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kingudaroad
November 12, 2007, 04:08 PM
You see, here in the hill country me and six other friends lease about 2000 acres for about $25,000 per year. The night before opening day we get drunk and party till about midnight. We get up around 5 am feeling pretty salty as you can imagine.
Then we drive our trucks or 4 wheelers up to our fully enclosed elevated blinds, get out our thermos of coffee and wait till its light enough to see. If the temperature were to drop below like 60 degrees we would of course crank up the propane heater.
Well, the feeders eventually go off and it gets light enough to see the deer at the feeders. I have two feeders at my stand and at first light saw at least a dozen different deer. But several others came and went over the course of the morning.
Had a great morning as the rut was on and the bucks were chasing the does and fighting with each other. I saw some big deer but not any that got me excited enough to shoot. Time to go back to camp for a big breakfast and a nap. And I need to remember to bring a couple of cold ones to the stand for the evening hunt.
What a great weekend! I didn't shoot any deer but did shoot a big sow hog on Sunday morning that got skinned and put in the cooler. Maybe next weekend I'll bring my boy up to shoot that ten pointer I passed on.

This post was inspired by those that trashed that kid for being excited about shooting that nice Texas buck a few threads back. If you don't like the way I hunt, who cares.

Tom Matiska
November 12, 2007, 06:15 PM
$25,000? ...ouch.... that comes out to almost $3600/hunter

Art Eatman
November 12, 2007, 06:20 PM
W.C. Fields suggested that the best way to avoid a hangover is to stay drunk.

Never argue with an expert.

Nickel coffee and twenty-cent gasoline and $300 deer leases. And $500/month salaries for graduate engineers.

It's just paper...

Art

castnblast
November 12, 2007, 06:31 PM
My lease was cheaper...didn't get drunk, but had a great time taking my 4 year old hunting. Had a blast sweating my @$$ off in the box blind. Got the little dude up at 4:15...He went all day, no nap. He passed out in the truck on the way home. We did blast a coyote, and my 4 year old had a good time catching catfish in the pond. Maybe when the acorns rot, we'll see some hogs and more deer. Had a few cold ones too. Great weekend. Gota love TX...

Double Naught Spy
November 12, 2007, 07:21 PM
You see, here in the hill country me and six other friends lease about 2000 acres for about $25,000 per year.

The night before opening day we get drunk and party till about midnight. We get up around 5 am feeling pretty salty as you can imagine.

Then we drive our trucks or 4 wheelers up to our fully enclosed elevated blinds,...

Rich, drunk, hungover, driving, and armed...y'all are the ones the game warden warned me about, I bet.

ActivShootr
November 12, 2007, 10:08 PM
Rich, drunk, hungover, driving, and armed...y'all are the ones the game warden warned me about, I bet.

LOL!!!!!

Yithian
November 12, 2007, 10:09 PM
Rich, drunk, hungover, driving, and armed...y'all are the ones the game warden warned me about, I bet.
Damn I wish I was there.
I havn't had fun like that since I was a kid.

Wildalaska
November 12, 2007, 10:50 PM
The night before opening day we get drunk and party till about midnight. We get up around 5 am feeling pretty salty as you can imagine.

Thats so lame.........:cool:

Amateurs. No one puked in another guys boots. Nobody forgot their gun. The poker game ended at midnight, no one fell into the bonfire (actaully diving in while screaming), someones dog didnt eat all the chili and smores then puke that up, no dirty sweatsocks stuffed into the mouth of the guy that snored too much, you all were capable of driving and all of you were present the next morning (ie you didnt lose one guy then spend two hours looking for him and find him passed out bare*ssed in the outhouse)

Punk kids.:mad: Opening day is for recovery, you shoot the deer the next day.

:)

WildandalloftheforegoingisatruecompilationAlaska TM

BillCA
November 13, 2007, 12:42 AM
Wild,

You forgot to mention having sleep in the trailer or tent with "Butch" the old hunter who ate broccoli and crab cakes for dinner and washed 'em down with Pabst.

