dash" and -1 Model 686s (and also the Models 586, 581 and 681) had an issue with the firing pin and bushing that allowed metal from the priming cup to flow into this area with certain loads, which resulted in the cylinder locking up and disabling the weapon. S&W recalled these models and retrofitted a new bushing, and perhaps other parts as well, and stamped an "M" in the yoke cutout to indicate the modification had been performed.

Swing the cylinder out and look for the M in the area that the model number is stamped - if it's there you're all set. If not, my understanding is that S&W is still correcting the problem at no cost to the owner and you may want to contact them. I say "may" because the problem is rare and if the gun is not intended for SD work you may not want to bother. I have some 586s/686s with and some without the modified bushing - they're all range guns and I've never had a problem with the unmodified ones.

Gremlin
March 26, 2012, 07:40 PM
I've been looking through the thread trying to find my answer and haven't been able to solve it for myself... so... I'll be dependent upon smarter folks to help me.

I just bought a Model 17-4 K22 with target grips and pinned barrel and am trying to determine the age. Not owning many Smith's in my collection, I'm not familiar with what's important. It looks to me like it has three screws in the frame.

Just the fact that it's a 17-4 tells me something, but I'd like to get closer.

On the frame it shows:

31K0911
MOD 17-4

and the same number 31K0911 appears on the bottom of the frame under the target grips.

The cylinder crane it is stamped 68419 and the same number is stamped at the bottom of the frame under the left grip.

At the bottom of the frame (under the right grip) it is stamped 04548 with 'circle' C and 'triangle' N proof marks.

I figure that I've given too much information, but better that than too little. I appreciate your help!

laytonj1
March 26, 2012, 08:40 PM
number 31K0911 appears on the bottom of the frame under the target grips
Serial numbers ran from 25K0001 in 1978 to 56K9999 in 1979.

Jim


FlyFish, nice to have you back!

Gremlin
March 26, 2012, 10:44 PM
Thank you so much for the quick response. I appreciate the spirit of The Firing Line and the people that make it a haven for lovers of firearms.

Gremlin

FlyFish
March 27, 2012, 08:06 AM
Thanks, Jim. I haven't been too far away, just a bit busy with my long-anticipated, and now completed, relocation from Mass to NH.

Scorpmann3518
March 27, 2012, 11:07 AM
I know the discussion is old but I picked up a S&W Model 10-7 Yesterday and have been trying to date it.

SN is 4D502XX

Thanks for any help :)

FlyFish
March 27, 2012, 11:19 AM
I picked up a S&W Model 10-7 Yesterday and have been trying to date it.

SN is 4D502XX

Your 10-7 (and any other Smith with an SN starting with 4D) is from 1979. The 10-7 was introduced in 1977 and succeeded by the the 10-9 in 1988. What about the 10-8, you ask? In the case of the Model 10, S&W used certain "dash" numbers for the tapered barrel versions, which yours is, and different numbers for the heavy barrels. So, the tapered barrel 10-4 was replaced in sequence by the 10-5, 10-7, 10-9 and 10-11. The heavy barrel 10-3 similarly spawned the 10-6, 10-8, 10-10, and 10-12.

tayloke
March 28, 2012, 12:22 PM
serial #CV5XXX approximate DOB please?

FlyFish
March 28, 2012, 03:39 PM
serial #CV5XXX approximate DOB please?

Something not right here - are you getting that SN off the butt of the gun, and, if so, is what you typed correct?

The Model 64-3 was produced from 1977 to 1988; up to 1983, when S&W switched to the current "3 letters plus 4 numbers" serial number format, a 64-3 would have had an SN in the form of 1 or 2 digits, followed by a "D", followed by 5 or 4 digits, respectively.

If yours is post-83 it should have 3 letters, not two, and I don't believe an SN starting with a "C" would be correct - they didn't get to "C" numbers until 1996. Is it possible the SN starts with an "A" or a "B"?

tayloke
March 28, 2012, 04:23 PM
sorry. i have a hogue rubber grip on it and didn't catch it all. ACV5XXX

laytonj1
March 28, 2012, 05:07 PM
ACV5XXX
1983.

Jim

viperjody
March 29, 2012, 05:36 PM
Can anyone help me with my Smith 15-5, serial # AWL1277. Any idea of year? thank you.

laytonj1
March 29, 2012, 06:24 PM
serial # AWL1277
1987.

Jim

viperjody
March 29, 2012, 07:30 PM
thank you Jim

LAsharpshooter
March 31, 2012, 08:50 PM
I just acquired a Smith and Wesson that has "Regulation Police" over "38 S & W CTG" on the side of the barrel. The number on the grip is 7791. The number when you open the cylinder is 1358 while the number on the bottom of the barrel is 7791. Any info about this gun would be great. I have no idea the model and I don't know which is the actual serial number.

laytonj1
March 31, 2012, 09:06 PM
"Regulation Police" over "38 S & W CTG"
It's a .38 Regulation Police (prewar). It became the Model 33 when S&W began assigning model numbers around 1957.
The chambering is 38 S&W, not to be confused with the more common 38 Special. They are not interchangable.
The legal SN is the one on the grip butt (7791). On older guns the SN was also stamped on the barrel, back of the cylinder and a couple other spots. In this case the 1358 number on the frame forward of the cylinder is an assembly number.
Serial numbers ran from 1 in 1917 to 54474 in 1940. Yours is likely pre to early 1920's.

