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Doug.38PR
December 28, 2006, 12:11 AM
Interesting article from AOL. One question I have is the Third option. If you tell HIM to call another officer and he IS in fact a creep. All he is going to do is call a creep friend of his also dressed as a policeman to come convince you.

Updated:2006-12-27 15:33:13
Who Pulled You Over?
Is It a Cop -- or a Creep With a Fake Badge?
By ERIC PETERS

http://cdn.digitalcity.com/ch_autos/is_it_a_cop_122706kn


That navy blue sedan behind you with the flashing blue light on the dash is probably a cop -- but it could be a creep using police paraphernalia to get you to pull over.

How to tell the difference? And what should you do if you're not sure?

In the United States, almost all traffic enforcement work is done by police driving one of the following vehicles:

- Ford Crown Victoria sedan
- Chevy Impala sedan (some departments also use the smaller Malibu and the Lumina sedans as well, though the majority in service today are Impalas)
- Chevy Tahoe SUV
- Dodge Charger

The problem is that these vehicles are also sold to civilians -- and it's pretty easy to dress one up so that it looks very much like an undercover police car. In fact, there are police supply stores that will sell everything a dirtbag needs to make himself look like the real deal -- right down to the uniform and fake ID.

Some departments also use unconventional cars for pursuit work. For example, the Ford Mustang LX 5.0 was very popular in the 1980s for speed limit enforcement; today, some departments use unmarked Camaro Z28s -- and even Corvettes -- for the same purpose.

This is pretty scary, since we're all taught to obey the commands of law enforcement officers -- and when a police-looking car is trying to get us to pull over, every instinct tells us to comply.

Still, it's important to use your head.


First, have you done something to deserve being pulled over? If you've been driving within 5-mph of the posted speed limit and haven't broken any traffic laws that you're aware of, your guard should be up if all of a sudden there's an unmarked car on your tail with its lights flashing -- especially if it's out in the middle of nowhere and late at night. While radar traps are a reality, most of the time, we get pulled over for a reason -- and we know perfectly well what it is. So if you honestly haven't done anything wrong that you're aware of -- and the "officer" just appeared out of nowhere -- you're right to be suspicious -- particularly if you are female and traveling alone.

Second, If the vehicle attempting to pull you over is not a clearly marked police cruiser -- or a car or truck that isn't routinely used for police work (especially if it's an older/broken down-looking vehicle) and your "creep radar" is telling you something's just not right -- you should slow down (to indicate you are not trying to get away, in case it is a real police officer), signal your intent to pull over -- but only do so when you can find a well-lit, public place with other people around, such as a shopping mall parking lot. Or, you can pull over immediately -- but keep your doors locked and only crack the window enough to pass your driver's license and registration through.

Third, get a good look at the "officer" and his credentials. If the "officer" is not in uniform, refuses to show you his badge -- or just flashes it briefly, so you can't get a good look -- keep that window rolled up and those doors locked tightly. Ask once more to see his credentials. If he won't let you, tell the "officer" that you'd like for him to call another officer to the scene. This is your right -- and while it may aggravate the officer if he is in fact the real deal, it could save your life if he's not. A real officer will understand your concern and have no problem with calling a fellow officer (or supervisor) to the scene. There have been several case of women being abducted and raped by thugs impersonating police -- and most departments are very sensitive to people's legitimate concerns on this score.


Fourth, if the "officer" starts acting oddly when you ask to see his ID -- threatening you, behaving in a non-professional manner, pounding on your door, etc. -- seriously consider putting the car in gear and getting out of there. Tell the "officer" you are uncomfortable and that you will gladly follow him (or be escorted to) to the nearest police station. If you have a cell phone, immediately dial 911 -- and tell the operator that you have been pulled over by someone who claims to be a police officer but that you think he might not be a real cop. Tell the operator exactly where you are -- and stay on the line. If it's a real officer, you'll know very soon. If it's not, the guy will almost certainly take off at this point. (Caution: Only take this step in a situation that clearly doesn't feel right as you risk an "attempt to elude" charge if it is, indeed, a real police officer. But again, better safe than sorry given the stakes.)

These precautions -- and some common sense -- should keep you from getting anything worse than another traffic ticket.