No one mentioned being stuck in the blind with the one guy who forgets his glasses or who's eyes are still watering (maybe from sleeping in Butch's tent)... who keeps squinting and whispering "zat a deer?" every time something moves.

Or worse yet, the guy who's so hung over he pukes not only in the blind, but all over the ATV on the way back to camp.

Or the guy nearby in a tree stand with a bladder the size of a walnut who can't stop fidgeting.

Art Eatman
November 13, 2007, 09:15 AM
If you work it right, the whiskey drinkers and poker players will happily let you kill their deer for them--so they'll have something to take home to Momma to prove they weren't just drinking whiskey and playing poker. (Or, in some parts of Texas, driving across the river to Mexico, to Boys' Town.)

You can wind up invited to some good leases, that way...

:D:D:D

Art

kingudaroad
November 13, 2007, 12:13 PM
Or, in some parts of Texas, driving across the river to Mexico, to Boys' Town.

That has never ever happened Art. Let me repeat myself so it's perfectly clear. THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED!

Wildalaska
November 13, 2007, 01:29 PM
That has never ever happened Art. Let me repeat myself so it's perfectly clear. THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED!

Please send $50 to:

WildicankeepmyselfoutofthisandnotemailthethreadtoyourwifeforamerestipendAlaska TM

Dirty_Harry
November 13, 2007, 01:53 PM
WildicankeepmyselfoutofthisandnotemailthethreadtoyourwifeforamerestipendAlaska TM

OMG, so funny:D:D:D

Sounds like a good time, and why...did you pas up a ten pointer???:eek:

kingudaroad
November 13, 2007, 03:16 PM
I've never been to Boys Town, but I've been told that on opening weekend it's so busy that the rooms get full and there is a line of camouflaged clad men holding hands with their "girls" waiting for rooms. That must be a sight!

USNairman
November 13, 2007, 03:50 PM
Everything sounds fun to me except for the way you hunt, or should I say "kill" deer. In my opnion, there is not any hunting in how you harvest these deer. But the nice thing about the USA is that you get that choice.

kingudaroad
November 13, 2007, 05:01 PM
And the point of this thread is in the original post...

This post was inspired by those that trashed that kid for being excited about shooting that nice Texas buck a few threads back. If you don't like the way I hunt, who cares.

I think they sold me the wrong license. I wonder if the "harvesting" license is any cheaper.:confused:

Art Eatman
November 13, 2007, 05:03 PM
License? You need a steenkin' license?

:D:D:D

Art

fisherman66
November 13, 2007, 05:05 PM
License? You need a steenkin' license?


only if you hunt during the day and you want to deal with rimfire restrictions.

FirstFreedom
November 13, 2007, 05:57 PM
Wait I'm confused - what exactly happens at this "Boys Town"? And you need a license to do it?

You forgot to mention having sleep in the trailer or tent with "Butch" the old hunter who ate broccoli and crab cakes for dinner and washed 'em down with Pabst.

No one mentioned being stuck in the blind with the one guy who forgets his glasses or who's eyes are still watering (maybe from sleeping in Butch's tent)... who keeps squinting and whispering "zat a deer?" every time something moves.

Or worse yet, the guy who's so hung over he pukes not only in the blind, but all over the ATV on the way back to camp.

Or the guy nearby in a tree stand with a bladder the size of a walnut who can't stop fidgeting.

:eek: And some people wonder why I hunt alone....

Dang how come we don't have a boys town in okla? Sounds like fun...

fisherman66
November 13, 2007, 06:49 PM
And some people wonder why I hunt alone....

Dang how come we don't have a boys town in okla? Sounds like fun...

Well Butch, get enough point beer in ya and do what the aggies do and go a lookin fer jennys.

USNairman
November 13, 2007, 09:57 PM
I think they sold me the wrong license. I wonder if the "harvesting" license is any cheaper.

