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ShootingNut
March 28, 2007, 07:46 AM
for a woman. My sister-in-law wants to go to war with all the squirrels ripping up her yard! Was thinking about trying a .22 LR Shotshell, but I told her
(and I'm not a long gun person) the range was only about 15 feet.
So, I suggested maybe a .410 Ga. Shotgun, was I right? Or would you experts suggest something else. No cannon's, as she just had back surgery!
Thanks!

charlie in md
March 28, 2007, 07:49 AM
I would try a scoped air rifle. Quiet and lethal on tree rats.

FirstFreedom
March 28, 2007, 09:51 AM
Well, yeah, in she's not in the city, such that noise is not an issue, then a .410 bore is perfect - just a single shot cheapie will do. $50-$75 used, if that. You are right that the .22 shotshells have a very short range - maybe out to 30 feet more like it. But the squirrels will wise up pretty quickly and not let her get so close - that's where she'll be glad she has the .410. Marlin made a "Garden Gun" a few years back - you might be able to find them used - has a smoothbore designed for .22 magnum shotshells - this will have a much better effective range than the .22lr shotshells, not only because it's a little more powerful round, but also because the shot won't spin and therefore will hold a nice pattern further.

Since she just had back surgery, if she gets a .410, she might want to stick with 2.75" shells, not 3" magnums, and also look for a heavy gun, not a featherweight. The NEFs are pretty heavy actually, so that might be the ticket.

imatt
March 28, 2007, 09:55 AM
We use a simple air pump action bbgun. Taken out quite a few squirrels... We open our kitchen window and shoot them off our bird feeder, 10 feet away.

kickshot85
March 28, 2007, 12:26 PM
It might not get rid of them, but I'm sure it would be funny as can be.:D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ZwhsD5XMC8

Have her stand out about ten yards ahead of the contraption with her newly aquired 410. Best of both worlds, squirrel elimination and practice for dove season.

Ruger4570
March 28, 2007, 02:51 PM
I have used a pump up pellet gun (20 cal) with good luck and occasionally a 22 with CB caps when they are out a little farther. The little tree rats are smart, now, if they even "hear" the window open, they are running away.

Rangefinder
March 28, 2007, 03:22 PM
No cannon's, as she just had back surgery!
So an M82-A1 is out? A cannon seems perfect then! No lifting involved, just light the fuse and stand back

Seriously though, a good pump pellet gun would be plenty for the tree-rat population. *phump, phump, phump..... POP!* No more squirrel.

Kickshot>> I like the way you think... LOL "PULL!" Add a beer keg and a couple relatives and you've got a redneck family reunion! (I'll be there!)

MDman
March 28, 2007, 03:42 PM
if you realy wanna kill squirels what you want is 17hmr. Savage makes a great one. there about 250$

Jeff Mulliken
March 28, 2007, 04:45 PM
Paint ball guns are great. No worry about shooting up the lawn furniture or killing a neighbor with a ricochet. And it allows you to shoot some of the furry little ba$tards lots of times, though you will get some 1 shot kills.

My father used his tube type birdfeeder to solve his tree rat problem in a crowded neighborhood. He took an extension cord, cut off the end and stripped back the wires. He hooked one wire to one metal bird perch and the other wire to a different perch. Birds could sit on a perch with no problem cause the would not close the circuit but when a rat climbed on and had fron feet on one perch and rear feet on the other whoaaaa! Some of them even lived through it a couple of times.

Oh, one more thing, to keep it safe he left it unplugged and when a rat got on the feeder he stood by the window and plugged it in.

Jeff

FirstFreedom
March 28, 2007, 04:51 PM
kickshot, that is awesome; thanks. "Pull"! :D

Here's another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4ET63h2YM0&mode=related&search=

ShootingNut
March 28, 2007, 07:02 PM
don't be so mean, they have to live too ya know! :)

cobra81
March 28, 2007, 07:35 PM
.17 HMR. No recoil to mention, and accurate.

wolverine350
March 28, 2007, 08:58 PM
A good 22 bolt action using 22 cb's, quiet as apellet rifle and will do the job effectivly, a nice savage mkII at wally world for 100.00, mine is an excellent shooter and very accurate:D

SpiritWalker
March 29, 2007, 12:28 AM
humm... pump air rifles are nice but pumping one up can be problematic for someone with a bad back. A CO2 pellet rifle would get the job done without the strain. I liked the paintball gun idea but I've never tried it.

I like the 410 ga so how about a Marlin Model 410 lever action (http://www.gunshopfinder.com/marlin/marlin410.asp)? 4 quick backup rounds just in case a squirrel charges her (although I don't know if the Marlin has controlled feed) and the ability to go to slugs if she comes up against Arnold Schwartzensquirrel or Squirrelzilla. :eek:

jrothWA
March 29, 2007, 01:38 AM
But they have to realize that they have to exercise the DOGGIE!!!
Nother is finer than excercising a Springer or Brit in the morning!!

chemist308
March 29, 2007, 03:03 AM
If she can pump or cock it, a scoped air rifle will do the trick.

