View Full Version : Your coyote/varmint gun.

The Terminator
February 23, 2007, 07:53 PM
I got this one in a trade today. I really did not have anything for coyote. I have a trip to hunt them planned in a couple of weeks. I am told that this one will drive tacks. It is a DPMS, stainless, bull barrel. What do you think?

The red dot is one that I had laying around. I have a Harris 13-30 bipod down in the basement that I will dig out after the range session tomorrow. Best - Ted

Yankee Doodle
February 23, 2007, 08:38 PM
I think you made a really stupid chioce. Too light a caliber for coyote. Way too light.
In order to do you a favor, I have a Marlin in 30-30 I will swap you even for. Much better gun for coyotes. :D :D :D
Hey, have a ball. I've shot them with a .22WMR with no problem.
Paint the gun white in case you run across Zumbo. Hunting with a black gun is really, really bad.

The Terminator
February 23, 2007, 08:41 PM
You really had my chain pulled for a second. I read the first line of your post as I was clicking on the link. :) What a hoot! Best - Ted

February 23, 2007, 08:58 PM
This is mine, haven't got a chance to shoot yet :(


February 23, 2007, 09:37 PM
Here in Pennsylvania we can use # 4 buckshot for all predators. # 4 buckshot does a fine job on all predators.

I like to use the 17 Rem Center Fire since it does not blow up the fur.

February 24, 2007, 10:36 AM
Nice weapons. Hey Hoytinak how did you get that to balance like that? Ooh, and why is there carpet on the wall?

Just a question on the red dot. How do you shoot distance with the red dot? Do you have to compensate for drop, or is there adjustment on the sight?

The Terminator
February 24, 2007, 12:16 PM
OK, I was able to get this scope loose from a set of super stuck rings last night. I drilled out the screws with a unibit. Worked fine. Is this better?

February 24, 2007, 06:35 PM
Sweet setups :) :D

February 24, 2007, 09:36 PM
I didn't know you could HUNT with an AR:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Isn't that an EBR?


Nice rifle, have fun!!!


The Terminator
February 24, 2007, 09:59 PM
Would anyone here believe that I was getting 3/4 and 1 inch groups at 100 yards today? Add to that, the scope is below average. It blurred when turned above 7x. I have a nice BSA Sweet 223 ordered for it. It should be in this week. Best - Ted


Dallas Jack
February 25, 2007, 02:32 AM
This would be my coyote rifle if I went coyote hunting. Bull barrel Double Star AR15 with 8.5-25 Meuller scope.

Dallas Jack

February 25, 2007, 09:08 AM
This is mine. It's a Rem 700 PSS in 223 with a Leuopold Mrk 4


February 25, 2007, 04:28 PM
by mikejonestkd

[I didn't know you could HUNT with an AR

Isn't that an EBR?

No, Mike, it's a HDR (Homeland Defense Rifle):)


February 25, 2007, 05:46 PM
Gas guns have no soul.

Make mine a bolt action everytime!

Your mileage may vary.


February 25, 2007, 10:55 PM
Here is mine. http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h245/kirbymagnum/PictureorVideo022.jpg

Fat White Boy
February 25, 2007, 11:12 PM
Picture thing still not working for me, but...

Browning Model 1885 Highwall in .22-250 with a Bushnell 5X20X40 Scope. My best shot so far? A ground squirrel at 320 yards. I hand load 52gr Sierra Match Grade HPBT bullets with 38.5 grains of IMR 4350 powder.

February 26, 2007, 01:10 PM
Would anyone here believe that I was getting 3/4 and 1 inch groups at 100 yards today?

Yes I would believe that...I would also be turning a lovely shade of envy green and going coyote hunting with a bolt action instead of an AR...blasted gun laws up here drive me halfways crazy.

February 28, 2007, 10:14 PM
I took mine out yesterday with the Sweet 223. 1" and .75" groups as well.

