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submaniac
July 19, 2007, 12:44 AM
I have a Yugo M70AB2. I was doing a search on the internet (which may be a mistake in and of itself)....but, I found a couple of topics where people have said that the AK will accept a .308 round. I know 7.62mm translates to .308 caliber, but have read that the AK's are actually .303 caliber. I also know that the u.s. 7.62 are x51 and not x39. I don't want to *TRY* it without asking on this board. And the reason I am asking here, is that you guys actually KNOW rather than talking out of your nether regions. The reason I was searching on the internet in the first place was to try and find some "match grade" 7.62 ammo, and the people said that there was no such thing, and you should try the .308. If you could shoot the .308 that would be wonderful, because I love the round, and then I wouldn't ever have to worry about the supply of 7.62's ever running out (which is sort of a constant fear of mine). Also, if it was possible, I would love to get an SKS and shoot .308 as a "poor man's remington 700" sniper. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Zak Smith
July 19, 2007, 12:52 AM
No

nate45
July 19, 2007, 12:55 AM
No a .308 Win is a 7.62x51 NATO and will not chamber in your rifle.

kametc
July 19, 2007, 01:11 AM
I'm sure there are Puh-lenty of Remington 700's around chambered for .308 Win. Then you can start working up a real "poor mans" 700 sniper

chris in va
July 19, 2007, 01:24 AM
Ok, here goes.

308 is a bullet diameter, but also shorthand for 7.62x51. That's where you got confused.

The typical AK's bore diameter is actually right around .311 from what I understand, but shoots a standard 308 diameter bullet. Again, not to be confused with the x51 round.

AK's shoot 7.62x39 only unless chambered for something else.

There's LOTS of 308 diameter bullets out there...30.06, x39, x51, x54, 30cal...I could go on.

Wildalaska
July 19, 2007, 01:30 AM
It wasnt a stupid question, it was smart to ask

WildnoswitchiecalibersAlaska

rugerdude
July 19, 2007, 01:52 AM
Yeah, at least the thread wasn't "I blew myself up".

Now, there are some fifles based on the AK action that fire .308/7.62x51 and those are the certain VEPR's and Saigas, and probably some others too. However, your yugo (nice gun by the way, I hope to own one soon) will only fire 7.62x39mm.

So go have some fun, but only with 7.62x39mm;)

nate45
July 19, 2007, 02:00 AM
Yeah, at least the thread wasn't "I blew myself up".
LOL

ARmasterzach
July 19, 2007, 02:44 AM
id try it in a life or death situation:p

joshua
July 19, 2007, 06:45 AM
id try it in a life or death situation

I'm thinking there would be no life if you do or do not succeed... :D

You'll need to hammer that 7.62x51 round into the chamber of that yugo, and I mean using a real hammer.

josh

joab
July 19, 2007, 07:46 AM
7.62x39 on left 7.62x51 (NATO .308) on right

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/bugman/Picture.jpg

Lane
July 19, 2007, 11:31 AM
only if ur starring in a hollywood movie

nobius
July 19, 2007, 11:49 AM
If you reload, any .308 bullet could be loaded into a 7.62 x 39 shell. This would include the MatchKing bullets that are probably the most common. Here is a link to some reload information to give you a better idea as to what is available.
http://www.accuratereloading.com/76239.html

Gewehr98
July 19, 2007, 05:56 PM
If you reload, any .308 bullet could be loaded into a 7.62 x 39 shell. This would include the MatchKing bullets that are probably the most common.

As the .308" MatchKing rattled down the .311" tube of an AK or SKS to parts unknown. Note that the folks at AccurateReloading were using a custom .308" Krieger-barreled Remington 700 bolt gun chambered in 7.62x39 for their tests. ;)

PTR 91
July 19, 2007, 06:36 PM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! 7.62x39 7.62x51 Two Different Calibers.

