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Kruz
October 15, 2007, 08:57 PM
Last week I got a '87 Colt Officers ACP (ultimate bright ss).
took it to the range and put about 50-75 rounds through it to check it out and it worked just fine. no feed or ejection problems noted..
However, when I rack the slide to eject a live round it wont
"fling" it.. it just stays in the port and gets stuck there. if I turn it upside-down and rack the slide it falls to the floor.
I broke it down and put a live round in place at the ejector rod and shook the slide (it did not fall at all) and was quite snug..
I disassembled the slide, ejector, firing pin, etc: and cleaned out the openings and springs with solvent and re-assembled and oiled everything up.. But it still does the same thing.. any ideas on this one?

KyleH
October 15, 2007, 09:13 PM
When I was new to my rifle and pistols, they would both do this if I didn't pull it back quickly enough. Are you "snapping" it back or just slowly pulling back?

Redneckrepairs
October 15, 2007, 09:29 PM
the internal extractor is tuned by bending it ahead of the bump , it should just hold a round against the breachface if a round is hand pushed into it when the slide is dismounted . Just food for thought there since the extractor is the issue on 1911s much more than the ejector .

James K
October 15, 2007, 09:40 PM
It sounds like the extractor is not gripping the case properly. As Redneckrepairs says, you can tune the extractor but Colt made some of those extractors by MIM or casting, and they don't have the proper spring tension. (The extractor has to be made of spring steel, but that is costly, so many makers, including Colt, have tried other materials, with lack of success.)

Jim

gordo_gun_guy
October 15, 2007, 09:44 PM
Kruz, if I interpreted your post correctly, you've got an ejection problem and a lexicon problem.:D

If you took a thingy out of the slide by depressing the back of the firng pin and sliding out the firing pin stop (taking care to not put your eye out with a stray firing pin), that thingy is the extractor. Yep, holding a round in the slide is an old school way to judge extractor tension.

However, if your dificulty is indeed mechanical, it's probably a problem with the actual ejector, which is that other thingy pinned into the top of the back left side of the frame. It may have fractured.

Simple check: lock the slide to the rear on your assembled gun. Look in the ejection port at the breech face of the slide (the part with the firing pin hole). Your ejector should be poking out a goodly bit (don't know JMB's spec off the top of my head). Most 1911 ejectors I've seen have a rectangluar profile; if yours is jagged or obviously not long enough, then it's broke and needs replaced.

Try http://www.M1911.org for some good advice from a Eurotrash guy on how to repair this fine American gun....:confused::D

Good luck! Sorry for the sarcasm--long day at the j.o.b.

Dfariswheel
October 16, 2007, 12:08 AM
As general info, this is from the same question on another forum:

"It's not unusual for "mini" guns to have problems ejecting loaded rounds.

If you notice, the Officer's Model has a circular cut in the lower front area of the ejection port specifically to allow loaded rounds some extra clearance room.

Even with the cut, it's common for the gun to have problems ejecting a loaded round.
This also depends on the bullet shape. Some clear better than others.

This is just an Officer's Model "quirk" you have to learn to live with."

Harry Bonar
October 16, 2007, 04:15 PM
Sirs:
I agree that the extractor tension is part of the problem.
We, at Novaks, started cutting a .050 cur towards the front of the ejection port to clear loaded hard-ball in the Colt and clones.
Harry B.

Kruz
October 16, 2007, 04:55 PM
I put a casing (spent) into the chamber and racked the slide same as before, it ejected about a foot into the air without any problems. maybe I'll just have to get used to dropping the mag and letting the round drop through the gun . (it does that pretty well) :)

Dfariswheel
October 16, 2007, 11:34 PM
The problem with the Mini-guns is the necessarily short slide travel.
These guns need to eject the case as quickly as possible due to the slide not opening as far as a full size.

Because of this, a loaded round's bullet is actually hitting the ejection port in the front, and ejection of loaded rounds can be "iffy".

This is a problem with many small guns, especially the mini-1911 models.
Again, that's why the Colt Officer's Model ACP has the circular cut in the lower front of the ejection port.
It's there to allow a little more room for the bullet of a loaded case to clear.

In these small guns, what's important is that a fired case eject, and an occasional hangup of a loaded round is part of the price you pay for a tiny .45.

Kruz
October 19, 2007, 02:21 PM
I picked these up at CDNN, and picked the silver medallion because of it looks better than gold for bright stainless. and l like the way they dress the old girl up.
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October 23, 2007, 12:37 PM
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