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pdt1793db
October 1, 2007, 09:11 PM
I was just wondering if any of you guys ever turkey hunt with the .22 magnum. This struck my fancy when I was looking through the hunting regulations and remembered I had a Ruger Single Six with a .22 magnum cylinder. I guess my question is how effective is the .22 magnum on turkey and what would be a good area to place the shot in?

castnblast
October 1, 2007, 09:33 PM
Done it...Not w/ a revolver, but w/ a marlin rifle. Nailed it right in the head. 22 mag is well suited for turkey hunting. Make sure you use a hollow point if you intend on making a body shot. (I discourage that). You actually need to shoot them in the hip socket, or spinal column if you don't want them to run. The other option is right up the pooper when they turn away from you. Makes a pretty good bullseye.

Fat White Boy
October 2, 2007, 01:46 AM
The .22 mag isn't legal for turkey in California. You can hunt rabbits and grouse with a .22, though.

Mavrik
October 2, 2007, 07:22 AM
I'm not entirely sure what your location is but Archery and Shotgun are the only legal methods of taking a Turkey in Missouri. Check local regulations

To quote TFL Member Scorch from a recent thread where this came up

The only state I know of that allows weapons other than shotguns for turkey is Montana. Most states dropped firearms other than shotguns for turkey back in the 1970s and 1980s.

I do remember watching a hunting program about 2 years ago where they were hunting Turkey with a 44 mag revolver. It was in Texas I think.

Mavrik

worth
October 2, 2007, 09:39 AM
.22 magnum is fine for turkey. The best shot placement is at the base of the neck. This saves the meat and drops them nicely.
Worth

FirstFreedom
October 2, 2007, 10:27 AM
In Oklahoma, in the fall only, in *certain counties* only, a rifle is legal during the brief "Fall Turkey Gun" season. In those places, a .22 mag would be an excellent choice if you ask me. Won't tear up too much meat if you hit the breast.

In other counties in the fall, it's shotgun only, and in still other counties, there is no fall turkey gun season.

In the spring turkey season, it is shotgun only.

I've often wondered if a .223 rem with ball military ammo would kill a turkey well without tearing up the meat - by the time it starts tumbling, it's already through the breast.

Neophyte1
October 2, 2007, 10:39 AM
Turkey in NC: Bow and Shotgun

Scorch
October 2, 2007, 01:21 PM
Assuming it's legal in your state (you said you read the regs), a 22 mag handgun will work, but may not be the best option. Out of a 6" barrel, a 22 Mag has less velocity than a 22LR out of a rifle. In this case, I would definitely choose head shots to make sure the turkey isn't going anywhere, and limit the range to make sure your shot placement is good.

FrontSight
October 2, 2007, 02:15 PM
Darn, wish it was legal in NY!

castnblast
October 2, 2007, 08:59 PM
They are legal in TX for Rio's but you can't take an Eastern with one...HMMM:confused: Shotgun only for Easterns...I guess they figure western birds are smarter than the yankee birds and they are harder to get close too...:p Just kidding guys...I really don't know what the rationalization is for that. I'm not sure the state does either...Imagine that...

Bitmap
October 3, 2007, 08:06 AM
.22mag will work fine. .22LR will work fine if you hit the bird well. A .44mag will not work if you don't hit the bird well.

To quote TFL Member Scorch from a recent thread where this came up

Quote:
The only state I know of that allows weapons other than shotguns for turkey is Montana. Most states dropped firearms other than shotguns for turkey back in the 1970s and 1980s.

Scorch doesn't know what he's talking about. Most of my turkeys have been with a .38 Special or .357 mag. with cast bullets.

They are legal in TX for Rio's but you can't take an Eastern with one...HMMM Shotgun only for Easterns...I guess they figure western birds are smarter than the yankee birds and they are harder to get close too... Just kidding guys...I really don't know what the rationalization is for that. I'm not sure the state does either...Imagine that...

It can't be the old population density argument because they allow rifles for deer in those same counties.

ActivShootr
October 3, 2007, 08:16 AM
Illegal as fishin' with dynamite in TN. :eek:

I think a shotgun would be more effective.

Mavrik
October 3, 2007, 10:17 AM
ust wondering if any of you guys ever turkey hunt with the .22 magnum. This struck my fancy when I was looking through the hunting regulations and remembered I had a Ruger Single Six with a .22 magnum cylinder. I guess my question is how effective is the .22 magnum on turkey and what would be a good area to place the shot in?

When I originally read this I completely missed that the thought occurred that because of reading the local regulations.

Note to self: Don't respond to threads 5 min after waking up in the morning.

Personally I'd rather use a shotgun but it's not like I haven't been tempted dozens of times by turkeys walking around 20yrds away while I'm out deer hunting with my rifle.

