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armedandsafe
December 24, 2007, 09:31 PM
We hear, every once in awhile, someone say they don't carry unless they think they will be someplace where it is "likely" they will need it. Well, this guy didn't need it until he got back home.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/updates/story/237410.html
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Police say homeowner shot, killed intruder

Ian Demsky; The News Tribune
A Kent homeowner shot and killed a suspected intruder Saturday evening, Kent police reported Sunday.
Police released few details of the incident beyond saying the residents arrived at a home in the 26000 block of 106 Avenue SE at 6 p.m. and found an intruder.

Multiple gunshots were fired and only the intruder was injured. The intruder died at the scene. Police said the identity of the intruder was unknown. No one has been arrested.

Pops

Playboypenguin
December 24, 2007, 10:04 PM
I do always carry.

wolfdog45
December 24, 2007, 10:06 PM
I carry everytime I'm out. And when I'm home I alway's have a gun close by.

hoytinak
December 24, 2007, 10:14 PM
Yep, I always carry.

Mags
December 24, 2007, 10:22 PM
carry about 80% of the time. Not practical to carry at work. Usually carry out to public places.

IdahoG36
December 24, 2007, 10:36 PM
I carry everywhere unless it's prohibited.

kgpcr
December 25, 2007, 12:48 AM
I carry alot but not all the time. Depends on where i am going

Jay1958
December 25, 2007, 12:51 AM
I carry everywhere that I legally can. I rarely enter or leave home unarmed.

Edward Nigma
December 25, 2007, 01:00 AM
I carry every time I'm out and about.

Texasdoc
December 25, 2007, 01:15 AM
I carry everyday, the only time I don't is when I go to courthouse to get paperwork done for the lawyer.But its in the truck close by if needed.

Doc

joab
December 25, 2007, 01:19 AM
Truthfully I almost never carry
My uniform and the work I do makes it very difficult
But there has been a gun in my glovebox for over thirty years

Thunderhawk88
December 25, 2007, 01:53 AM
About 95% of the time.

AdamSean
December 25, 2007, 02:35 AM
I carry at all times. I have even had friend jest me for carrying to church. But look what happened at that church recently. You never know when something bad may happen where you will have to defend yourself or those around you. I would rather be safe than sorry.

rampage841512
December 25, 2007, 10:09 AM
Yes.

orionengnr
December 25, 2007, 10:27 AM
Yep...

EJJR
December 25, 2007, 10:30 AM
Maybe I do, maybe I don't. :D

trader vic
December 25, 2007, 11:01 AM
I carry all the time, to work, to church, everywhere. The 1st rule of gunfighting is, have a gun. I was also a Boy Scout & our motto was, Be Prepared. You cannot make an appointment for an emergency. NRA PATRON LIFE MEMBER

matthew temkin
December 25, 2007, 12:59 PM
About 50% of the time.
The older I get the more cumbersome it gets.

Dwight55
December 25, 2007, 01:22 PM
I have to say "Most of the time" because there are days when I don't.

But one of the big reasons I do carry is simply the return trip into the house. I have always been very much afraid of interrupting a burglary in progress at my house, . . . and would really hate to have that happen and be unarmed also.

Most of the days I "don't" also coincide with days someone is at home all day.

May God bless,
Dwight

Tanzer
December 25, 2007, 02:39 PM
Maybe I do, maybe I don't.
+1, and I might wear it around the house, too, so I don't have to "lunge for it". My wife might think it's silly to wear it with sweats, but she might sometimes be in condition white.

tshadow6
December 25, 2007, 02:42 PM
I carry all the time.

gordo_gun_guy
December 25, 2007, 03:17 PM
I try to carry as much as possible; unfortunately I can't carry to work on a military reservation. Ironic really. But I don't go out for dinner/errands without packing. Likewise with jogging and yardwork.

I used to hate pushing the jogging stroller, until I realized I could ditch the .380 in the belly band for a real gun.:D

FM12
December 25, 2007, 05:25 PM
About 2/3 of the time I do, and 2/3 of the time I don't.:confused:

Been carrying more since the mall shooting, and the VT massacree.;)

Mostly when with my family.:cool:

YounGun24
December 25, 2007, 06:23 PM
I carry when I can, usually out in public. Around the house, I keep a gun close, and when I can't carry, it's in my glovebox.

10-96
December 25, 2007, 07:03 PM
unfortunately I can't carry to work on a military reservation. Ironic really.
I always thought that was odd also. The years I spent in the barracks- I swear they even questioned fellers about what their intentions were with tool kits or tool boxes. Granted, I saw a great number of soldiers who had absolutely no business with a firearm- but we all weren't cut of that cloth. It has always been my firm belief that firearms should not be made to seem so (foreign, odd, strange, mysterious, dangerous whatever word fits). That's why there are so many ND's (me thinks)- because some folks are too scared of the thing to use their full faculties of common and safe sense.