27.4 grains Varget pushing a 55 grain Nosler BT did the best.
26.5 was about an inch.

Congratulations, you made a very wise choice (ie, the same choice I made :D )

Do you have a factory trigger? I still have a crappy military trigger that I stoned up, but it is still pretty stout.

For a cheapie scope, that BSA is pretty nice. I can read the numbers on the target, spot bullet holes and see the grid lines on the paper at 100y.

ETA: this is the one that I have. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=225586

March 1, 2007, 12:06 PM
My varmint rig.
It's a great budget shooter with WC844 and a 55gr Remington PSP.

March 1, 2007, 04:13 PM

March 1, 2007, 05:04 PM

it's a HDR (Homeland Defense Rifle)

I don't own a AR but am 100% in favor of anyone that wants to.
I bought a Norinco MAC 90 in 94 when I thought they were about done. Little did I realize I was purchasing a HDR. Thanks for the idea.

I tell ya that saying is terrific a "Home Land Defense Rifle"
NO more "assault" from me I am going to try and not use guns in that context at all anymore. It's HDR or Varmint rifle from now on.

March 1, 2007, 05:35 PM
Here in Pennsylvania we can use # 4 buckshot for all predators. # 4 buckshot does a fine job on all predators.

Pretty much the same thing here in Ohio. Hunting with a rifle (other than a .22) is limited, and the shooting range is usually fairly short, so a 12-gauge with #4-buck would be my first choice as well. The Ithaca SxS double would work well, and doubles (pun intended) as a decent HD firearm.

March 2, 2007, 11:02 AM

Couldn't get it to shoot worth a flip last night. :D http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/3/5919230542.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4888983)

March 2, 2007, 11:54 AM
Sweet. That should work quite nicely.

Tangent: Why do people hang coyotes from fences? ...the other day down near my hunting land, some ol boy had hung 5 yotes on a barbed wire fence right up by the roadway. Just showing off his hunting prowess, or is this supposed to keep other yotes away?

March 2, 2007, 01:21 PM
Some folks in this part of the country seem to think it keeps coyotes away.:D Old wives tail IMO.


March 2, 2007, 05:06 PM
Some folks in this part of the country seem to think it keeps coyotes away. Old wives tail IMO.

Maybe, maybe not. When I was younger, I used to hunt the crows that were raiding our garden. My dad would go out and lay them out with their wings spread out near the garden. The other ones stayed away. Perhaps it was the sound of the .22 rifle shot that kept them away. I'll never know for sure.

March 2, 2007, 05:14 PM
It works for me Skeeter.
In the fall of the year we get what seems like thousands of crows for a few weeks that come into town and spend the night in the large trees.
We have a huge Maple in the back yard and they will land by the hundreds it seems. Making a mess of every thing under or near the tree.
If I get one with the pellet gun and lay in out in the middle of the back yard, wings spread, no crows will land in our tree until a few days after I move it. Trouble is it is still warm days and they can only be left a few days.

March 2, 2007, 07:22 PM
Skeeter 1:My dad would go out and lay them out with their wings spread out near the garden. The other ones stayed away.

rem33:If I get one with the pellet gun and lay in out in the middle of the back yard, wings spread, no crows will land in our tree until a few days after I move it.

When I was a youngster, we had very few crows in S. Tx. and only in the wintertime at that. Haven't seen a crow in many years, now. I wonder why that is? Don't doubt the crows stay away from the dead crows. The "birds eye view" would make such a scarecrow a bit more visible than a coyote hanging on a fence, though, admittedly the coyote is no slouch in visible abilities (or any other for that matter:) )

Humorous story regarding bird behavior; had trouble w/woodpeckers pecking holes in my deer blind, then the yellowjackets would enter the blinds and could be a real problem. Bought one of those paper mache (sp?) owls and mounted it on top of the blind. Worked great all deer season, but the next season came back and found the woodpeckers had pecked a hole in the owl! Not all bad, though, as the yellowjackets had nested in the owl, not the blind.:D


The Terminator
March 2, 2007, 07:27 PM
I think that she is coyote ready now. I got the scope and bipod on today. The new 20 round mags came in also. They won't scrape the table/ ground when shooting her. The bipod did not want to fit. I had to think about it a while, then, I cut two pieces of small rubber hose that I had, and used them to shim the space. Problem was that the qd swivel is larger than normal, creates a crack when trying to tighten down the bipod. What do you think now?