2006-11-07 09:39:51

G-Cym
December 28, 2006, 01:04 AM
If you are indeed forced to pull away from the stop, don't speed away or break any other laws. Go the speed limit, or under, and perhaps even turn your emergency flashers on. If it is a real officer, make it obvious you are not a criminal trying to evade arrest. Don't turn it into a high speed chase.

teejhot.40cal
December 28, 2006, 01:45 AM
Another good idea is to call 911 or another number where law enforcement can be reach. They will know or be able to find out very quickly if he is an officer or a creep. The other advantage is if he isn't an officer, you have already called for help and the real police will probably know before you do and will be heading in your direction.

BillCA
December 28, 2006, 02:08 AM
Interesting article.

Here's something else to consider. The "red light rapists" as they are sometimes known, most often use dash mounted emergency lights or the small magnetic mount lights that can be quickly dismounted from the roof. They seldom have roof-racks full of lights or loud sirens.

Having had the experience of an unusually marked vehicle try to pull me over, here's a simple criteria you can use;
1. Roof-mounted lighting -- lack of it is clue #1
2. Slow down and maybe signal but don't stop until you hear a loud siren. Most fakes can't afford the expense of a real siren unit and don't want to use it to attract attention. A weak or odd-sounding siren is suspect. Lack of a siren is clue #2 (and probably the best one).
3. Make a turn in a well lighted area at night and watch your mirrors. Can you see any obvious markings on the unit? Most traffic units are clearly marked with the agency logo on the door and/or contrasting colors.
4. Wait for back-up. If you don't stop and drive slowly, he'll radio it in. Chances are that after a few minutes another unit will arrive. If you know the area reasonably well, go around the same block repeatedly until a second unit arrives.

If the unit behind you fails #1 and #2, use a cell phone to dial 911 and get help. Expect real cops to approach you with great caution, keep your hands visible and at your first opportunity let them know why you were apprehensive. If you can articulate why, they will understand. If they add some kind of infraction to the ticket, you can usually get a judge to dismiss it if you can show logical arguments for the actions (i.e. no siren).

As to the vehicles police use, the article included;
- Ford Crown Victoria sedan
- Chevy Impala sedan (some departments also use the smaller Malibu and the Lumina sedans as well, though the majority in service today are Impalas)
- Chevy Tahoe SUV
- Dodge Charger

California Highway Patrol (CHP) uses all-white Camaro Z-28's with low-profile, clear-lens L.E.D. lightbars for some traffic enforcement. These are clearly marked on the doors as CHP units however. They also use Dodge Ram pickup trucks for commercial truck enforcement but these units can and do stop passenger cars at times.

One California city experimented with Volvo police vehicles for a time. They had too many issues with the vehicles, plus more than a few people not stopping because they didn't think it was a real PD vehicle.

All he is going to do is call a creep friend of his also dressed as a policeman to come convince you.

Red-light rapists usually work alone. If they team up, it would be very unusual for them to have identical vehicles and equipment on them. It's more likely two of them would team up in identical uniforms in the same vehicle.

oldbillthundercheif
December 28, 2006, 04:35 PM
I was once pulled over by a beat-up jeep with a rinky-dink rotating red light and no siren. It did not look like a cop. I slowed down to 5 mph and crept to a place on the highway 100 yards or so down the road that was well-lit...

It turned out to be a rural LA K9 officer and he was not amused. I got to experience a "felony stop" where I was tackled and handcuffed while he yelled: "Why were you runnin' from me?! Why'd yew run?!". My friends in the car got the same treatment. Then he spent about an hour tearing my car apart looking for whatever cops look for while I layed around handcuffed on the side of the road in the rain.

They impounded my car and arrested me for "evasion" or some such nonsense. The charge was thrown out once I was able to explain in court that he was not driving a police car so I just slowed way down until we came to a well-lit area. The cop did not show up for the court date to explain his actions.

If you are pulled over, pull the hell over to the side of the road no matter if it looks like a cop car or a golf-cart with christmas-lights on it. You will have a bad night if you don't.

V4Vendetta
December 28, 2006, 04:55 PM
If you are pulled over, pull the hell over to the side of the road no matter if it looks like a cop car or a golf-cart with christmas-lights on it. You will have a bad night if you don't.

I just have to say this. IGNORE THE ABOVE COMMENT!!! You'll have a worse night if you end up with a slit throat because of a imposter. Wait until you can find a public area if you feel your gut telling you to.