As to the thread- I can't think of any place I've gone that I haven't carried.

fastbolt
December 25, 2007, 07:25 PM
Do you carry every time you go out?

Short answer?

No.

Shooter 973
December 25, 2007, 07:47 PM
Yep, even carried a couple of times when I was going places that said "NO GUNS". Haven't had a problem yet, but then I'm willing to have a problem if it is required. :eek:
Sorry I'm not a law breaker normally, but a couple of times it's happened with out my knowledge that I've carried where I wasn't supposed to. Like Malls or such that don't get my business any more.:(

Benzene
December 25, 2007, 09:13 PM
It's easy - even asinine - to moralize about the legality of carrying at those "NO GUNS" locations. [Shooter 973, like in your case, such places "don't get my business any more" either.] What places could be "holier" than churches? Yet, churches are NOT immune from encounters wherein guns could serve lifesaving [and thus soul-saving] purposes.

What's wrong with a decent, responsible citizen carrying a gun CONCEALED?

allenomics
December 25, 2007, 10:03 PM
I don't carry often. In my state (Florida) you can't carry in places like bars, post offices, federal, state, local government buildings, schools, etc.

2cooltoolz
December 25, 2007, 11:57 PM
I carry 50% of the time I'm out of the house. I work at a federal installation and it is bad juju to get caught at the guard shack carrying. They do random auto and wand searches, so I'm on the road a big part of every day "naked".

Seeker
December 26, 2007, 12:43 AM
You Bet!

I carry *legally of course) each time I leave the my property (10 acres 10 miles from town). I also carry most of the time around my land. Sidearm only weighs a couple of pounds, and the only times I have wished for a sidearm were the times I didn't have one.

handlebar
January 2, 2008, 09:45 PM
simple answer->YES!

38splfan
January 2, 2008, 10:00 PM
I'm in the Army. Can't carry on post.

Any other time I carry wherever it is legal, and in most places where they have a reasonable gray area, too.

I won't do anything blatantly illegal, but shootings happen in the strangest places anymore, and I (and those around me) will not be helpless.

Erik
January 2, 2008, 11:05 PM
"Do you carry every time you go out?"

Yes, unless I plan on drinking in advance, a rare (5-10 times a year) event these days.

CrazyIvan007
January 3, 2008, 02:07 AM
Silly Wabbit...

Do you go into a public restroom and NOT wash your hands on the way out? EEK!

...No, we don't need any Larry Craig jokes...:p

I carry it when I go to get my mail...and everywhere else. Ever heard of being attacked by a dog or a mugger when getting the mail? It can happen.

Niantician
January 3, 2008, 02:18 AM
No, I find myself ending up at a friends house having a few beers often, so I don't carry at night much. The gun only comes out for daytime errands, or mall trips. The one time I always carry at night is when I go see a movie. To think of a bunch of people caged like rats with some crazy guy or a terrorist armed with hi-cap mags walking in scares me. It's a perfect spot to kill a lot of people.

chris in va
January 3, 2008, 02:35 AM
The *only* time I don't is at home, and even then I have it on my about half the time.

I have been bowling a lot lately. It really scares me to think how population dense it can be in a place like that with very few exits. Heck, maybe I'd just run and do the slip-n-slide down the lane and scramble out the pinsetter.:p

DWARREN123
January 3, 2008, 07:46 AM
I can not carry at work and I use facilities on Ft. Campbell, KY and they is no carry there and a couple of other places. I try my best to stay within the law.

A little rant, the U.S. Military/government is the most anti-gun/anti-self defense organization I can think of! I know, I am retired ARMY and find it so retarded, no not retarded just stupid!

CrazyIvan007
January 3, 2008, 10:00 AM
A little rant, the U.S. Military/government is the most anti-gun/anti-self defense organization I can think of! I know, I am retired ARMY and find it so retarded, no not retarded just stupid!

Crap runs downhill. They start at the top (govt. employees/contractors) and work their way down to every-day Americans and public.

I am sure one day all of America will be "gun free" .... well, for the law-abiding citizens anyway.

G&G
January 3, 2008, 10:15 AM
Can't carry at work but I'll carry about 80% of the time after working hours. The possibility of coming home to an intruder has me considering keeping my gun locked in my car even if it is on company property. :barf:

Para Bellum
January 5, 2008, 08:11 AM
I carry outside and at home and on the job: 24/7.
6 people I know became victims of burglars while they were at home.

"Your safe at home" is a very common mistake. Ask yourself why you should be safe at home and you soon realize that there is no gound for that assumption.

Mannlicher
January 5, 2008, 06:25 PM
If I leave the house, then I am armed. Every time.

fastbolt
January 5, 2008, 07:25 PM
Well, I can't recall anybody ever implying that the world was necessarily a 'safe' place ...

However, while Prudence and Paranoia may both start with the letter 'P', I can't think of much else they have in common. ;)
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/prudence
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/paranoia

The possibility of coming home to an intruder ...

Just my thoughts ... but while being surprised after having already entered a home without any indication of an intruder being present is one thing, having some advance indication before entering may be something else ...