March 4, 2007, 03:28 PM

March 5, 2007, 10:31 PM
Hanging Coyotes and wolves on fence posts*

There is a history behind this odd behavior. Back a few years ago, the coyotes and wolves were a nuisance to certain farmers/ranchers. The local cattle associations and other livestock ranchers could petition the state to rid their area of pests like the coyotes and/or wolves. There were (and still are) federal and state game management hunters.

Before the days of information superhighways, before everyone even had telephones, when the exterminators came to your area, they would advertise there presence and success by hanging the exterminated vermin on the fence posts on routes to town.

There were state and federal hunters to cure such problem animals.

Today, there are still such people. I know a man who is a federal hunter, his title is game management ranger. He has frequent tasks of removing everything from pigeons to hogs to deer to skunks. He has areas that he has been tasked to remove coyotes year round and two places right now he has to go try and trap mountain lions.

He says whenever possible he darts some animals and relocates them. He also says it is usually not the case. A darted/drugged animal in a populated area is a bad idea.

The fence hanging started that way and now I think it has been passed down to bragging rights. Hanging a coyote on a fence will not stop others from entering that area. IMO. They live every day around dead animals. They die of old age sometimes. They don't evacuate the area because one dies.

Smoke Screen
March 8, 2007, 12:03 PM
Ouuu! Ouuu! I can't wait to post mine!! I'm actually going on a yote hunting trip in southern/central/northern Utah in 2 weeks. Just ordered a savage 12fv in .223, a 4x16 scope, bipod, etc... I'll post some pics as soon as I put all the pieces together!~! :)

March 8, 2007, 09:11 PM
Sweet rig, Nick. I have a very similar rig for long range varminting (26" Rem sendero "take-off" bbl in .243 win, mated to a mauser 98 action). What loads shoot well in your 700?

Thanks for the dope on yote-hangin, DF! :)

March 8, 2007, 09:18 PM

Thanks. I pretty much use the 55gr Win NBT's for varminting, even though I haven't had much chance to do any lately. The rifle prints about .7" groups @ 100y with that ammunition from the bench. According to the info I've read, the 700 VLS 26" bbl's turn rate is optimized for the lighter rounds in .243 as opposed to the heavy ones. Also, I took my first deer with this rifle... 95gr Win NBT at about 70 yards...rested on a low branch of a conifer.

I sure love her. Accurate, rugged and .... did I mention accurate? (Although you have to be in good shape to lug that thing up and down the hills of Mark Twain Nat'l Forest in the Ozarks. HA!

Fat White Boy
March 8, 2007, 10:29 PM
nickE- I have a VLS in .308...It is deadly- The longest shot I have made with it so far is 218 yards on a coyote using Milsurp 147g ammo...

March 8, 2007, 10:54 PM
Hey Fatwhiteboy... I bet it IS deadly! The thing i love about the VLS is the heavy varmint bbl and laminated wood stock... Its just a great lookin shootin gun! I've considered a 308 a number of times ... Hmmmm

Fat White Boy
March 8, 2007, 11:20 PM
It's weight is one of its assets- The recoil is minimal with the .308. All of my friends that shoot it, love it. I have a hunting round that I made up for it. I use 168 gr sierra bullet with 48gr of IMR 3031. I am going to use it on hogs later on this Spring...

March 11, 2007, 05:20 AM
Mine - 6mmAI. - Tricked out by Gordy's gun shop.

March 11, 2007, 05:29 AM
Cooper MTV in .223 AI.