Kreyzhorse
July 19, 2007, 07:58 PM
I understand that a 7.62x51 shouldn't fit into a rifle chambered for 7.62.39, but the question got me thinking... what would happen if you loaded a 7.62x39into a 7.62x51 chambered rifle? After the boom, what would happen?

RockHoundTX
July 19, 2007, 11:07 PM
Actually, there really should not be a "boom" if you put a x39 in a x51 chamber. The casing would slide so far into the chamber that firing pin should theoretically never hit the primer. If somehow it did go "boom", you could potentially do some damage to the front part of the chamber because the round might not be seated in the barrel properly. Not something I would want to try on purpose.

Average Joe
July 19, 2007, 11:21 PM
Glad you asked, answer is NO.

MacGille
July 20, 2007, 05:32 AM
Nah, won't fit, forget it.:)

submaniac
July 22, 2007, 03:11 AM
And thanks for all the replies. so the .308/nato won't work in a 7.62x39 cartridge. Well what about using the .308 in a Moisin Nagant 7.62x54R chamber? THe nagant's chamber is bigger than the round, and the cartridge size is very similar. do you think that that might actually work? Once again I was thinking the 'poor man's' remington 700. But, like for the cost of the $90 Moisin Nagant that I looked at at Big Five sporting goods.

chris in va
July 22, 2007, 03:22 AM
No again. The Nagant uses a rimmed cartridge and is considerably larger anyway.

Seriously, don't even ask. Just use the round meant for the gun.

MacGille
July 22, 2007, 05:04 AM
You should get a couple of books on rifles and learn more about calibers. People who play around with cartridges that produce 50,000 to 60,000 pounds per square inch pressures sometimes earn names like "Lefty","hook", "one eye" "stub" or even "the late ...":)

DPris
July 22, 2007, 12:21 PM
How about using correct cartridges in rifles designed to shoot them? Just a thought. :)
If you want to use a particular cartridge/caliber for its merits, shoot it in rifles chambered for it. If you're stuck on finances, you're just going to have to live with the limitations of what you buy.
You keep trying to swap around like you're talking about & you're heading for very poor performance at best, disaster at worst. You will not get "sniper" performance out of using the wrong ammunition in a given rifle, nor are you likely to get it in the types of surplus rifles you're talking about at typical price points for them.
Spend the money to get the caliber you want, or stick with the caliber on whatever you can afford to buy. If you're performance driven, it's just flat gonna cost you money. If you're budget driven, you're stuck with what your wallet lets you do.
Denis

Mike Irwin
July 22, 2007, 04:56 PM
It used to be fairly common lore, and you still run across it occasionally, that the "enemy" (insert Germans, Japanese, Italians, Russians, etc.) all designed their weapons so that they could shoot their ammo in our guns, but not vice versa.

That is, and always has been, a complete load of crapola.

As others have mentioned, you can shoot a .308 bullet out of a .311 bore, and you often will get pretty decent accuracy.

.003 is not a lot, and the bullet base will often swage up a little bit.

Average Joe
July 23, 2007, 12:57 PM
Please don't try to mix calibers in firearms. Most are made for a specific cartridge, you could seriously hurt yourself, and others . Go with the bullet designed for the gun.

Old Time Hunter
July 23, 2007, 03:50 PM
Yes, you can use .308 bullets in a rifle chambered for the 7.62 X 39.....problem is, you can not use the .308 casings.

bennnn
July 23, 2007, 06:55 PM
If you could shoot the .308 that would be wonderful, because I love the round, and then I wouldn't ever have to worry about the supply of 7.62's ever running out (which is sort of a constant fear of mine). Also, if it was possible, I would love to get an SKS and shoot .308 as a "poor man's remington 700" sniper.

Which expletive should I use???

I would love to get an SKS and shoot .308 as a "poor man's remington 700" sniper.

Screw .308,,, make my next SKS a .50 Beowolfe


I actually would work,,,, but anyway...