FWIW, I've received some degree of training when it comes to searching and clearing residential/commercial structures and properties. I get frequent opportunities to practice these skills in the course of my LE duties, too.

At work I have additional resources available on a daily basis for such situations ... in the form of a partner, additional units (plainclothes & uniformed), K-9's and even mutual aid (should it merit more resources than available in any one agency at any particular time). Like many cops, I've been called to assist outside agencies in such circumstances, too.

I generally have more equipment available during working hours, too.

Naturally, like most other folks who think of such things, I've considered my reaction to returning home and finding indications of my home having been forcibly entered.

Unless I heard my wife inside calling for help, or had reason to believe she was actually inside and in immediate need of help, I'd call in the local agency and let them do their thing. They have resources similar to mine when I'm working, none of which I have at hand when I arrive home, in another jurisdiction.

Since the question was just Do you carry every time you go out?, I'll skip the what-if's of remaining home ...

Since I'm not required to remain armed off-duty, however, and there are still situations and circumstances in which I feel I do not feel it necessary, appropriate or simply desirable to be armed on my own time ... there are times when I choose not to go out armed.

This doesn't mean my usual awareness is in any way degraded or lessened, however, or that my ability to react strategically or tactically is completely neutered.

armedandsafe
January 5, 2008, 08:38 PM
There is much good discussion on this thread. More than I anticipated, actually. Thanks, all.

Pops

Daniel964
January 6, 2008, 12:59 PM
If I take the dog out or the trash out I have my G26 on me. I'm slowly getting my wife into that mindset also. So yes. If I step outside the door I'm armed and so is the wife.

I can't carry at work but they have no problem with it being in my car. One of my boses has CCW. Another wants to get hers. I've taken her shooting before and she likes it.

X-RAY
January 6, 2008, 01:37 PM
Yes. I may forget my wallet when i go out....NEVER my sidearm.

YZR
January 6, 2008, 02:24 PM
The only time I don't carry is at the gym in the morning. Besides that, if I leave the house I have on of my escorts with me.

gordo_gun_guy
January 7, 2008, 08:34 AM
Yes. I may forget my wallet when i go out....NEVER my sidearm.

...because my permit is in my wallet.;)

jabotinsky
January 7, 2008, 10:15 PM
hardly ever.

Derius_T
January 8, 2008, 09:14 AM
If you see me outside my house, I'm armed. No if's. If the problem comes up that I must enter an "official" building, its safely secured in the vehicle in the proper manner. As for those idiot "gun free" zones like stores and malls, what they don't know might save my life, or theirs.....church is not a problem, I come from the country. Most everyone has grown up with firearms in one form or another.

obxned
January 8, 2008, 08:34 PM
Yes and no. I always have my common sense and situaltional awareness with me, almost always a knife or two, and often a pistol. I try to match my preparedness to the threat level.

copenhagen
January 8, 2008, 08:41 PM
Carolina boy stuck in Cali.... Can't get a permit here for love nor money. Is it worth not being able to buy firearms legally again or destroying my career to carry? Tough question, because my life and the lives of those that love are on the other end of it... Course how much of a life will I have and how can I take care of loved ones if I got busted? Hard to figure why they make it so hard . . .

gamboolman
January 8, 2008, 08:47 PM
I am carrying if I am awake, including while at home.

I am always amused/amazed by the clairvoyant people who apparently know when they need to carry and when it is OK to leave the CCW at home.
Carry 24/7 or guess right.

I will respect 30.06 posted signs and obey the law(s). We try to not shop at business's that post legal 30.06 signs.

Derius_T
January 10, 2008, 10:31 AM
to copenhagen, if you can, move out of cali. I don't think I could live in a state that would not allow me the freedom to protect my family. I know that may not be a realistic option, but it is something to consider. And I would write all my respective state and local gubmint critters and tell them WHY.

As for the posted no gun signs, some are just tiny little gun with a circle around it crossed out stickers, that are often posted very inconspicuously, and I just "didn't see those, oops."

As far as the "more official looking" signs that state except as otherwise allowed by law" yada, yada, whatever, does having an official government permit, issued by the state, make ME "otherwise allowed by law"?

And of course, banned places on the list, like schools, ect, I never carry in. That would be in direct violation of the letter of the law.

copenhagen
January 10, 2008, 10:46 AM
Derius T, plan on moving out of California as soon as possible. Unfortunately, I do not have a choice at this time. My plan is to move back to SC. I have written a few of the state legislatures here and recieved no reply, so got a bit disheartened. I try to do everything the right way, but it seems discouraging when the system is so.. Well it is like having a conversation with a rock I think.

prairieviper
January 10, 2008, 10:57 AM
Nope, not always. There is more to being prepared than carrying a gun and I'm confident that I make the right choices for my own circumstances.

rantingredneck
January 10, 2008, 10:59 AM
I rarely enter or leave home unarmed.

