Decockers...and a warning

[chris in va]

Thought I'd throw this out as a 'lesson learned'.

Long story short, went to the range with my Sig 220. Shot a few, holstered it (my carry gun) and switched to my 22.

Get home to find the hammer back.:eek::eek:

Decock those suckers!

PS...no lectures please.

[ssilicon]

That's why guns that have the option of a real safety are nice. Nothing against Sigs though. I think they're fine guns.

[snail]

Well you don't want a lecture so....... you should have bought a Glock No decock to worry about.:p

P.S. I am glad you learned a valuble lesson without harming anything.

[Majic]

Maybe you should use less of the .22 and more of the 220.

[kristop64089]

at least you're safe.

[Silvanus]

That's why guns that have the option of a real safety are nice

Why would you forget the decocker but not the safety?

[hoytinak]

Anyone that handles weapons over time will make a mistake at some point....the key is learning from it. At least you caught it before something bad happened.

[SW40F]

Since you didn't violate Rule #3 (finger off the trigger) this was limited to an "aha!" moment.

And, we now know that a Sig won't fire unless the trigger is pulled. ;)

[jakeswensonmt]

Why would you forget the decocker but not the safety?

+1, thank you Silvanus.

From the subject line I thought this post was going to be about an ND from a decocker malfunction. Never seen one or known anyone who had one, but I still decock in a safe direction.

[kristop64089]

From the subject line I thought this post was going to be about an ND from a decocker malfunction. Never seen one or known anyone who had one, but I still decock in a safe direction.


Neither do I, but I own the one gun that is "notorious" for it...CZ(V)-52.

Because of this I always decock in a neutral direction.

[Fremmer]

I've done it before. :o Nothing like looking down at your holstered gun and realizing that you've been walking around with the darn hammer cocked....

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

Nothing wrong with the gun---only the operator.

[ohioleadslinger]

Well the P89 gets decocked all the time after cleaning and then loading up for carry. When I switch over to the XD I may very well sweep for that decocker and its not there, but no harm done since that finger is always on the frame no matter what I'm carring and never touches the trigger till it's want it to go bang time.

[chris in va]

Yup, that's why the gun safety laws work.

Finger off the trigger, it can be swept accidentally and be safe.

Finger on the trigger, pointed in a safe direction.

I'm just glad everything came together in this case. Something to learn from.

[Dwight55]

Yep, . . . unh huh, . . . we hooman beens ain't quite purfecteded yet, . . . so yes we do, . . . we make mistakes.

#1, . . . learn from them

#2, . . . share them that others may learn

#3, . . . don't worry about the hole in your living room floor where you had an ND, . . . it matches mine. But be glad like I am, . . . it was in a safe direction and the rug covers it (unless of course your son or wife wants to have a little fun at your expense):D:D

May God bless,
Dwight

[Sgt127]

So, basically, you found a Glock in your holster when you got home...:D

I used to carry a P220. But, I don't have any other guns that use a decocker, so, its not a good platform for me anymore, I KNOW I'll forget to decock it because its not a natural thing for me to do. I went with the DAK trigger.

No biggie, you had it in its holster. You'll be a little more vigilant in the future, nothing has an extra hole in it.

[brentfoto]

I think what happened here is TOTALLY forseeable. The only way around it is to clear the weapon at the end of a range session or to decock.

I guess one who is in LE and intends to keep loaded just has to get in the habit of decocking it at all times...similar to always checking the action of a semi-auto or revolver before handing it to another person.

In this case, the 'other person' is YOU! Make the sucker SAFE before holstering! Pretend that holster is the same as that 'other person' to whom you are handing the firearm...if not free and clear, then at least decocked.

Thanks for this thread.

[IMTHDUKE]

http://www.treasureislandbedandbreakfast.com/images/GUNS/p7_right.jpg

[grumpybutt]

So my CW .40

[WVfishguy]

All my semi autos are decockers 'cause I'm stupid.

I know I'll screw up if I own any other platform. I decock out of habit.

BTW - I'm stupid, but not a dumb ass.

The difference is: I know I'm stupid. A dumb ass is someone who is stupid, but does not know it. ;)

[vox rationis]

http://www.treasureislandbedandbreakfast.com/images/GUNS/p7_right.jpg

I've gotta get me one of these :)

[chris in va]

No doubt. One of the best 9mm I've ever shot.

[easyG]

Long story short, went to the range with my Sig 220. Shot a few, holstered it (my carry gun) and switched to my 22.

Get home to find the hammer back.

What lbs. trigger is on your Sig 220?

If it's more than 6 lbs. then it's just as safe as any Glock in the holster.:D

[KS.45]

This is something all should keep in mind when taking guns to the range. Different mechanics of the guns can cause one to unconsciously mess up.

I shoot Glocks, not the prettiest, not the most convenient grip for some people, but they are simple. Taking a Glock to the range along with a 1911 requires a little more concentration on what you are doing.

If I need to self-defend, simple goes with smooth to make speed for me. No second-thoughts about safetys or decockers with a Glock.

I like to keep my important things in life simple.

[chris in va]

What lbs. trigger is on your Sig 220?


That's a good question. I'm guessing 3-4 in SA mode?

[Ichiro]

This is a good argument in favor of guns with only one trigger pull. A Glock owner wouldn't be freaking out, even though his gun is in the same state as yours was.

[ohioleadslinger]

I think we all agree that if proper draw and re-holster technique is followed there shouldn't be any bad days.
Take a full day this weekend and draw and re-holster, Unloaded, never touching the trigger during the draw, until target sight picture is acquired then finger on trigger and squeeze, finger off to the frame and then re-holster, get started on that muscle memory.

Speed will increase and this simple basic fluid motion will be automatic.

I always sweep for that decocker when holstering, it is automatic for me but if that is an issue for others I would have to say don't carry but one pistol style.

[Stevie-Ray]

I leave my H&K USPC decocked. After cleaning and loading it I will take it outside to my deck and point it at the ground to decock. Years ago, I thought I was just being overly cautious because this was my first and only double action auto. Then I witnessed the cops in my local station pointing into a fire barrel and decocking, and I realized that although I trust my USPC implicitly, it is still a mechanical device and subject to failures as is any other mechanical device.

The double-action first shot doesn't seem to bother me at the range. I can only hope that if I ever need it in a crisis, it is the same.

[dgludwig]

It was part of our training regimen to decock after every shot or series of shots before even lowering the pistol for reholstering. Before long, the practice becomes "second nature", a good thing because you eventually do it out of a well-formed habit but a good thing that can become a bad thing if gun safety relies solely on good habits. Double check and triple check is the order of the day, coupled with the ultimate safeguards: keeping the weapon pointing in a safe direction and keeping your finger off the trigger until the instant of shooting.

HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!