I can go out and shoot a deer from my truck while I am cruising the forest and even listen to the radio while I do it. I can also slap a tag on it and check it in the next day and even drop it off to have it mounted. This still doesn't make it hunting. It is harvesting a deer though. Not much different from the way you harvest your deer except for I'd be sitting in a warm truck on wheels instead of a warm cabin on stilts.

If you really want to hunt something then get out and hunt it - don't sit back in a cabin drinking coffee while your warming your toes on a propane heater and watching your feeders spit out feed for your semi-tame animals. If you do harvest your deer this way then please don't come here trying to tell all of us that your hunting because this is the furthest thing from hunting there is. If you disagree with this then you obviously have never been hunting before.

Oh, and by the way... This is my opinion and if you or anyone else doesn't like it, who cares :D

fisherman66
November 13, 2007, 10:05 PM
You can still come to Texas and hunt USNairman (with or without the propane heater). We don't discriminate, but the out of state license ain't cheap.

USNairman
November 13, 2007, 10:19 PM
You can still come to Texas and hunt USNairman (with or without the propane heater). We don't discriminate, but the out of state license ain't cheap.


thanks man!! :D Actually I would like to hunt TX one of these days. My company has a few offices in TX, AZ, NV and Mexico. I have been planning to make a "business trip" out that way so I could do a little hunting.

Yithian
November 13, 2007, 11:13 PM
Hey USNair. Are you currently serving in the USN?
If you are an active duty serviceman, the hunting license in TX is free.

We call it, "Thanks for your service!"
Literally, you have to be stationed here, but some vendors just offer it up to say thanks.

Hows that for expensive, Fish?
LOL

Kentucky Deer Hunter
November 14, 2007, 04:41 PM
http://www.goosehuntingchat.com/images/smiles/beer.gif Where do I sign up? http://www.goosehuntingchat.com/images/smiles/beer.gif

Austin Cowart
November 15, 2007, 03:26 AM
This thread makes me miss my dad or should i say "BUTCH..." Man made me wish that heater gave off just a little more monoxide to kill me cause living threw those stinky nights made me wish i could die. R.I.P. Dad.

castnblast
November 15, 2007, 05:04 PM
Austin, I agree...I miss my dad...been really sentimental season for me this year. Dad died last December, and this was the first opening day w/o him. gotta admit though, this thread has cracked me up...been a fun one...Oh, nights were hell in the cabin when dad made his fried cabage and bratwurst...I'm supprised the darn thing never exploded:D!!! I sure built up one heck of a a methane tollerance over the years...:p

kingudaroad
November 15, 2007, 06:28 PM
Getting away from reality for a while with fathers, sons, friends or whoever. Making those memories that never fade away. I guess that's what we're really hunting.:)

Dirty_Harry
November 21, 2007, 03:13 PM
Getting away from reality for a while with fathers, sons, friends or whoever. Making those memories that never fade away. I guess that's what we're really hunting.

+100

My father is not a big hunter, but our getaway is fishing, snowmobiling or just sitting on the porch bullsh****** with a few drinks.

NRA4life
November 21, 2007, 04:45 PM
This reminds me of one fateful night in the deer shack in Northern WI. One of the guy's wives had made a 5 gallon pail full of bean soup that the gang of us consumed one evening, along with about the same amount of Point Beer. The smell inside there the next morning was indescribable. One of the guys got out of bed and proclaimed "Jesus Christ, if I didn't know any better, I's swear somebody shoved a rasp up my A$$".

454c
November 22, 2007, 02:49 AM
quote : Wait I'm confused - what exactly happens at this "Boys Town"? And you need a license to do it?