Me too. If someone breaks into my house while I'm away and then breaks into my safe, which, lets be honest, given enough time (like an 8 hour workday) any safe is vulnerable, then said person will be better armed than me. That doesn't mean I'm going in the door guns ablaze if I find a strange vehicle in my driveway upon returning home. But, at least I'll be armed while the police are getting there.

I rarely go to places on the "do not carry" list and when I do I tend to park elsewhere and leave my gun in my vehicle.

Rogueone
January 10, 2008, 11:44 AM
copenhagen, come to VA, we still have open carry laws :)

as for me, I am only unarmed when I'm in bed, unless otherwise prohibited.

For those who are unable, or choose not to, carry 24/7, I can only say I hope if you are ever in a "situation", it's not one of those times you couldn't/didn't carry. I only know how bad I'd feel if I were unable to stop a crazed person because I wasn't armed at the time, and would not wish that on anyone.

I only started carrying after the VT massacre, and put a lot of thought into it. As a Christian, doesn't my feeling the need to "protect myself" from harm mean I don't trust God to keep me safe, as He has for 40 years? And I have to answer that a Yes, if I carry because I'm afraid. But as I thought more on it, I realized it's not so much myself, but those around me who are too blind to realize we are to be our brothers keepers, so if I have the training, skill set, mental attitude, etc., to be willing to save a stranger in need, should I not do that? And moreover, if I were out and about, but not carrying, and something like the kid who walked into the Omaha mall happened, and I could only cower whilst others were shot down, how terrible would I feel for the rest of my life??? That is why I carry. I don't have clairvoyance, and I'll never know when it might be needed. I don't expect anything to happen at home, I have both a dog and a security system, but just is case, I have my gun on me (also, if it's on me, there is ZERO chance of one of the kids touching it) and it teaches my kids awareness and makes them extremely comfortable around guns. I even bought them some air guns to practice with (they are only 9/7/2) at this point.

I am an NRA member and a VCDL (Va Citizens Defense League) member. VCDL does weekly updates on what's going on within the state legislatively, as well as Letter's to the Editor on gun topics, etc., and stories in papers around the country where a gun owner protected themselves or others, or stories of people unprotected and how terrible harm was done to them because they had no preparation. I have to say that those weekly updates have been the most eyeopening thing for me that made me realize the scope of the 2nd Amendment. Even if you are not in VA, if you like reading about government attempts to intrude and citizens steps to fight back, as well as being aware of what the anti gunners are doing, it's a really good newsletter. Check them out at vcdl.org

gamboolman
January 12, 2008, 09:51 PM
If I am awake, I am carrying. At home or out and about it does not matter.

I do not have one of the future seeing devices that alot of clairvoyant people apparently have - they can predict when crimes are likely to occur as they only carry at certain times. Amazing stuff !

Playboypenguin
January 12, 2008, 09:53 PM
Just my two cents worth...people that say " I only carry when I think I will need it" strike me as funny because that sounds like saying "I only try to foresee the unforeseeable."

Derius_T
January 13, 2008, 03:22 PM
Copenhagen: The whole state is corrupt. I seriously doubt you will get anywhere, but at least you know you wrote them and tried. I really have to give props to Ohio. I wrote a letter to our attorney general, and he responded quickly, and you could tell it wasn't a "one-size-fits-all" letter. What REALLY blew me away, after several letters, he actually CALLED ME! I actually got a call one day, and he was like "Hello, how are you, this as Jim Petro. I have been reading your letters and understand you have some questions? How can I help?"

Those may not have been the exact words, but that was the gist of it. I was literally blown away. What a kick ass AG. :eek::D

Derius_T
January 13, 2008, 03:29 PM
RantingRedNeck wrote:

I rarely go to places on the "do not carry" list and when I do I tend to park elsewhere and leave my gun in my vehicle.

You know, I used to do that too, then I started wondering that one, what would happen if in trouble between store and truck? What then?

(Like the lady in the Kroger's where my wife works. It was close to xmas, and these punks waited in the parking lot for the right person, and one would innocently distract the person, while another punk would run or drive up and literally rip the purses off of usually older ladies. One lady got caught in her purse strap, and was dragged across the parking lot for nearly 100 feet. SHE WAS 70ish!!!!! The bastards were never caught, and it didn't even make the news! :mad::mad:)

Also, I always worry, what if I leave my gun in my truck/car, and someone steals my vehicle? I have inadvertently suplied a criminal with MY GUN! I just can't bring myself to leave a firearm in a vehicle anymore.

Derius_T
January 13, 2008, 03:33 PM
Rogueone: I understand some of your reasoning as a Christian. But for me personally, I look at it like this, God often told people to take up arms and do this or that in the bible, and I seem to remember something about preserving your own life, unless losing your life would somehow glorify him. I'm not real sure on that, but I will look it up. (And a sword isn't really that far off than a gun, its just what they had available at the time)

Socrates
January 13, 2008, 06:16 PM
Derius T:

I agree with all of your comments.