I got to experience a "felony stop" where I was tackled and handcuffed while he yelled

Did you get out of your car & try to run after you pulled over? That's the only way I can think of that you could be tackled by a cop. I mean how do you tackle somebody in a car?:confused:

Another way to tell if it's a real officer is that real cops usually wear a black glossy belt with a buckle that has 2 prongs instead of the usual 1 prong. That may be hard to observe for most people but I make some of those belts so I can tell the difference.

Apart from that, look at the lights the "police" have. In NC, you have to be a police official to have the blinking blue LED lights. I think it's also a federal law but I'm not sure.

badbob
December 28, 2006, 04:55 PM
Looks like "damned if you do, damned if you don't". I don't see an easy solution.

badbob

badbob
December 28, 2006, 05:01 PM
I think it's also a federal law but I'm not sure.

V4, since when did a criminal care about a law?

badbob

sanson
December 28, 2006, 05:01 PM
women are told by police instructors to pull over but stay in the car. only open the window enough to slide out your license.

V4Vendetta
December 28, 2006, 05:20 PM
V4, since when did a criminal care about a law?

Good point.:o

Jason607
December 28, 2006, 05:27 PM
What the common citizen, or even felon can buy out there to impersonate an officer can be had cheaply, and easily. Maby not real cheal or real easy but if can be done. I am heavily into the 5.0 Mustang thing, the former Highway Patrol units are very popular, most keep the old pait scheme (the GSP scheme looks real good) and even they have gone to add the wig-wags and other things to make them look like the cars they used to be. One of the original cars from the Andy Griffith show is near me. But anyone knows they are not used as patroll cars anymore.

I knew a guy who owned a 2003 Crown Vic Police Interceptor Package, and had all the lights, sirens, radios. He was a PI for a living, but not for LE, but for say busting your spouse cheating or for insurance fraud cases. He even had a badge which was basically certification, kind of like what a bounty hunter would have. There is no need for that.

One thing is good is that when an impersonation incedent does happen, LEO jumps on it hard core. Unless a criminal pulls it only once on a Brinks truck after all the cash pickups, it won't be profitalbe.

I think the artical above is a good guide. However if the police make a stink about it, your paying the Legal Fees. If you don't have a lawyer, your going to loose most likley. It might not be official, but in traffic court, you have the burden to prove yourself innocent, that is the court's agenda. A lawyer is needed to keep the courts straight. I remember one time I was ticketed for running a stop sign, which I didn't so I fought it. The judge said "Do you have any proof you did not run the sign". I said "I said I didn't, and it's the job of the prosecution and officer to prove I did." The judge informed me that isn't how it worked, and that I was "one of those" when I replied "innocent until proven guilty" then laughed and called me a smart ass, and said because of that, I am guilty. Slapped me with a $350 fine. When I tried to complain, I got the runaround by the other courts.

sanson
December 28, 2006, 06:04 PM
Or the judge says "NOT GUILTY" and slams you with $100 court costs which they need no justification for

oldbillthundercheif
December 28, 2006, 06:18 PM
He ordered me out of the car while screaming: "don't look at me!"
While I had my back turned as he had instructed he ran over and tackled the hell out of me. That's how you get tackled during a traffic stop. No running required.

I'm so glad I told this story... so a person who has named themselves after the most retarded paranoid-fantasy film ever made can accuse me of being a liar... I love the internet.

sanson
December 28, 2006, 06:20 PM
that cop sounds like an ***hole // I guess anyone can be

Huchahucha
December 28, 2006, 07:32 PM
Another good point is to try and get a look at the license plates. Usually cop cars have government plates on them.

VUPDblue
December 28, 2006, 10:39 PM
In Indiana, police officers who can initiate a traffic stop must be in a clearly marked police vehicle with agency badging on sides of vehicle. They can be in plain clothes only if they are in this clearly marked vehicle. Officers who initiate traffic stops when driving unmarked vehicles must be in full uniform. Lots of departments even go so far as to require them to wear their dress headwear. ie mountme hats...

63Belair
December 29, 2006, 02:01 AM
Your best bet is to roll down your window a little bit and slide out your ID and registration/insurance (depends on the state) and if you really are uncomfortable ask the officer to radio in for another unit. Usually if a male officer makes the stop on a woman they can call in a female officer. From working with the police in my town (and I know this will vary from town to town) we only have one officer per car, but as soon as any one officer on patrol makes a stop, another unit is dispatched to back them up, no matter what.