Jim

LAsharpshooter
March 31, 2012, 09:25 PM
Wow! Thanks for the info! I had no idea what it was. I was thinking maybe a pre model 10. The guy I got it from said it was made in 1919 but I wasn't sure. At least now I can look up the value to see what I got. I knew the cylinder would not hold a 38 spl. The guy I got it from thought it was and when I showed him one wouldn't fit, he dropped the price.

TheDirtyBubble
April 1, 2012, 03:05 AM
My father left me a S&W .357 SN. AEL3625 mod.586 e672xxx can anyone tell me the age please and thank you.

laytonj1
April 1, 2012, 07:00 PM
SN. AEL3625
1984.

Jim

Trippje
April 4, 2012, 12:57 AM
I was wondering if someone could help me out with some information on a revolver. I have a chance to buy a smith and Wesson revolver and I would like to know how old it is. It is obviously and older gun. The writing on it says 38 s&w special u.s. service and the number on the bottom of the grip says 71717. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.

linus
April 4, 2012, 02:13 PM
I have a S&W Model 60-9 with a serial# CEF64xx, any idea as to it's age.

Thanks

laytonj1
April 4, 2012, 05:37 PM
38 s&w special u.s. service and the number on the bottom of the grip says 71717
Pretty sure it's a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905.
Serial numbers ran from 62450 in 1905 to 73250 in 1906.

serial# CEF64xx
Late 2000.

Jim

Roamingdoc83
April 6, 2012, 08:17 AM
Wow!
Well, would imagine some folks are tired of looking stuff up but if anyone has "one more" kindness - a S&W Model 18-4 with Serial of 8K261**
I've had this for a long time but my old brain doesn't recall - know it is at least 30 yrs old ( P & R'ed revolver).

Thanks for the help!

laytonj1
April 6, 2012, 05:07 PM
18-4 with Serial of 8K261**
1975.

Jim

4INCHSMITH
April 6, 2012, 05:41 PM
Picked up a Model 37 sq. butt snubby today. Serial #J930XX
I'm a bit curious as to how old it is, the serial# seems low but it does not have the flat cylinder latch.
Looks good, got it for $375 OTD :)
Thank you ahead of time.

laytonj1
April 6, 2012, 06:24 PM
Serial #J930XX
1970.

Flat latch ended ~1966.

Jim

Roamingdoc83
April 6, 2012, 06:58 PM
1975.

Jim


THANKS JIM!

TheNocturnus
April 6, 2012, 11:16 PM
Hey gurus of serial numbers. I was sent here by a fellow member to see when my S&W 469 was manufactured. Granted it is not a revolver but I do own a S&W 642 that will keep it company if that helps ease your conscious.:D

The serial # is A8632XX

Thanks!

dnsharpshooter
April 7, 2012, 10:29 AM
model 10-10 SN BHP5042. Thanks!!

FlyFish
April 7, 2012, 10:55 AM
The serial # is A8632XX.

It's OK. Honest. Bottom-feeders are people, too! :D
1983

model 10-10 SN BHP5042.
March 1992

TheNocturnus
April 7, 2012, 11:07 AM
It's OK. Honest. Bottom-feeders are people, too!
1983

Thanks FlyFish!

dnsharpshooter
April 7, 2012, 12:12 PM
thanks!!

Speedy9
April 10, 2012, 03:51 PM
Hello. I just purchased a beautiful Model 67. 38 special, 4+" barrel.
The serial number is CNX62xx.

I would appreciate any information you might have regarding this gun, especially when it was manufactured.

Thanks.

laytonj1
April 10, 2012, 04:40 PM
serial number is CNX62xx
Book only covers up to 2004. CNX is after that.
A call to S&W's customer service will get you the DOB over the phone for free.

S&W
1-800-331-0852 (USA)
Mon-Fri 8:00AM-8:00PM Eastern Time

That said, the model 67 is the stainless version of the older model 15. Both are excellent guns.

Jim

Speedy9
April 10, 2012, 06:55 PM
Thanks, Jim.

I will call them tomorrow.

I have no experience with S&W guns, but, I know when I am holding a quality piece. I really like this gun.

Thanks again for the information.

hoytinak
April 10, 2012, 10:40 PM
nevermind....forgot, you gave it to me before on here. :o

zealant
April 11, 2012, 12:25 AM
Hello everyone,
Looking at my grandfathers old revolver. Butt of the gun has S 1204. In side the frame it shows 44626. I have been reading through the threads, but don't see many references to the lower number S's. I have attached a picture of the butt S#. No luck with the smaller number, camera won't zoom clearly.

I will swing by amazon next and see about one of the books mentioned in the threads.

Just looking for dates, or any info on this old beauty.
Thanks all, great site!

FlyFish
April 11, 2012, 06:11 AM
It's very difficult to work with just a serial number. Can you provide additional information, such as: caliber, number of chambers, barrel length, etc., as well as a few photos of the entire gun?

harry64
April 11, 2012, 07:51 AM
Hallo everyone, i need some informations about the date of production of a S&W 29 serial number S2204xx.
Regards

FlyFish
April 11, 2012, 09:27 AM
S&W 29 serial number S2204xx

1961-62 (in this case, almost certainly 1961). The SN range was 220000 to 227999.

lesgeaux
April 11, 2012, 06:20 PM
I would like a date for a model 10-7 serial #9D49979 if possible.

I would also like to know if the serial number on the inside of the (crane?) is supposed to match the one one the grip frame?

Thank you

mavracer
April 11, 2012, 07:51 PM
K22 masterpiece sn K326XX

FlyFish
April 11, 2012, 09:11 PM
I would like a date for a model 10-7 serial #9D49979 if possible.

I would also like to know if the serial number on the inside of the (crane?) is supposed to match the one one the grip frame?

1982 - the SN range was from 9D44501 to 17D8900. Are you referring to the area on the frame that's exposed when you swing the cylinder out? That's referred to as the frame cutout, and if there is a serial number there (in the form, for that model and time period, of a 7-digit alphanumeric with a D in it or perhaps a three letter plus 4 number combo) then it should match what's on the butt, but there may be other numbers stamped in that area that have no significance.

K22 masterpiece sn K326XX

1948 - the range was K18732 to K73121.

lesgeaux
April 11, 2012, 10:09 PM
Thanks Flyfish :D

On the part you describe and I was guessing at it reads:

3D
31651

So i am wondering if this part is original to the revolver. Would you have an opinion?

mavracer
April 11, 2012, 10:31 PM
1948 - the range was K18732 to K73121.
Thanks FlyFish. My dad seemed to think it was older. It belonged to his best friends dad. Dad thought he carried it when he worked the railroads in the late 30s and early 40s. guess it must have been something else.

laytonj1
April 12, 2012, 05:06 PM
Greetings all. S1204
The "S" is not original to the serial number.
As FlyFish noted, we need more info and/or pictures to help you.

Jim

FlyFish
April 12, 2012, 05:28 PM
Lesgeaux - if I understand correctly it sounds like you have two different SNs stamped on the frame, and that's got me stumped. Jim, do you have any thoughts?

laytonj1
April 13, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jim, do you have any thoughts?
I'm pretty sure the 3D----31651 are assembly and inspection numbers.
The number on the underside of the grip butt is the standard serial number location. During the 80's/90's S&W sometimes also stamped the SN in the yoke cutout location but it would have been a single line. That, and having two completely different SN's is very unlikely.

Jim

futurecop28
April 15, 2012, 10:33 AM
Hello Everyone,
I recently picked up a model 60-3 in great condition but without any of the original packaging or anything like that. I was hoping to get a little more info on the gun and it appears I have found the right place.
Serial # BEU52xx
Thanks in advance guys

ELarsen
April 15, 2012, 07:23 PM
Two S&W I'd like to know the year of manufacture, please.

I have a Model 29-2, N 148237 and Model 27-3, AVA 5830

laytonj1
April 15, 2012, 07:43 PM
Serial # BEU52xx
Somewhere between Dec. 89 and Mar. 90.
The model 60 is built on the J frame and is the stainless version of the model 36. In 1996 S&W went to the J "magnum" frame and started chambering then in 357 magnum also.

Model 29-2, N 148237 and Model 27-3, AVA 5830
N148237 = 1973.
AVA5830 = 1987.

Jim

Wolverine64
April 16, 2012, 02:28 PM
Can someone please help date a Smith and Wesson pistol I got from my father, he's been dead about 25 years. It's a 38 Special, ser # 343xxx . Any help would be great.

FlyFish
April 16, 2012, 03:30 PM
It's a 38 Special, ser # 343xxx .

With that caliber and serial number it's a .38 Military and Police Model of 1905 - 4th Change, one of the series of predecessors to what's now manufactured as the Model 10. Unfortunately, yours falls into a wide range of possible dates with insufficient information for exact dating: 1915 (at SN 241704) to 1942 (at SN 700000). You can interpolate with that information to get an approximate date, but it will only be approximate.

Your M&P, by the way, is close to the approximate SN at which heat-treating of cylinders began (316648), at which point the guns are supposedly safe to fire with .38 Special +P ammo. However, there's a lot of differing opinion on whether the early heat treating was really done properly, and although I'm no expert in this area I'd strongly advise against using +P in this gun, assuming that you're planning to fire it at all.

pdbertb
April 16, 2012, 03:45 PM
Have 3 to check
Model 29 ALB 40xx
Model 41 TBD64xx
Model 617 BHL41xx

Thank you for this great resource!

FlyFish
April 16, 2012, 04:28 PM
Here ya go -

Model 29 ALB 40xx
November 1985

Model 41 TBD64xx
1987

Model 617 BHL41xx
1991

ithaca66
April 16, 2012, 07:56 PM
Just picked up a S&W 586 Ser# AAL9862 Can some one help me date it. Thanks in advance.
Dan