License? NO. Penicillin? Maybe.:D

oldironman
November 22, 2007, 03:53 AM
Holier than thou hunting. Not in Texas!
Hunting is what you make it. Some folks don't understand. You can go scout an area, find some sign and acorns, hide behind the tree and wait for bambi <--hunting. OR, You can go scout an area, find some sign and acorns, erect a blind (stand) and feeder, and wait for bambi <--hunting. Not much difference. Or you can walk and hunt. Problem is, for some poor-boy places like the ones where I hunt, there is absolutely no walking around (usually). You scout a spot, hide there behind a tree, and wait for bambi <--hunting. Some folks say it ain't REAL hunting unless you sneak up on 'em with a bow to within at least 15 yards. Folks, it's what you make from what you have. Some folks have more than others, others just cry more than others. Some are just holier than thou.

TexasSeaRay
November 22, 2007, 04:28 AM
Agree. And better than 90% of the time, I hunt alone.

When I hunt elk, I pack in on horseback and a packmule, set up a base camp, and then go looking for sign. Find a good ambush/visibility spot, then wait and see. When I hunt wild pig, sometimes I'll walk around in the brush listening or sometimes I'll just sit up in a tree and wait.

Some animals stalk their prey, others ambush it. It's all hunting--all the moreso if you're eating it as well.

Only thing I don't abide is alcohol in my hunting camp or on any of the land I own and occasionally offer leases on. That don't set well with a lot of folks, but they're absolutely free to go hunt somewhere else or with someone else.

Jeff

Art Eatman
November 22, 2007, 09:27 AM
TSR, it's fine for you to shun booze if ya wanna. But IMO it's wrong to operate on the assumption that having booze at a hunt camp is stupid, evil or bad-nasty.

I figure we all oughta know that there are some who go bonkers if you hit 'em in the face with a wet bar rag. I've owned a couple of bars; I've seen 'em. Some folks are just plain alky, and those folks don't need to be at a hunt camp. But a few beers or drinks around supper time after the guns are all put away--again, IMO--doesn't hurt a thing.

Bottom line: Responsible behavior is all we NEED out of anybody.

TexasSeaRay
November 22, 2007, 09:12 PM
TSR, it's fine for you to shun booze if ya wanna. But IMO it's wrong to operate on the assumption that having booze at a hunt camp is stupid, evil or bad-nasty.

Well . . . lost count of the number of arrests I made because subjects had been drinking then had a lapse in judgement. Most of them didn't start out to get drunk, but . . .

Problem is, on my land, unless I'm there, I don't know if the hunters are having a single beer before turning in or if they're cracking open a case of Wild Turkey and draining it. And if anything bad happens, I'm potentially liable. Sure, they sign a waiver. Uh, huh. And nobody that has had a waiver has ever been sued.

So, my rule on my land is no booze.

Jeff

USNairman
November 22, 2007, 11:01 PM
Well . . . lost count of the number of arrests I made because subjects had been drinking then had a lapse in judgement. Most of them didn't start out to get drunk, but . . .

Problem is, on my land, unless I'm there, I don't know if the hunters are having a single beer before turning in or if they're cracking open a case of Wild Turkey and draining it. And if anything bad happens, I'm potentially liable. Sure, they sign a waiver. Uh, huh. And nobody that has had a waiver has ever been sued.

So, my rule on my land is no booze.

Jeff


:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Art Eatman
November 23, 2007, 10:24 AM
No doubt booze can be a problem. Years back, with a bunch on a lease, our unspoken custom was no beer or whiskey until the guns were all put away. I always was amused when it was seriously cold, by folks having a cold beer or a highball while doing the vertical rotisserie at the campfire. Always seemed like a tad of brandy in a cuppa kawfee made more sense. :D

But, lots of father/son pairs, and several of the fathers either worked together or knew others from other jobs. When all the folks know each other, acting like grownups comes naturally...

I've lost track about whether the Wynne family or corporation still owns Matagorda Island down on the Texas coast. Toddie Lee Wynne would have a bunch of folks down for a big deer hunt/fishing deal. There would be an evening bar setup, but two drinks was it, and then supper.

