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Lavid2002
April 19, 2007, 08:43 PM
Hey there guys I was just wondering if anyone has any stalking tips? How to stay low, out of sight, quiet, and get that good shot on the game.....Thanks guys!:D
Dave

fisherman66
April 19, 2007, 08:58 PM
What did Elmer Fudd say? be verwy verwy quiet

Smell: Keep your nose to the wind. Anti scent products can help. Don't smoke before going afield.

Sound: Wear clothes that don't rustle. Roll from heel to toe when walking. Avoid stepping on ground that makes noise. Make sure your sling swivel does not squeak.

Sight: Avoid being backlit. Wear neutral or camo clothes. Some people put burnt cork on their face (I don't, but I will wear a mesh net hat most of the time). White skin tends to be obvious. Watches and shiny surfaces can reflect light.

Smell and sound are the worse culprits IMO.

It never fails that I have a cold during deer season. The urge to cough gets unbearable. I've tried to make soft grunts, but inviariably a cough comes out.

I don't stalk hunt. I still hunt and move as little as possible.

Fat White Boy
April 19, 2007, 09:54 PM
Soft clothing is important for noise discipline. Rain gear and the like can be noisy.

Always be aware of wind direction.

If you have to walk through noisy ground cover, go slow and put your toe down first. Your toe is more sensitive and you can stop in mid step if a leaf or twig starts crack. You can use your toe to move debris out of the way, clearing a place to put you foot.

If you can see your prey, move when the head is down. Try to get a tree, rock(s), brush or any obstsacle between you and your prey. Be careful, though, and don't lose sight of your prey for more than a few seconds at any time.

2rugers
April 19, 2007, 10:11 PM
The absolute most important tip anyone can ever give you if ground hunting is to play the wind.
Sight and sound will come second ALMOST every time.
I have had game hear me and stay put until I was identified and I have had game see me and stay put until they smelled me.

Lavid2002
April 19, 2007, 10:12 PM
Ya my cousin is really good at this....he would sneak up on pheasants on the trail, small windy trail in the woods and hit em with iron sights with a .22 back in michigan....amazing...wish i was that good. Thanks for the tips I cant wait till deer season : D

dirty habit
April 20, 2007, 02:50 AM
http://www.fishnhunt.co.nz/forum/YaBB.cgi?num=1173670597
Not sure how to link this but these boys know what theyre doing!

K.J.
April 20, 2007, 04:53 AM
I found this worthwhile:

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In fact, I've not seen anything better.

FirstFreedom
April 20, 2007, 08:23 AM
Are we talking deer/ungulates here? If so,

First of all, the worse the weather, the better for you. Rainy/wet & windy means you can be quieter. Don't stay in bed; get up and hunt!

Second, I don't believe that you need to stay low; at least not in the woods. You'll make more noise and movement trying to stay low, going up and down, than just by standing still like a tree.

Take about 3 slow steps, trying not to step on any leaves or sticks, then stop and look around very slowly, 360 degrees, for roughly 20 or 30 seconds, then repeat. Some use binocs; some don't. If you're in the woods, binocs aren't really necessary. In open areas, they would help. Look very carefully, as bedded or still deer can camoflauge very well - look for eyes, and white spots.

The key is to move sloooooowly in all movements - steps, hand movements, etc. When you see game, then wait for the game to look away, and at that point, rest your rifle against the side of a tree, with hand support pressing the rifle to the tree, as a field rest.

FirstFreedom
April 20, 2007, 09:21 AM
P.S. Of course, playing the wind goes without saying on ungulates/bear/pigs.

Art Eatman
April 20, 2007, 10:54 AM
Nothing walks in absolute silence; human ears just aren't good enough to pick up the small sounds. BUT: Critters don't march. They aren't rhythmic in the sounds they make.

So, avoid steady walking. Aside from trying to minimize noise, take only one or two steps before pausing.

Another thing: Glance down and observe the ground for your next two or three steps and then go back to looking for critters as you take those steps. That way, you avoid sticks and rolling rocks yet still are watching the world around you. You can't see Bambi if you're looking at your feet, and you'll spook him if you break sticks or kick rocks.

When you find some good spot to sit and look, do your best to be a rock or stump. "Zen time, lil Bubba!" Whatever you think you need to do while you're playing rock or stump, don't do it. Sit. :) This can be very effective on whitetails at mid-day, as Ol' Bucky gets up to look around a bit, pee, and go back to bed.