My perspective is the one time I'll need some form of protection, I won't have it.

I recently was doing a kids basketball game, 3-4th graders, and, I was calling a game by myself. I called about 10 fouls on each team, in the first half. A very strong, thick, over 220 pounds, blackman came up to me, one of the coaches for one of the teams, and in a very aggressive manner said I was trying to control the game, and, veiled the threat of physical violence behind very hostile words. I listened, then said,
"We'll start the second half with a technical foul on blue's coach."
And walked over to find the supervisor. The guy followed me, started screaming, and, slammed the ball off my toe.
I told the supervisor to pay me, and, I'm going home. We switched games, and, the guy took off. The irony was a guy famous for carrying a .38 while refing, came into do the next game. He walked me out to the parking lot, but, we had no incident. The ONE time I needed my pepper spray container, I'd decided not to carry it, since I was wearing light shorts, and, it bounced around too much. I'll never make that mistake again...

I've yet to figure out how to run up and down a basketball court with a firearm...

rampage841512
January 13, 2008, 07:51 PM
Ask the ref carrying the .38

rantingredneck
January 13, 2008, 10:02 PM
You know, I used to do that too, then I started wondering that one, what would happen if in trouble between store and truck? What then?

(Like the lady in the Kroger's where my wife works. It was close to xmas, and these punks waited in the parking lot for the right person, and one would innocently distract the person, while another punk would run or drive up and literally rip the purses off of usually older ladies. One lady got caught in her purse strap, and was dragged across the parking lot for nearly 100 feet. SHE WAS 70ish!!!!! The bastards were never caught, and it didn't even make the news! )

Also, I always worry, what if I leave my gun in my truck/car, and someone steals my vehicle? I have inadvertently suplied a criminal with MY GUN! I just can't bring myself to leave a firearm in a vehicle anymore.

In a perfect world I agree with you. Problem is, this world (and in particular this state's carry laws) are not perfect. I have a choice of either carrying 100% of the time and risking a felony charge, not carrying at all on days I have to go to the "do not carry" places and risk not having my gun at a time I may need it, or risk leaving a weapon locked in my truck, with my truck parked in a non-prohibited place, and have it stolen. Unfortunately I'll go with option 3.

FireMax
January 14, 2008, 01:52 AM
But one of the big reasons I do carry is simply the return trip into the house. I have always been very much afraid of interrupting a burglary in progress at my house

That happened to me when I was 11 years old... my dad was away and my Mom and I came back from dinner... opened the door and saw the intruder go out the back door... fortunate for us as I am pretty sure my Mom wasn't packing back then. :D

skeeter1
January 14, 2008, 02:13 AM
I carry something all the time, but not necessarily a handgun. A little 2.5" folding knife goes in my pocket everywhere. No one has ever hassled me about it, as they might if I had a handgun. Just a thought.

gordo_gun_guy
January 14, 2008, 02:28 PM
I carry something all the time, but not necessarily a handgun. A little 2.5" folding knife goes in my pocket everywhere. No one has ever hassled me about it, as they might if I had a handgun. Just a thought.

On the one hand, the survivalist in me agrees you should never be without a knife, even when carrying a handgun, too. Absolutely critical for vehicle extrication, wilderness survival, and even simple household chores. I carry a knife almost always, and can carry one more places than a handgun, but there are still many places I go where even a small knife would cause a hassle; frequent flights, the post office, bars/nightclubs, etc. In some jurisdictions, carrying the smaller knife may be legal, but it could be considered assualt with an illegal deadly weapon if the knife is actually used in an altercation.

So I value knives for their utilitarian handiness, but I think the combat effectiveness per "unit of hassle" is much better for a handgun. Sure, I may be able to kill someone faster with a small blade than with a thumb in the eye socket or crushing their skull under my boot heel; and it's faster to slit someone's jugular than choke them out--but the knife doesn't extend my effectice combat range far enough to deter assorted nastiness....;)

Derius_T
January 14, 2008, 03:59 PM
Socrates, glad you were able to keep your cool in that instance.

As for carrying while running up and down a court, maybe a well fitting, secure vertical shoulder holster? I don't know, just a thought.

And Rantingredneck, I know what you are saying, but I ignore the little circle with slash no gun signs. (they are often posted improperly and easy to "miss" anyways)

As for the more "official" looking signs, I have asked this question a few times, and wish someone with better knowledge than me, like maybe one of our resident lawyers or Leo's could help out.

The signs in question always have some jargon about, "Unless otherwise allowed by law....yada, yada" or something similar. Well, my question is, does the fact that I have a state issued permit, make me "otherwise allowed by law"? The language on the signs does not lead one to believe it only speaks of leos, as it makes no specific mention. Does anyone have any idea?

It stands to reason that having a state permit makes us "allowed by law", but I realize laws very seldom stand to reason.....

rantingredneck
January 14, 2008, 06:01 PM
As for the more "official" looking signs, I have asked this question a few times, and wish someone with better knowledge than me, like maybe one of our resident lawyers or Leo's could help out.