Ct.
December 29, 2006, 04:51 AM
You turned your car off while you wait for the officer or don’t have it in gear your uncomfortable you ask for another officer to come to prove his authenticity he pulls his baton smashes your window and drags you out then what? I mean if he's not a real cop and thinks dam she’s pretty I want her and he has every intent on raping the female driving the car she’s stuffed isn’t she?

If you don't believe its a cop I would just ignore them and drive normal speed to the closest police station until I saw more police cars or a road block.

or pull over if he pulls over drive off once has gotten out of his car then proceed to the police station I mean if you have any doubt don't take the risk

Glenn E. Meyer
December 29, 2006, 11:53 AM
San Antonio had an incident where a women was suspicious of an unmarked car, turned on her flashers and drove to a convenience store. The officer was very rude to her - it made the tube and the officer was disciplined and the chief apologized, IIRC.

V4Vendetta
December 29, 2006, 01:23 PM
I'm so glad I told this story... so a person who has named themselves after the most retarded paranoid-fantasy film ever made can accuse me of being a liar... I love the internet.

1. I didn't say you were a liar. I said I couldn't picture being tackled while in a car. Though when I picture tackleing, my mental picture is Troy Aikmin smashing another player to the ground.

2. I chose my name after the book which was much more realistic & better than the movie. The movie is still good though.:)

wayneinFL
December 29, 2006, 01:37 PM
"Apart from that, look at the lights the "police" have. In NC, you have to be a police official to have the blinking blue LED lights. I think it's also a federal law but I'm not sure."

Not federal. You can buy the blue lights here, you're just not allowed to impersonate a law enforcement officer. Either way, I doubt someone intent on rape or murder really cares what the law says.

Lots of unmarked cars around. The other day I saw someone pulled over by a blue chevy blazer.

badbob
December 29, 2006, 02:43 PM
oldbill, I don't think V intended to insult you. Things don't always "type out right", if you know what I mean. It's just my opinion, but I enjoyed the movie. I think it pretty well showed what's happening now, as your (and my, BTW) experience shows.

badbob

Dino.
December 29, 2006, 03:53 PM
I just heard a story on the news this morning where a woman, impersonating a police officer, pulled a car over. She told the driver they could handle it the "hard way" or the "easy way". She then collected $50 from the driver and went on her way.
True story!

I've seen this happen in movies, but it never ends in the exchange of cash. :D

BillCA
December 29, 2006, 10:14 PM
Dino,

You've never lived in NYC or some of the eastern big cities, have you? :D It used to be well known in parts of NY, NJ, PA and some other states that if you folded a $10 up behind your license you'd only get a warning. The amount varied but that's the way business was done during the 50's and 60's in some places.

But graft is somewhat off the topic.

In a large number of places it is fairly easy for someone to get away with impersonating an officer due to rural conditions or infrequently patrolled areas. The key thing is to keep one's calm, evaluate the situation and drive slowly towards a busy public place or a local PD/FD station. Driving slow keeps the danger level down for you & the PD which will turn out better for you in the long run.

Fremmer
December 29, 2006, 10:57 PM
One California city experimented with Volvo police vehicles for a time. They had too many issues with the vehicles

There's a big surprise. :rolleyes:

tony pasley
December 30, 2006, 11:44 PM
If concerned about being stopped use your cell phone and call the highway patrol. Asking the dispatcher if a officer is making a stop, report that you are concerned and going to stop in a well lighted area. The reason for calling before stopping is the dispatcher can confirm the stop also will advise the officer your intent to stop in a safe place. The highway patrol will also notify locals if it is a fake officer and will be waiting on the fake where you stop.

Capt Charlie
December 31, 2006, 01:45 PM
If concerned about being stopped use your cell phone and call the highway patrol. Asking the dispatcher if a officer is making a stop, report that you are concerned and going to stop in a well lighted area. The reason for calling before stopping is the dispatcher can confirm the stop also will advise the officer your intent to stop in a safe place.
That's a good idea, Tony, but there's a potential problem in that.

A lot of jurisdictions have multiple agencies active in the same area. Here, we have the highway patrol, sheriff's dept., township police, and municipal police, and the right hand doesn't always know what the left hand's doing.