Some folks would go out fishing in the Gulf; others hunted birds or deer. My father and the foreman drove up the island, with my father shooting a bunch of bucks. A truck with ranch hands followed, gutting and hauling the deer. Deer, fish and birds were all cleaned and butchered, cut and wrapped, and all those in attendance had something to take home to Momma...

My father said that was his high year for shooting Bambi, with 32 bucks tagged. His two, and thirty other guys'. :) But I guess those days are pretty much long gone.

shinnery jim
January 17, 2008, 02:40 PM
thanks Texassearay. I`m with you, I dont hunt with anyone who is drinking. dont get me wrong, I dont mind a guy who drinks. but not when I have a gun and he has a gun. booze and guns are a bad idea. it doesnt take a lot of beer or booze to screw up a great day.

davlandrum
January 17, 2008, 03:18 PM
I admit, I was a hunting snob once upon a time. Learned to hunt in Oregon, and doing a lot of walking/stalking/still hunting. I always felt vastly superior to those who hunted by sitting in a tree or over a feeder.

Until Uncle Sam gave me the chance to hunt a lot of places around the country - Texas, upstate NY, Maryland.

The Army base I hunted in Texas required you to put up a feeder and keep it filled all summer to support the deer population. Hauling 50lb sacks of corn to a feeder a couple of times a week in the summer heat. Certainly the most labor intensive way I ever hunted. And if you add up the cost of feed, probably the most expensive venison I ever ate.

I learned tree-stand hunting in NY and MD. I don't care what anyone says, that is a cold-a** way to hunt. Trying to sit still while your toes have reached the temperature of dry-ice.

I am glad to be back in Oregon so I can hunt the easy way again!! Show up and go hunt, moving to keep warm.:D

Buzzcook
January 17, 2008, 05:34 PM
Except for the price that seems like a great way to hunt.
Especially when compared to sitting on a moldy stump in the rain, wearing a stinky orange poncho and wishing you'd notice the hole in the heel of your rubber boot before you'd left home.

oldironman
January 17, 2008, 07:23 PM
I've never been to Boys Town, but I've been told that on opening weekend it's so busy that the rooms get full and there is a line of camouflaged clad men holding hands with their "girls" waiting for rooms. That must be a sight!

I never -I repeat NEVER held hands with her!! :D

Dirty_Harry
January 17, 2008, 08:35 PM
But IMO it's wrong to operate on the assumption that having booze at a hunt camp is stupid, evil or bad-nasty.


Preach it brother.

TexasSeaRay I definatly understand where you are coming from, but that is one of the reasons I only hunt with people that I know very well and I know will be responsible. There is nothing like a good puff on the pipe and a drink of whiskey or two after a long day in the woods shooting the sh** with my father, uncle and friends.

Art I prefer a touch of whiskey in my kawfee. :D

10-96
January 18, 2008, 06:18 PM
It ****** me off to no end that hunting (read American hunting) has become a rich man's sport here in the high plains. Dog me all you want, but I will not appologize for being a rather slimly paid public servant nor will I cease to show contempt and disdain to more affluent folks when they brag about how much they pay or charge to hunt.

Beretta16
January 19, 2008, 12:23 AM
When I hunt I sit in a cold metal ladder stand in sub-zero temperatures with nothing but a few layers and some wool socks to keep me warm. I try to play the wind and I try to watch my scent and the closest thing I have to bait is maybe a cedar tree 20 yards or so away. I'm in thick stuff, and I'll probably never shoot a deer past 50 yards. When I raise my gun I have to be extremely careful, timing it when the deer's head is down or behind a tree. Sometimes they spot me, sometimes they don't. When they do, they will be gone faster than you can flick off your safety. I'll maybe see just 2 or 3 deer a year and when I do my whole body starts shaking and my heart beats like a war drum. I have trouble holding onto my gun when I get ready to take a shot. If I get one you better believe it's a trophy in my eyes, even if it does just have 2 little spikes and weighs in at 110 lbs.

And I wouldn't have it any other way.. I love the way I hunt and I live for it every year.