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Doug.38PR
March 16, 2007, 11:47 AM
Last week I went skeet shooting with my Remington semi auto.. For the first time since I got the gun, the tube started jamming up and not feeding shells. It happens when it gets to the very end and is empty and you try to reload that the red tab won't push back. It gets stuck and it takes A LOT of force and knocking around to get it to push back. Even when we took the spring out of hte other end it had wouldn't go back. We finally managed to get it to go, but each time it came time to reload I would have trouble with it.

charlie in md
March 16, 2007, 12:08 PM
Did you take the cap out completely? If not, you may want to in order to check if any grit or other material has gotten in between the cap and the interior surface of the magazine tube. Also, once you have gotten it out, check the receiver end of the mag tube to see if there is anything stuck to the inside. It is probably easiest to do this after removing the tirgger assembly.

good luck

C

kirbythegunsmith
March 17, 2007, 02:44 AM
Some times, after a bit of wear occurs, the parts show interferences from mis-alignment of the tube vs. the feed throat (flat piece on the tube top rear, barrel chamber positions directly over this) and sometimes the edges of the frame. If, for instance, the hole is slightly to one side more than the other, or if the tube is mis-positioned in some other similar manner, the edge of the tube may have more interference where it meets the frame seating area. (See feed throat in image, description near bottom of post)
The edge is always cut with a small taper or chamfer at the factory to make the follower have a proper seating area, and normally the fit is OK. After all, the follower is spring loaded to "pop" against the shoulder after the last shell clears. If there was a consistently poor fit in this situation, the follower would get a "wedging" action in very short order. Sticking followers would be the order of the day.

There are some special metal and plastic "anti-jam" followers available, but these are to help normal guns become more reliable under adverse conditions. The old-style factory metal follower is an upgrade, also.

The mis-aligned condition can cause the factory tool (also cleaning out excess silver solder bits at the same time) to fail to cut perfectly all the way around, or may not be cut to a sufficient depth to eliminate the "catching or wedging" condition.

The picture attached has a few points of interest. The edge of the feed throat is visible, from the underside perspective, as well as the long springy feed latch adjacent. Look at the magazine tube interior, just behind the feed throat, and you will see a patch of roughness. This mark is from the silver-soldering process to affix the feed throat into position. Sometimes that is a very rough mark, and I have seen little slivers of metal start to peel.

This area is able to be carefully smoothed, but the metal is very thin at this area, sometimes, and smoothing from grinding could cut through into the silver solder, so be careful. Sometimes less is more (prudent).

See my posts on THR, also.
kirbythegunsmith@hotmail.com

williamd
March 17, 2007, 01:30 PM
Toss the plastic follower and get an earlier metal one. A simply drop it in change. The plastic/nylon/wahtever does not do well with some solvents. Have several 1100/1187s all with metal followers and never a hiccup.

Doug.38PR
March 18, 2007, 06:17 PM
Thank y'all.