The signs in question always have some jargon about, "Unless otherwise allowed by law....yada, yada" or something similar. Well, my question is, does the fact that I have a state issued permit, make me "otherwise allowed by law"? The language on the signs does not lead one to believe it only speaks of leos, as it makes no specific mention. Does anyone have any idea?

It stands to reason that having a state permit makes us "allowed by law", but I realize laws very seldom stand to reason.....

The signs and what force of law stands behind them varies from state to state. In NC, if there's a sign, it carries the full weight of law behind it. There are also prohibited places that don't have to have signage to be prohibited (banks, PO's, Govt buildings, etc.) Not sure about where you are.

Derius_T
January 15, 2008, 06:58 PM
Yeah, I am familiar with the areas that are off limits no matter what, but was just wondering about the signs. Does the wording include us, or exclude us? I will have to call the AG's office I guess, as most of the local police are even less sure of the carry laws than your average citizen.

TheNatureBoy
January 17, 2008, 05:25 PM
I almost never carry.

Th0r
January 17, 2008, 07:26 PM
No. Where I live, sadly there is no such thing as a CCW where I live. I use legal self defence items to defend myself instead of guns. If there was a CCW available I would get one, and carry a weapon everywhere I went other than places where it would not be practical or safe to use/carry a firearm. For example at a job interview I would not carry a gun, but in a shopping mall I would.

I would want a firearm to defend myself and others because of the high rate of preventable deaths and injuries that occur in Europe and the United States.

ibfestus
January 17, 2008, 07:42 PM
I feel I may be in harms way.

Covert Mission
January 17, 2008, 07:57 PM
No, and I'm not proud of it! I get lazy or distracted. I'm working on it.

Th0r
January 18, 2008, 01:43 PM
In the USA would you ever be allowed to take a gun into a college even as a self defence weapon?
I mean looking at the statistics of spree murderers, where your gun could mean life or death for tens of lives, the most likely place thats going to occur is your college or other educational building.
But in 2007 there were about 3 shooting incidents in a mall, and thats the most likely place that I would have to use it.

mvpel
January 18, 2008, 02:17 PM
Most colleges, in states where it's not prohibited by law, forbid their students and staff from carrying via contractual restrictions - you agree as a condition of enrollment or employment that if you carry, you are subject to expulsion or termination.

Here in New Hampshire, people who are not affiliated with the college or university, and not subject to the contractual disarmament, are not prohibited from carrying on campus due to RSA 154:26, the statewide preemption law.

Derius_T
January 21, 2008, 01:53 PM
I would hope with the recent string of college and mall shootings that someone pulls their head out of their hind quarters and starts looking at carry laws as they pertain to those places.

Socrates
January 21, 2008, 05:47 PM
Just the reverse. Now, at sporting events at our local high school, and colleges, they metal detect with wands, for weapons. This ensures that between your car, and the event, you have no weapons for defense, coming or going.

macsr01
January 22, 2008, 02:30 PM
I always carrry unless I am at a Federal Trial or similar place. The judges usually dont like a lot of firearms floating around nside their court rooms.

Laserlips
January 22, 2008, 02:52 PM
Of course, why not?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_6811_01.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_8017.jpg


House & car keys in right front pocket..

Wallet in right back pocket..

LWS in Hedley wallet holster in left back pocket... (I'm a lefty)


Fire up the Harley Mama, lets go to Wally World!...:D


JP

TripIII
January 24, 2008, 11:18 PM
I have no criminal record (that's worth something), I paid my $90 for CCW class, my $100 for my CCW permit, my $800 for the 45 of my choice, my $20 for good personal defense rounds, my $75 initiation fee to the range, my $25 range maintenance fee, my $60 for 2-year NRA membership, $110 yearly range membership fee, a bunch of dollars for training ammo on a continual basis...

...You bet I carry everywhere (it's legal), just like my (empty) wallet!

Stevie-Ray
January 25, 2008, 02:28 PM
I go armed with at least my P32 at all times unless prevented by law.

CGSteve8718
January 25, 2008, 05:04 PM
85%

Or, I carry so much that I thought I was carrying today, when I actually wasn't. Good thing nothing happened.

zxd9
January 30, 2008, 03:08 PM
GA has a lot a weird restrictions on where you can carry. That being said, I carry whenever/wherever it is legal.

vox rationis
January 30, 2008, 10:02 PM
I always carry when I'm out and about, except at work that is a strict "gun free zone", that, as we all know, translates into: "attention to all criminals and would be killers: this is a target rich environment full of defenseless people that are totally vulnerable to your attack". :(

usaf207cwf
January 30, 2008, 11:02 PM
80 percent

Cellfone
January 31, 2008, 02:38 AM
Yes. I carry every time I go out.

