Winchester model 06, .22 pump rifle serial number/date question again

[Quadvet]

Hello, will someone please put a date to my rifle for me, serial number 803xxx.

I've had this Winchester nearly 20 years, always wondered about it. Now looking, I see Jim Keenan here talking about one:
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229833

I found a couple samples at Cabelas and as suspected are somewhat desirable.

709xxx/1912, asking $1299: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/ritchfield/win_rifle/709973_win1906.jsp

724xxx / 1913 engraved $2999 sold: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/buda/win_rifle/724235_win06_buda.jsp


I am not looking to sell my rifle. I would like opinions about it. It doesn't appear to have been sanded on but it's not as dark as most. The blueing is nearly perfect. I don't believe it has been refinished. Check it out:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/Valiantdogs/Winchester_06004Small.jpg

You can see here there is no wear to the sliding parts and bluing:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/Valiantdogs/Winchester_061014Small.jpg

Thanks for looking, thanks for the great site, Matt
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[Quadvet]

I'm sorry about the poll, I don't know how to remove it. Can someone help me figure out when my rifle mentioned above was made. It is serial number 803xxx.

Thanks so much,
Matt

[Hawg Haggen]

1935. Was the last year for the 06.

[Quadvet]

1935? I didn't think they made them that long, are you sure? I've seen serial numbers close to mine claiming 1910-14. Does anyone know of an online source for dating these? I'm surprised, because the extensive information I've found on other brands i.e. Colt, Springfield, Ruger etc.. Thanks for the input, Hawg.

[elrod]

One thing about this board, people usually don't answer questions unless they know the answer.;)

Blue Book of Gun Values, 28th ed., Fjestad, only lists s/n sequence through 1932. (727353) The remaining guns were of irregular production runs, and lastly of excess parts. BTW, BB estimates the value of a 90% 06 at $800.

They also note "This model is seldom encountered in over 90% original condition".

[Hawg Haggen]

1935? I didn't think they made them that long, are you sure? I've seen serial numbers close to mine claiming 1910-14. Does anyone know of an online source for dating these? I'm surprised, because the extensive information I've found on other brands i.e. Colt, Springfield, Ruger etc.. Thanks for the input, Hawg.

http://proofhouse.com/win/index.html

[Quadvet]

Sorry about that, just back online now.

Thanks guys, you especially Hawg, didn't mean no disrespect. Thanks for the link, same info I found here: http://armscollectors.com/sn/windates.htm

All lists end at 708259 in 1934 so I reckon that just means my 803xxx was manufactured after that, like you say.

Thanks, interesting study, lucky find.

[Tolstoy]

I know the posts are quite old but I stumbled onto them just today. Winchester ended production on these rifles in 1935 but they had leftover parts so they used them up and manufactured the 06 in 1936 and 1937. Thus the higher serial numbers.

[James K]

Some sources say actual production ended in 1935, with s/n 708259 at the start of the year and 25 made that year, so that would make the last number 708284. In any case, they had enough unnumbered receivers and parts to assemble and ship guns for several years after that. Supposedly serial numbers reached 848000, (we know they reached 803,xxx) but there were gaps and actual production reached only the 708,284 or so indicated in the books.

Why the gap(s)? I don't know but I suspect they lost track of where they were when production stopped and when they assembled rifles they jumped ahead far enough to be sure there was no overlap.

It might be the light or the photography, but the rifle shown by Quadvet appears to have been reblued.

Jim

[rdb1956]

The family lore is the Mod. 06 passed down to me was originally my Great Uncle's and he was quite a shot with it. Well the SN is 738830 and my Great Uncle Mile's passed away at 17 in July 1931. I have no reason to doubt it was Uncle Mile's rifle, so it had to have been made in 1931 at the latest. I'd love to find our more, but everyone who knew Uncle Mile's is gone now too.

[Scorch]

Sorry, but Proofhouse.com says Winchester Model 1906 production ended in 1935 at serial number 708284, but I know a smattering of rifles were produced after that with leftover parts.

If it were a Winchester Model 1890, that date would put it squarely in the 1930 production range.

So either your great uncle died after you think he did, your rifle is actually a Model 1890, or that rifle came from somewhere else.

[jughead2]

dang that means mine is at least a couple of years older than i am. sure aint no bluing left on it though:eek:

[SilentHitz]

Mine neither on the finish, but it sure is fun as hell to shoot.:D
Here's a site that will help you determine what variation you have.
http://aaa-webs.com/aaa/webs/homestead/courses/1906/1906-2models.htm

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p27/SilentHitz/0A1winchesterpump3.jpg

[barry t]

serial number 834437 - short , long or long rifle.... I believe it was made in 1911 ,.... It is in great condition ... The main thing i have noticed about this gun is that it has a stainless steel barrell.... I've not noticed anyone else mention that about theirs ...... I need to know what it is worth .... I think maybe the SS barrell and the condition would make it worth a good bit more than others... If i can get top dollar , i need to sell it .. It's been in the family for at least 40 years ... I took it squirell hunting about 38 years ago... still in great shape..