Our policy is, unmarked cars will not make traffic stops unless the situation is an extreme emergency, and a fully decked-out "Tijuana Taxi" is unlikely to be anything other than a legitimate LEO.

Dwight55
December 31, 2006, 06:17 PM
One of the few things I do like about Ohio, . . . I have never seen anyone pulled over by an unmarked police car.

I have watched the "Cops" shows where they do it regularly in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, . . . and assume it is done in other places, . . . but I will in no case ever pull over for anything short of Cpt. Charlie's Tiahuana Taxi.

I have all three local sheriff's numbers and the OHP programmed onto my cell, and they will be getting a call, . . . and I'll be doing an OJ runaway while I am looking for a good place to land my vehicle.

I may some day have to stand in front of a judge for my actions, . . . but I really like that as an alternative to being the subject of a 2:00 pm autopsy.

May God bless,
Dwight

tony pasley
December 31, 2006, 10:05 PM
If it is not Highway Patrol, they will send a unit to your location if you are not in a city. In a city the highway patrol will notify locals to what is happening and get a local sent.

rickster
January 1, 2007, 09:52 AM
Getting back to the basics of this dicussion, if your gut tells you something is not right, it probably isn't. If you are close to a well lit area, by all means, drive there and stop. If not, stop and only crack open your window enough to communicate and hand out the proper paperwork. If something still doesn't feel right, get out your cell phone and confirm the stop.

Guess this is where the old saying comes into play. "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6."

shep854
January 1, 2007, 10:18 AM
If lit up, I slow down, turn on flashers (in my truck, where flashers do't work, I will wave to acknowledge the officer) and drive to a lit, populated area.

I had this happen once. It was at night, and I noticed a police car next to me. Since I have some friends who are LEOs, I looked closely to see if I knew the officer(I didn't). He saw me looking over, and when I looked away, he got curious and ran the tag. Because I was slow changing registration (I had recently bought the truck), he hit his lights. I slowly drove to an open gas station, and we discussed the issue

NCHornet
January 1, 2007, 01:43 PM
Good topic, this actually happened to my wife about 17 years ago when we lived in CA. My wife is a very beautiful woman and has had problems with guys following her and what not. I made a point one Sat to show her how to get to every police, sherrif, or HP staion between work and home. I was happy I did because about 6 months later a guy pulled up next to her dressed in what looked like a policemans uniform and flashed a badge at her and told her to pull over. It was very dark outside and it didn't seem right to her, especially when the idiot starting yelling and screaming. Her brother is a San Bernardino County deputy and our best friend is a LA County deputy, and she knew they wouldn't be yelling at her they would be on the radio, anyway she proceeded to drive right into the employee parking of the police station right up to the back door where several cops were having a smoke. The perp kept on driving. I hate to think what might of happened if she would have pulled over.
I believe this sort of crime is pretty rare but feel you should be prepared nonetheless. In NC I have seen LOE's driving everything from Camry's. F250's you name it, and with no visible markings at all. These are mostly for the truckers but can pull anybody over. If the unit has a full light bar on top I would feel fine about pulling over. If the car just had the lights in the grill I would probably still pull over and look over the cops dress and equipment as he exits the car. If he has the Radio Shack special light on the dash, no way!!
I agree with calling 911 if you live in an area serviced by one agency, but here we have local police, sherrif, and HP so it can be difficult. If in doubt head for a police station or wait for another marked unit, but don't speed away. Better to have a ****** off cop than be dead.

Duxman
January 3, 2007, 12:04 PM
Great topic and very informative posts.

Thanks everyone.

Tripplethreat
January 5, 2007, 08:14 PM
It has been a law for sometime in my state that a police vehicle used for stops has to be marked with 6 inch high letters.A detective or a task force undercover unit usually calls in a marked patrol unit to make the initial stop,unless it is an extreme emergency. It should be conducted this way throughout the US,so the citizenry will know it's legitimate.
Granted there are some very dark gray DUI task force cars with black lettering that doesn't show up well in day light ,much less at night.
This is, of course, an attempt to hide the car from real violaters while at the same time to be in keeping with the requirements of state law.
I can certainly see where they are coming from with this,but generally a police vehicle used to make any traffic stop should be well marked even if the takedown lights are hidden until put into use.

delta58
January 7, 2007, 04:03 PM
Our county LE has been using Dodge Durangos (unmarked), but the officers are in uniform. I think the main thing is if your are suspcious drive to a well lit, public area while OBEYING the speed limit, and probably having your flashers won't hurt.