MACVSOG
January 31, 2008, 10:18 AM
You're really a lucky guy;

In my country a 45 cost around $1,000 plus 7% of taxes.
Then start the process for be authorized to have a gun cost around $500. The CCW permit is an extra money...usually another
$500.:(

Night Watch
January 31, 2008, 11:24 AM
:) Always! Often with 2 or 3 pistols, too. (My wife's got one!) ;)

Yes, when you own firearms you always have to come home, 'carefully'! Whenever we approach the house I begin to scope out the property from, at least, 100 yards out. Before we park, the seat belts are already removed; the interior dome light is deliberately turned off; and, the engine isn't shutdown until after the vehicle's doors are opened.

(My next door neighbor was attacked and shot last year. I had some trouble, too; but, I was luckier than him. It should be; it used to be; but, it isn't the best of neighborhoods, anymore.) :(

We don't go up the walkway together in order to approach the front door; instead, we move separately. Upon arrival home, and especially at night, I'm always on high alert. Were we to be attacked, we have several pre-selected spots that could be used as cover.

I, also, know where all the places are that an attacker might try to hide! As we move forward my eyes will constantly range from one spot to the other. After the front door is unlocked if I don't see, at least, one of the cats standing there waiting for us, then, I KNOW I've got a problem! Which is, 'Why' the Pitbull is usually with us in the truck; and, I like to send her in first, anyway! :D

Perhaps it should be added that there is no such thing as being 100% safe. My neighbor owned a gun. He, also, had: a large guard dog, motion detectors, and outside security lights; but, he got shot anyway, and will now be carrying two of those 9mm slugs with him for the rest of his life.

What did he do wrong? He got comfortable and tended to put his guard down when he was at home. He also left a large, first floor, dining room window open; and, at 1:30 in the morning, that's what almost got him killed!

It's been about a year now; and, whoever shot him has, yet, to be caught. Not a good situation! :mad:

vox rationis
February 1, 2008, 09:37 PM
Holy smokes man that's a lot of stress to have to go through to get into your own home..have you thought about moving? Good tactics though, and I pity the fool that will try to victimize you though :D

jamaica
February 1, 2008, 11:49 PM
In the USA would you ever be allowed to take a gun into a college even as a self defence weapon?

In Utah you can legally carry in all schools. About the only places you can't carry are restricted areas, federal buildings and some churches.

Hmm, what was the original question? Oh ya, do you carry when you go out?

Yes! I just carry every day at home or elsewhere. Seldom do I need to go where it is restricted. The last time that happened, I was called to Federal Jury duty. I didn't carry in the court. In fact they had metal detectors at the door.

match308
February 2, 2008, 07:41 AM
75% of the time I carry. The other 25% of the time I enter restricted areas or go out and plan to have some alcohol intake. I feel somewhat guilty about the 75% and I fear that when I really need it, I may not have it. I carry various sharp things 100% of the time that could help me get to a more leathal option.

YZR
February 2, 2008, 09:20 AM
I always carry except for prohibited areas & the gym

Dwight55
February 2, 2008, 09:21 AM
+1, night watch

I am in the process of adding some better security measures to our place as the boogers are coming out of the inner city and hitting some of the outlaying places, . . . and mine is one they would like to hit (though, thank God, very few of them know it). We don't have much cash around, but if they got my gun safe, . . . I might be able to hear them whoop & holler if it wasn't too far away when they opened it.

I, too, am very careful approaching the house, . . . at least in orange alert, and sometimes in high red, . . . depending on what is going on.

Just wanted you to know you are not alone, . . . may God bless,
Dwight

Para Bellum
February 2, 2008, 12:25 PM
and24/7 at home. If you think you are safe (just) because you're at home - then think twice. I alone know 6 people who were robbed at their homes.

Stay safe,
PB

fat old gun nut
February 6, 2008, 07:29 PM
My carry pistol is so comfortable that I forget that I have it. Most recently--like last Sunday I was going into a Gun Show and over heard the cop asking if anyone had a gun or ammo cause the had to be strapped. It dawned on me I had my carry piece in my hip pocket. I had to retreat to my truck to leave it while I spent 3 hrs "shopping".:)

38SnubFan
February 8, 2008, 10:45 AM
I always carry when and where legal. I can forget my watch, sometimes forget the wallet (which is a big no-no since my LTCF is in it), but the gun is never forgotten. I've always been taught "better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it."

ECHOONE
February 16, 2008, 09:13 AM
Always

BikerRN
February 16, 2008, 12:10 PM
Unless I'm drinking alcoholic beverages out in public, yes, I am armed.

I don't even take the trash to the curb for "curbside pickup" without a gun on me. In fact, when I go to the shower I have a gun in the bathroom with me. Some people think I'm paranoid. What if someone broke in while I was in the shower? It would really suck to not be able to "greet them" appropriately.

I've seen too many "normal" situations go bad to trust my fellow man. If I knew I was going to need a gun I wouldn't go to that place if it could be avoided.

Biker

OJ
February 16, 2008, 01:22 PM
I agree with the BikerRN carrying all the time makes the same kind of sense as wearing a seat belt every time I drive and helmet/protective clothing while riding the bike. However remote the need for those safety devices might be, when one of them is needed it's NEEDED RIGHT NOW!!!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/kmastf/PISTOLS/VERSAMAXIIEDITED.jpg

:D

BloodyBucket03
February 18, 2008, 11:49 AM
I carry everytime I go out unless I have to go somewhere at which I am not permitted to carry.

bG38357
February 18, 2008, 11:57 AM
Hope I never need one, but always have one.

cmw2212
February 18, 2008, 12:52 PM
I am in agreement with Biker. My wife gives me a funny look as I walk by with my Ultra CDP and towel to take a shower. I am almost to the point where if I can't carry my gun with me I don't go there.

wyocarp
February 19, 2008, 02:10 AM
Most of the time.

WVnews
March 1, 2008, 09:49 PM
whenever Im not in a school or a courthouse, I've got a gun on me.


It's the nature of the business I'm in that I gotta be armed.

springmom
March 2, 2008, 04:49 PM
We were on our way to church recently (I was driving) and asked DH to hand me my sunglasses. He picked up my purse and said "you're carrying in your waistband".

"Huh? How did you know that?"

"Because it isn't in your purse." :D

Every single time when I go out, and at least 80% of the time at home. Home invasions, which statistically rare, happen way too often in this area for me to pretend "it could NEVER happen to me."

Springmom

Tomas
March 2, 2008, 07:54 PM
Yes, every time.

On the rare occassion that I am in a hurry and am not carrying, my Isuzu Trooper has a Glock 29 in a secret place, Mercedes SLK 280 has a Kahr 9mm, and Honda Accord has a Glock 19. I'll just tuck which ever in my waistband, and off I go.

Byron Quick
March 2, 2008, 08:39 PM
I never leave home without at least one pistol on me. There are also dedicated firearms in each vehicle.

I try not to get out of arm's reach of a firearm in the house but I need to get better at that.

I've got one pistol in my pocket as I sit here typing. I'm about to put my shoes on before going to the grocery store. I'll put a 1911 in the holster. Leave the house with two pistols and two knives.

If I think there might be trouble somewhere, I don't go there.

Sixpak
March 2, 2008, 08:57 PM
I carry every day and everywhere I am allowed to carry.

Deaf Smith
March 2, 2008, 10:54 PM
The only place I don't carry is where I work, and even then, my car isn't 10 yards from my cubical!

JoelG23
March 2, 2008, 11:15 PM
Do I carry every time? I did pay a good deal of money for my firearm as well for the permit. I took the class I practice and shoot often. For me to not carry would be a waste for money. The ONLY times I do not carry is when I KNOW I am going to the local drug store where it is posted not to carry, or the baseball game. I dont like keeping my weapon in my vehicle, many times has by truck been broken into, lucky never with my firearm. To make it easier mentaly for me, I have modified a safe that fits underneath my back seat and its bolted down by the seat bolts. I went to gander Mountain, bought a 45$ safe and cut about 6 inches off the top, re-welded the top back on and added bolting plates. Theo nly problem is if (and only 1 time has my vehicle been searched) I have to open it to show officers whats in it. And I do it gladly for my brothers in blue.

For someone else who has their firearm and permit and carries less that 70% of their time, is a waste. You NEVER know when you will need it. I do not care what people say. If you say, well I am just going to the to McDonalds why would I need it? Your an idiot. Criminals are called Criminals for a reason.

armedandsafe
March 2, 2008, 11:21 PM
I started this post to make the point about those who say "I don't carry if I'm going to a safe place." I did not anticipate the number of responses this post has received. I am pleased.

Thank you, all. Keep it up. :D

Pops

treo
March 3, 2008, 01:07 AM
As stated earlier, it cost time , effort & money to get my permit. Why would I NOT carry?

In my house the rule is we don't walk out the door W/ out a gun & I carry at home

guntotin_fool
March 3, 2008, 03:40 AM
Every where I am legal:rolleyes:


Do you put your seat belt on when you think your going to have an accident?

Do you pay your life insurance when you think you might be dying?

tegemu
March 3, 2008, 09:23 AM
YES.

Quick_Draw_McGraw
March 6, 2008, 05:36 PM
when the pants go on in the morning until they come off at night i am carring even when at home.

Super Dave
March 6, 2008, 07:13 PM
Yes

Shadi Khalil
March 6, 2008, 07:37 PM
I stopped carrying for a while (2 years ago) even then I only carried when I was with my girlfriend or whenever I decided too. Now I try and carry as much as I can, even sometimes around the house. I dont feel like I'm anymore danger than I was a few years ago, maybe the age and wisdom thing is true after all.....

Kreyzhorse
March 6, 2008, 08:48 PM
I carry on my person whenever possible. I can't carry at work, but I always have a handgun in the glovebox of my vehicle.

Hard Ball
March 6, 2008, 10:27 PM
I always carry something. Exactly what depends on my evaluation of the threat.