Art

Overhill
April 20, 2007, 02:18 PM
I always take a squirrel call with me. Every once in a while, i will give it a few shots. This usually will get the deer thinking that any suspicious noise they may have heard was just some little critters doing their thing.

boltgun71
April 20, 2007, 05:08 PM
Assuming you have already spotted your game and are moving towards it.
If you think you can walk up-right, then walk hunched over.
If you think you can move hunched over, then high crawl.
If you think you can high crawl, then low crawl.
Always go one movement technique lower than you think you can get away with when you are stalking.
Use micro-terrain to your advantage like small depressions or rises in the land, tractor tire ruts when in a farm field, or dried stream beds and washouts.

williamd
April 20, 2007, 06:13 PM
Be sneaky and use your common sense. It ain't hard ... stalking, that is!:rolleyes:

buck460XVR
April 20, 2007, 06:34 PM
I've found when you think you're moving slow enough, you're not. It helps to know the area and terrain you'll be stalking in.....that way you don't waste time stalking "dead and empty" areas and you can use the structure in the area to your advantage. As far as always stalking into the wind.....I don't mind a little crosswind at times and sooner or later you have to go back the way you came. One trick I use is to circle an area with the wind cautiously and then slow way down as I return towards my starting point with my nose to the wind. I catch as many deer up and trying to escape by circling around my initial route(cuttin' em off at the pass) as I catch lying in their beds.

piercfh
April 23, 2007, 05:09 PM
I'm not sure if this is pertaining to turkeys, or just all game in general. Since it is turkey season here and we have been doing allot of slipping around in the woods Ill comment on recent experiences.

The most I have learned on this subject is from hunting with a friend. You can hear how your buddy walks, and see mistakes he makes. I critique my friends and they critique me. I def think that you cant hear yourself walk as good as a buddy walking along with you.

These are the main things that I go by about every time I am trying to be quiet in the woods.

-Take your time if possible, and wait for a good time to move.
-Also, if possible move when the wind blows.
-Rubber Boots are your friend.
-Stay out of the sun, and in the shadows.
-Hunt in the rain if you are up to it.
-Don't spook any animals in the woods if possible. Noise in the woods is like throwing a rock in a pond. Like a ripple effect.. One animal alerts another and so on and so forth.

enjoy the woods.

Frank

Jseime
April 24, 2007, 02:52 AM
Soft clothing that doesnt rustle- they hear it
Colours that blend in- look like a bush
Be veeeeeewwwwwy veeeeeewwwwwwwwy quiet- dont move just sit still and wait silently
Watch your quarry- when a coyote is coming in for example it swings its head from side to side to see better and when it is looking away then i move up for the shot and the next time it looks away its a goner.

Noonan
April 24, 2007, 10:46 AM
I don't know if you have ever seen a bobcat in the woods, but they are ALWAYS hunting. Moving slowly, quietly and always looking. Not worried about where they are going so much as what they can kill on the way.

Caimlas
May 29, 2007, 12:59 PM
Why are you all saying "be very very quiet"? If you're mostly quiet and make a random sound every now and then, you will spook the animal.

It's better to behave like a dumb bovine, provided you're staying out of sight and they're common in the area. If you've ever seen deer in a field with cattle, you'll know you're good to go. Just take a couple slow, lazy steps and then stop. You can try to walk quietly if you want. But deer have good hearing; you won't be able to trick them. Just make SURE you walk like a non-predator: consistently, and in spurts (as if you were eating whatever is around). Walk 10 feet, then stop and wait for 30 seconds (until the deer lose interest, if you can see them - then wait a little longer). Then walk again.

Provided the deer can't see you, walking up to a deer in this fashion is pretty easy. Squirrels don't spook deer - why should you? (Just stay down wind!)
I always take a squirrel call with me. Every once in a while, i will give it a few shots. This usually will get the deer thinking that any suspicious noise they may have heard was just some little critters doing their thing.

Really good idea! Thanks!

Lavid2002
May 29, 2007, 03:24 PM
Just got back from michigan! Stalked up to 6 deer! SHOT EM GOOD! .....With a camera that is....film sorry cant post pix......got within 10 feet of one doe with a fawn! She had a fat belly......
Thanks guys....P.S. took out some nasty critters with the .22 as I stalked the beautifull deer.

fisherman66
May 29, 2007, 03:26 PM
Scan the film picts and load 'em up. Nice job.

sparkysteve
May 29, 2007, 04:22 PM
GO SLOW!

Slow down until you think your going slow enough. Then cut your speed in half. Oh yeah, and be quiet.

jhgreasemonkey
May 29, 2007, 05:00 PM
One thing that has worked for me in the past.....
If you are spotted by the deer. Duck down and hide for a minute. Then peek back up carefully. Some times they stay put and go back to feeding. Sounds weird but thats how I got one a couple years back. Or if they start to trot off whistle really loud and in my experiences they stop and look at you giving you a chance to do your stuff.

SavageSniper
May 29, 2007, 05:23 PM
Sniper training 101. Move slowly from one tree to another, take about 5 min. before you move to look around real good. Let the deer make the move so you can see him. If you make normal noise like you hear in the woods, deer will hear it but will usually ignore it Unless you move or they smell you. Old man told me once- If they hear you, its ok. If the see you or smell you shoot quick. Better yet, buy a horse- cover up scent, transportation, stand and friend all rolled into one.

Lavid2002
May 29, 2007, 07:16 PM
I found siome natural trails that the deer walk on allot so it was clear of weeds etc... at least moreso than the rest of the woods, nice for walking quietly.

Slugthrower
May 29, 2007, 08:02 PM
Here is a little trick to use in your stalking tool box. Wait for the animal, especially deer, to have their head down and eating the local greenery. When they are chewing their food, it is like one of us eating a bowl of cereal. That crunching in their head helps to cover any sounds that they might otherwise detect in your movement. ;)