Mavrik

Scorch
October 3, 2007, 12:45 PM
Scorch doesn't know what he's talking about.OK, I'll bite. I only said The only state I know of that allows weapons other than shotguns for turkey is Montana.Apparently there are others, I just know about the 11 western states I have hunted in. What state are you from? I'll add it to my list of states that allow pistols or rifles for turkey hunting. After I check the regs.

crowbeaner
October 3, 2007, 09:59 PM
Rifles USED to be legal in PA, but I haven't checked their regs lately. Until they allow me to use a modern BP and my 742 I stay here to hunt. Still backwards in Amish country I guess. CB.

Mannlicher
October 4, 2007, 03:40 PM
I have killed two gobblers with my Ruger Mini-14, taking head shots at under 30 yards. I know the .223 works ok, I have not used a .22 mag though.

wun_8_seven
October 4, 2007, 04:55 PM
In Oklahoma, i've shot them with 223 sp with good results. i think 22 mag or 17hmr would work great

Bitmap
October 5, 2007, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Scorch
OK, I'll bite. I only said
Quote:
The only state I know of that allows weapons other than shotguns for turkey is Montana.
Apparently there are others, I just know about the 11 western states I have hunted in. What state are you from? I'll add it to my list of states that allow pistols or rifles for turkey hunting. After I check the regs.

Texas. There are some counties in East Texas that are limited to shotgun, bow, and crossbow only. This is for Eastern Turkey. The rest of the state is any legal method for Rio Grande Turkey.

Here is your link:
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/nonpwdpubs/media/outdoor_annual_2007_2008.pdf

Check out page 54 for Means and Methods. Page 67 also refers to this. Bring an open sighted handgun or small caliber rifle next time you are in TX.

Apparently in OK you can use rifles as well at least part of the time in some areas.



Personally I'd rather use a shotgun but it's not like I haven't been tempted dozens of times by turkeys walking around 20yrds away while I'm out deer hunting with my rifle.

Mavrik

You won't be happy with the results. I know from experience. I thought a .454 would be ok because I didn't think a turkey would provide enough resistance to expand the bullets a lot and tear up the meat - was I ever wrong. I've seen them hit with .30-30 Managed Recoil rounds, .270 and .30-06 and the results were ugly. Picture a turkey with a hole big enough to put your fist ALL THE WAY THROUGH. If you can make a head shot or where the neck meets the body you'll be ok. I prefer smaller calibers like I said: .38 Special or .357 with hard cast bullets and moderate velocities, or .22mag. .38 Special factory 158gr. LRN loads work great.

Have fun.

fisherman66
October 5, 2007, 07:50 AM
My wifes father's idea of turkey hunting is waiting for a couple birds to line their necks up on plane with his 280. I know what you are thinkin'. I'd call BS too if I didn't enjoy the "ill gotten gains" chicken fried.

Adventurer 2
October 5, 2007, 07:57 AM
Last year PA was rifle legal for Turkey - and what an advantage it is. I'll tell you I have fallen asleep waiting for big, fat, toms to get into shotgun range. I would shoot the turkey in the head and prevent the hand to spur combat of strangling a wounded turkey (if he doesn't get away).

Adventurer 2
October 5, 2007, 08:01 AM
Oh yeah - you want to use a pistol. I wouldn't do that unless the turkey was really, really close. I can shoot a turkey further out with a shotgun than with a pistol. I've had jakes that have walked right up next to me where I could just grab them with my hands (never did but I could have). A pistol would have worked there.

Scorch
October 5, 2007, 01:24 PM
Bring an open sighted handgun or small caliber rifle next time you are in TX.Thanks, Bitmap, I may do that.

I've had jakes that have walked right up next to me where I could just grab them with my hands (never did but I could have)Can I watch? I saw a goose beat the snot out of a 120 lbs Chessie once, and saw a hen turkey pound a coyote pretty severely. If you do grab one, better be ready for the reaction!

castnblast
October 6, 2007, 09:09 PM
I nailed a nice tom 2 years ago @ 40yds w/my 300 win mag. (deer season) I knew if I body shot him there would be turkey all over the place. I aimed right wher the neck meets the body, and didn't blow it to smitherenes...That said, another 2" lower, and the results would have been much, much, different. Contrary, we were turkey hunting the spring turkey season about 5 years ago when we came across a pack of hogs. I grabbed my 300 and We chased them a good ways before we lost them. On the way back to the truck you guessed it, 3 toms...I tried the same shot, but much further. I hit low, and the bird blew into pieces. I hate wasting game, and was able to salvage a small part of one breast, but that was it...:(

samsmix
October 8, 2007, 05:02 PM
A growing group of folks here in MT swear by the use of a .32 cal percussion rifle for body shots on Gobblers. Following this line of thought, the .22 mag should do well. It is in fact a common enough Turkey *rifle* here, as is the .22 Hornet, .222 & .223.

OH MY! It just dawned on me there are so many good rounds for this:

17 M2, 17 HMR, 5MM REM, .204 Ruger .22LR, .22WMR .22WRFM, .22 hornet, .222, 222mag, .223, 32 S&W, .32 H&R, 25-20, 32-20, .30 carbine, 7.62x25 Tokarev .38S&W, 38-40 38 SPL, .38 super, 9MM, 9x18 MAK .40S&W, 10mm. . . The list goes on! Even the .32acp &
.380 acp would be great if the guns are accurate enough!