GreyFox
January 7, 2007, 05:06 PM
Very good topic, I got pulled over once, while, um Street Racing, by a fake, he had no intent on talking to me, I flew past him like a jerk ( i was young) and he pulled up on my bumper and turned on a blue strobe light, i guess maybe he was a fire fighter i dunno, but anyway, i pulled over and he flew by, I was quite relieved, I would like to add to what one guy said, the license plates are USSUALLY clearly labled with MG (municipal goverment)then some numbers or CG County Goverment) or (you guessed it the worst one to encounter) SG (state goverment) Allthough I know for a fact my local municipality has a red dodge stratus that has a normal liscense plate. I have seen it pull over quite a few cars and my fiance works for the county and handles all of the county purchases. I also don't think that the unmarked cars are out on routine nightly patrols pulling over people around here. I have also never seen a stop that a second police vehicle pulled up before the officer even got out of his cruiser at night. (I was pulled over my fair share of times) I also live in a more populated area, I would Imagine the mountains and such are handled differentlly.

bigmike0176
January 19, 2007, 11:31 AM
Here in Iowa, they use unmarked cars alot on the interstates,no markings at all including regular plates.But they always have uniformed officers driving. And as far as I know any plain clothed officer has to car in a uniformed officer to initiate a stop.

markj
January 19, 2007, 03:40 PM
They just caught a guy acting as an officer the other day. Still dont know what he was after. He did it in front of an LEOs vehicle too. he is still in jail waiting for a trial. He pulled a gal over right in front of a cop, dumb move on his part.

Be careful and dont break any laws, make sure all of your lights work and you should have no reason to be pulled over.

markdido
January 27, 2007, 06:20 PM
- Ford Crown Victoria sedan
- Chevy Impala sedan (some departments also use the smaller Malibu and the Lumina sedans as well, though the majority in service today are Impalas)
- Chevy Tahoe SUV
- Dodge Charger

The problem is that these vehicles are also sold to civilians

LEOS are civilians too..... :D

wolfsong
January 28, 2007, 01:01 AM
"though when I picture tackling, my mental picture is Troy Aikmen smashing another player to the ground". Sorry, but I don't think Troy Aikmen EVER smashed another player to the ground, let alone tackled one with any conviction. I have seen him get drilled a couple of times, though. Back to the subject at hand, this was discussed over at Glock Talk on the law enforcement thread. I posed some of the same logical reactions that others have suggested here such as driving to a well lit area or populated area etc. and was crucified by virtually all of the LEOs that responded to the thread. Looks like a no win situation, but then life has it's share of unfair circumstances. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather face the wrath of a pi$$ed off cop and take my lumps than be carjacked\robbed\killed by an imposter. I hope this never happens to me or you. Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.

Dwight55
January 28, 2007, 04:09 PM
Sometimes it is ironic how these things work out, . . . Columbus, Ohio has it's own version going, . . . some wierdo in a full size Ford (they think) who has tried to pull several women over.

It made the TV news, . . . but I couldn't find any details in the paper. TV did show a full size Crown Vic with a reporter, . . . saying that anyone could buy the light bar, paint on stripes, etc. and that everyone should be careful until the perp was apprehended.

Still don't know where it finally ended.

May God bless,
Dwight

MikeGoob
February 6, 2007, 04:46 PM
how bad would it be to just pull over and call 911. Tell the guy who comes to your window that you called 911.

If you have a legit concern it shouldnt be a penalty to call.

AR15FAN
February 7, 2007, 09:51 PM
Just arrested a guy today here on Long Island that was impersonating an officer and stopping cars and taking them in the line of duty, or so he said. Here is a blurb:

"A Holbrook man accused of pretending to be a cop could now face some real prison time.

Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota says Henry Terry impersonated a police officer on several occasions. Spota claims Terry pulled over drivers for apparent traffic violations and other crimes, and ticketed them. Terry allegedly collected money on the spot as fines. According to Spota, Terry used an unmarked car with a siren, police badges and handcuffs in his ruse.

Terry has previously served time behind bars for impersonating a police officer. Spota says Terry acquired the uniforms and badges from the Internet."

shep854
February 7, 2007, 11:28 PM
Good one, AR15FAN! Now, if you could have just given some informal counselling...:eek: