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henrybranam
September 17, 2007, 06:08 PM
The REM. 870 you buy at walmart are they the same as you buy at a reglar gun dealer? I looked at one today at walmart and it looked cheap, it was a 870 Express. How good is the Express model?

rantingredneck
September 17, 2007, 06:14 PM
An 870 express bought at Walmart is no different than one bought at a gun dealer. Except in price.

The express model has a less expensive finish, fewer chokes included, and less fancy stocks than the Wingmaster model but otherwise is the same gun.

Dfariswheel
September 17, 2007, 06:17 PM
As has been hashed over MANY times on the internet, Wal-Mart gets the same quality guns any local dealer gets.
In other words, gun makers don't run a special production line to make substandard guns just for Wal-Mart.

Like many big sellers, Wal-Mart does have gun makers make them special limited edition models.

Magnum.35744
September 17, 2007, 06:28 PM
Isn't this the revolver section though....:confused::o.

-Tre

henrybranam
September 17, 2007, 06:32 PM
Sorry I am new at this did I get it in the wrong section , if I did sorry about that.:confused::confused:

henrybranam
September 17, 2007, 06:37 PM
Which is better 12ga or 20ga and is 268.00 a good price, sorry just havent bought many guns, and if you don't know ask.

zippyfusenet
September 17, 2007, 07:20 PM
Better for what?

A 12 gauge barrel is bigger than a 20 gauge barrel. A 12 gauge shell contains more pellets of the same size than a 20 gauge shell.

The only shotgun I own is a Mossberg 500 (12 gauge) with an 18.5 inch barrel, intended for home defense, bought very lightly used about a year ago for $175. It's a good gun for my intended use, and the price was great. You may want something more expensive, depends what you want to use it for.

Dfariswheel
September 18, 2007, 12:02 AM
Which gauge to buy depends entirely on what you want to use the gun for.

The 20 gauge has less recoil and is quite good for home defense and bird hunting. The gun itself is lighter.

The 12 gauge has more recoil (depending on what ammo you use), the ammo usually costs less because they make more of it then 20 gauge, there is a much wider choice in 12 gauge ammo, particularly in the heavy buckshot used for home defense, and there are more barrels and accessories made for the 12.

An 870 at $268.00 is a good price for a really great gun.

T-Ray
September 18, 2007, 10:06 PM
walmart buys the same stuff bass pro buys, it just sells more stuff (not including hunting gear) so it makes more profit, therefore allowing it to lower its prices on things. its all the same stuff just at a better price

T-Ray
September 18, 2007, 10:08 PM
well 268 isn't exactly a gotta have it price. around here, the normal is 238 and when they go on sale (often) they're 199. i picked up the synthetic model for 219 after rebate

perazzimx14
September 19, 2007, 06:26 PM
Express:

1. Matte finish on the barrel and receiver
2. Birch stock and forearm
3. One factory choke tube
4. Plastic and/or polymer trigger housing

Wingmaster:

1. Nicely blued finish on barrel and receiver
2. Walnut stock and forearm
3. Three factory choke tubes
4. Metal trigger housing

Doyle
September 19, 2007, 06:48 PM
Some people have noted that the express models have a tendency to surface rust.

perazzimx14
September 20, 2007, 06:18 PM
Any carbon steel based structure will tend to "surface rust" if not protected.

Diesel1
September 20, 2007, 07:52 PM
I have a Remington 870 Express 12 gauge that I bought at K mart
about 20 years ago. It's been through hell and back. Dropped in a river
and banged around, still looks decent and goes bang every time. It's been a home defense gun, duck and goose gun, clay pigeon killer and occassional slug gun. In other words, it's a true 870.:cool:

Brad Clodfelter
September 20, 2007, 09:29 PM
Express:

1. Matte finish on the barrel and receiver
2. Birch stock and forearm
3. One factory choke tube
4. Plastic and/or polymer trigger housing

Wingmaster:

1. Nicely blued finish on barrel and receiver
2. Walnut stock and forearm
3. Three factory choke tubes
4. Metal trigger housing

This guy knows his stuff.

The nicer gun would be the 870 Wingmaster.

I have an Express. It's a very good shooting shogun that functions flawlessly.

Brad

Oli
September 21, 2007, 07:17 AM
I dont recommend the wingmaster Super Mag (3 1/2), I had to return mine to REM and I got a Magnum instead (which I absolutly love).

Balrog54
September 21, 2007, 08:01 AM
Had the exact same experience as Oli above, returned son's brand new Express Super Magnum to Remington for repair, it came back and still wouldn't work. Walmart took it back and swapped it for the regular Express which has never given him any problems.

Oli
September 21, 2007, 10:48 AM
I dont think they sell wingmaster S MAG anymore, it's telling a lot.

Neanderthal
October 21, 2007, 04:56 AM
The people that say that the Express is prone to surface rust are the ones that are simply not taking proper care of their weapon. SHAME!

Jets2007
October 21, 2007, 11:03 AM
My 870 is from Walmart. It's about 3 years old and works great. No complaints from me. I also baught my Winchester 1300 and Mossberg 835 from Wal-mart.... no problems with those guns either.

rem870hunter
October 24, 2007, 06:48 PM
my wingmaster magnum cost 300.00 from best products. anyone remember that store? about 15 +/- years ago. i bought an express mag. last jan. for 275.00 used. fully rifled barrel with sights, wood stock and forend. and some silly reason a 3.5-10 power scope. i took the scope off and bought a rem. choke 28" vent rib and a 20" smoothbore slug barrel with rifle sights off ebay. before they banned barrels,etc.