For rifles, I'll pick: .30 carbine in an M-1 carbine
9mm largo in a "Destroyer" carbine
'03 Springfield w/.32acp "Pedersen" device
.32 flintlock
.75cal Brown Bess w/.25cal "swan shot" on the fly!
(but this involves stalking turkeys so you must be ina private area)

For pistols: Ruger single-six hunter in .22mag or .32mag
Ruger blackhawk in .30 carbine
my S&W M-15 .38 spl
TT-33 Tokarev, 6'' Navy Luger, or Mauser C-96
in their 7.62 chamberings.
Hammerelli target pistol in .32 S&W
.32 flintlock
1851 colt in .36 cal

sixgunluv
April 21, 2012, 11:51 PM
.22 Magnum has always been my favorite weapon here in WV for Turkey. There are also many good ammo choices for the "Magnum."
My favs.
Remington PSP 40gr
Federal 50gr HP
Winchester Supreme 34gr HP
CCI +V 30gr HP

PHOTO of Winchester Supreme 34gr taken from under the skin on the opposite thigh.

BIG P
April 22, 2012, 01:09 AM
They work good top of the breast & bottom of the neck,Stay away from the beard it will cut it like a knife.Ruger single six 9.5.

langenc
April 22, 2012, 02:13 PM
Illegal as fishin' with dynamite in TN.
From post #12..

I think this means 'it is not legal-we do it all the time. Just dont get caught.'

Gunplummer
April 23, 2012, 10:33 PM
Pennsylvania- Some counties in the fall. I never used a .22 mag on turkey, but body shot coons and it knocks them backward. Find it hard to believe it is not up to turkey. Usually take out the .22 Hi-Power myself.

eastbank
April 24, 2012, 05:01 AM
pa. shotgun in the spring and rifle in the fall. eastbank.

bamaranger
April 25, 2012, 01:46 AM
I lived in a state that allowed rifles for fall turkey hunting. Ideal turkey rifles were thought to be the .22 Hornet, .218 Bee, the .25-20. When the 5mm Rimfire Mag made its appearance in the 70's, some guys bought it for a turkey rifle. The .22 mag was used as well, but the centerfires were more popular and better killers to hear fella's talk.

The aiming point was always the butt of the wing. The head is an elusive target. Heck, spring gobbler hunters miss turkeys heads, with shotguns, at under 30 yds, more often than some will admit. The idea is to run the bullet above and behind the breast, catch the lungs and spine.

The .22 lr was not considered a turkey rifle, but doubtless squirrel hunters potted a few. I have killed one spring gobbler that had a .22 cal bullet wound through the breast bone. Completely healed over and healthy ( super spooky) trophy tom. Migrant tree planters likely shot him on our lease a few years before (they were caught later).

If its true that a .22 mag in a handgun is the ballistic equal of a .22 lr from a rifle, ie the .22 mag looses a bunch of steam from the handgun, then I cannot endorse it as a turkey round from a revolver.

If you are good enough, and disciplined ehough to only head shoot turkeys with a revolver, and its legal, carry on. Hunting turkeys, fall or spring with an iron sighted handgun should be a heck of a challenge. I myself would not be eating much turkey.

I tried bow hunting spring turkey...once.... and got humbled really quickly.

Gunplummer
April 25, 2012, 07:23 AM
Apparently you have never been to a real "Turkey shoot". Turkey tied behind a log, somebody calling, shoot what ever you brought. Shoot for the head when it pops up above the log. Some of those boys could really shoot. Don't see the shoots much anymore with the animal rights people all over the place.

Deja vu
April 26, 2012, 09:22 PM
I would like to try a 357 magnum rifle on a turkey.

Gunplummer
April 28, 2012, 01:12 AM
How about a .38 special? I always wanted a set up for turkey with a .38 and never got around to it. Over the years it kind of got lost in the caliber shuffle when autos became king, but it is still a very good round in my opinion. Another idea I was toying with was the 7.62x25 for turkey. Never got around to that either.

Jack O'Conner
April 29, 2012, 06:04 AM
22 MAG hits like a small grenade. Very large wound channel for such a small bore. Mine shoots dime sized groups at 75 yards every time with plain Winchester ammo.

Jack

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/rushmoreman/Marlin22MAG.jpg

bamaranger
April 29, 2012, 06:38 PM
I have never been to a live turkey shoot. I saw one on the Sgt York movie.
I have shot a goodly number of wild gobblers with a shotgun, from about 50 ydes in. I have shot at and lost exactly one with a bow.

Yeah, a .38 with a lead slug would likely make an ideal woods turkey rifle. It would have a trajectory like a rock though. Out of something like a Marlin carbine, it might be ideal. When the clover was up, I use to plug a number of woodchucks with a Marlin so loaded as well as my M27, which I should have never traded.

The post was about revolvers. A .22 Mag from a rifle would make a bottom line turkey rifle in my book.