Seeing she may not be able to do that, a scoped 22 is great and probably a little more humane. That was my first squirrel gun. If ranges are under 20 yards, I'd suggest 22 shorts be used, or subsonic 22 ammo as it won't travel as far. I have no experience with 22 shotshells, but my initial impression is they can't that good.

I don't know about recoil and back surgery so I hesitate to suggest a 410. If it's not an issue, that's another good choice. One trick I used to protect myself from 16 guage magnum loads was a bunch of tube socks draped over my shoulder. Worked, but that protected my shoulder not my back.

littlmak
March 29, 2007, 05:20 AM
If she's in the city limits she's asking for trouble using firearm. Might even be for an air rifle. Check w/LEO 1st. Might have to go the live trap route and take them to rural hardwood tree stand. OH yeah, I wouldn't let DNR know about the relocation project. I'm sure that's probably illegal in WI. without a permit too.

ebutler462
March 29, 2007, 10:01 AM
Use 22 cal. cb's. The police dept in my town is very understanding when it comes to the squirrel problem. The cb makes so little noise that the next door neighbor won't notice it unless they are actually looking at you. Sounds more like a twig snapping than a shot. The cops in most places are too busy with catching someone going 5 miles over the speed limit or failure to wear seat belts than they are to actually set up survellance on someone trying to eliminate the rodent problem.

PS: I am a retired cop. Been there, done that!!

biglabsrule
March 29, 2007, 10:48 AM
.22lr hollow points always do the trick if you can shoot reasonably well....

We used to use an old .310 rimfire shotshell with #12 but they don't make ammo...so I bought that crapy rat shot(.22lr), you shoot them and they get up and laugh at you,

next i bought a rossi .410 break single action

My local sports shop sold me 3" shells, I use them and damn put holes through the fence, just be carefull of what's beyond.... and you should have seen the poor red squirl, or what was left of him, entire head and one front paw was gooonnnee!

bloodtrail
March 29, 2007, 10:02 PM
I would opt for the .22
And with the right shot not much meat wasted........
Nothing like getting a bunch of squirrels rounded up and having some brats made up!
Go good with Old Milwaukees and kraut.......

buck460XVR
March 31, 2007, 01:14 PM
Paint ball guns are great. No worry about shooting up the lawn furniture or killing a neighbor with a ricochet. And it allows you to shoot some of the furry little ba$tards lots of times, though you will get some 1 shot kill


true Jeff, except for the part about no worry about shootin up things.....:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/buckanddot/birdfeeder.jpg

AZGunLover
March 31, 2007, 02:40 PM
I use a scoped Ruger 10/22 with .22 CB long. The CB won't cycle the action but the longs will work in the magazine and you can cycle it manually. It is very quiet but still powerful enough to go through a 2"x4".

banditt007
March 31, 2007, 11:52 PM
if you are talking grey/red type squirrels you might want to make sure there isnt a season on them ect. here in NY there is a season/bag limit ect, considered small game. things can get real nasty quick if you are killing game animals out of season. with that said i wouldnt use a .410. its more expensive to shoot and harder to find shells for, and isnt really good for much IMO. better off w/ a 12 or 20 gauge single shot. check out the ones from H&R quality and simple. and if you get it on a rifle reciever you can swap all sorts of shotgun AND rifle barrels onto it. they are like $100 or less.

CALNRA
April 1, 2007, 01:47 AM
I got some CB long today and shot them through a Marlin 22 autoloader. It's pretty quiet, no more than a loud airgun and got me a crow on the first shot. good stuff.

Diggers
April 1, 2007, 02:02 AM
WOW that launcher was AWESOME!!!:eek: A gift for the people next door!:D

Coltpale
April 2, 2007, 08:37 AM
this will take out some squirrels (http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh10-e.htm)

FirstFreedom
April 3, 2007, 02:20 PM
I will say, in response to suggestions of a rimfire, that I think a .410 shotshell or .22 mag shotgun (garden gun) is preferable here, mostly because she's not an experienced shooter and it gonna need all the help she can get in just making the hit, and b), it is much less dangerous than a rimfire in the event of a miss - doesn't carry nearly as far.

SpiritWalker
April 3, 2007, 07:01 PM
I agree with FirstFreedom, my personal preference for squirrel hunting is a .36 cal. flintlock Pennsylvania long rifle but what would be "best" in the situation described is the trusty 410. Safe and effective.

rgates
April 3, 2007, 07:29 PM
Is she in city limits or out ?

If in, a good air rifle. If out, a .22 .

My personal favorite is a Ruger 10/22 with CCI Mini-Mags or CCI Stingers.
Very accurate and deadly combination.

kristop64089
April 3, 2007, 08:02 PM
not to sound stupid but..........what are CB's?

CALNRA
April 4, 2007, 02:43 AM
CB=conical ball, a reduced charge 22 round that can be had in 22short, 22long(same case length as 22LR) sizes.