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mgdavis
December 9, 2006, 09:37 PM
I got my girlfriend a S&W 642 a while back. She got her CPL and wants to carry, but can't figure out how to hide the revolver. She doesn't want to dress around the piece very much. How do women out there conceal? We're thinking an OWB holster of some kind. Suggestions, experiences?

TonyM1
December 9, 2006, 09:42 PM
How about a concealed gun purse? There are a wide variety of them out there, I'm sure she could find a design she likes.

mgdavis
December 9, 2006, 09:48 PM
I'd prefer on-the-body carry, and I've got her thinking the same way. Her purse always winds up incredibly cluttered, and there is also the possibility of a purse snatching.

JohnKSa
December 9, 2006, 09:58 PM
Well, the purse-snatching concern is genuine--as for the clutter, concealment purses typically have a special compartment for the handgun so it's kept away from the clutter and is more rapidly accessible.

My wife carries a "pocket pistol" in a wallet holster in the front pocket of her jeans.

Here are some helpful tips from a woman. Look under "Practical Issues".

http://www.corneredcat.com/TOC/TOC.htm#Practical

Mannlicher
December 9, 2006, 10:08 PM
If she wears jeans, she can do as the guys do, and wear a holster IWB, with a shirt worn over it.

mgdavis
December 9, 2006, 10:50 PM
Well, Mannlicher, it would be great if I could convince her to dress around the gun to that extent. However she dresses like many other 21 year old women, which doesn't leave much room in the waistband for a pistol. Buying a new wardrobe would be cost prohibitive, though I'm sure she would love to. I guess I'm just looking for ideas from other women who have already gone through this.
Thanks to the link to Cornered Cat, I should have thought of it earlier.

chemist308
December 9, 2006, 11:30 PM
Uh that's a hard one...body cavity!

Just kidding. :) Seriously, though I always thought women had it easier since they have the option of a purse. Heck you could probably conceal my Ruger Vaquero in a purse...

Pointer
December 9, 2006, 11:33 PM
The same as men... :)

Plus a purse or a fanny pack... ;)

dojpros
December 10, 2006, 12:27 AM
If she wants to carry and conceal the gun effectively, she will have invest in a quality holster and a quality belt and dress arround the firearm. The belt slots of the holster must match the width of the double thick dedicated gunbelt. To parphrase Clint Smith- you carry a firearm to be comforting, not comfortable.
Anything short of above is a receipe for not having the firearm when you need it most.

SKN
December 10, 2006, 04:18 AM
See http://womensholsters.com/page2/page2.html

Chris Carpenter is a female custom holster maker out of West Linn Oregon.

mgdavis
December 10, 2006, 03:03 PM
Thanks SKN, great info on that link.

tanksoldier
December 11, 2006, 01:40 AM
Well, how about one of these:

http://static.flickr.com/140/319336917_64091d9cb0_o.jpg

tegemu
December 11, 2006, 07:26 AM
The best advice you could possibly get would be from PAX on her website www.corneredcat.com , as previously mentioned. A website for and about women and guns, by a woman.

skeeter1
December 11, 2006, 07:56 AM
I rarely carry, but my favorite is a fanny-pack worn on the front. Nobody knows what's in there, you can get at it quickly, and it's a lot harder to steal than a purse. Just a suggestion.

marlboroman84
December 11, 2006, 08:15 AM
There's a young girl that works at my local range and she wears the normal 18-25 set clothes. She also carries a 1911 Kimber. She wears it in an IWB holster and doesn't dress around it that much, a jacket, an open sweater shirt thingy, etc. If she doesn't want to carry it in some type of purse or fanny pack (which I despise) she is going to have to dress around it to a degree.

I have the option of open carry here so I don't worry about dress style to much, plus I have the option of wearing cargo pants, baggy shirts, etc. Not usually what the typical lady wears out. :D

ATW525
December 11, 2006, 08:34 AM
The future Mrs. ATW is tackling much the same problems. The 642 is a small gun, though, and there's a variety of holster option available. If she wears clothing with pockets, a pocket holster might be an option that's fairly unobtrusive. A belly band is also a possibility that could work under a variety of clothing styles that might not support a holster and sturdy gun belt.

stephen426
December 11, 2006, 08:48 AM
If she wears jeans, she can do as the guys do, and wear a holster IWB, with a shirt worn over it.

Mannlicher... A lot of women's shirts are cut shorter than men's shorts and are not designed to be tucked in (especially for the age demographic mentioned). If some women can't even keep their thong from peeking out, how do you expect them to conceal a gun? :eek: :D (Not that I'm complaining)

Tank Soldier... While that certainly is a nice picture (Costume Party?) thigh holsters are supposed to be worn with the gun on the inside of the thigh, otherwise the gun will print (especially with that nice tight fitting dress).

I think fanny packs are great for women since they are not as easy to snatch as purses. Furthermore, they allow a larger gun to be carried which means easier to shoot, more powerful cartridge, and more rounds (compared to mouse guns). Women can get away with carrying fanny packs without people thinking "GUN" much more easily then men. Fanny pack carry keeps the gun in front of you and allows for easier access than a purse that moves around on your side.

Another option is ankle carry if your wife wears pants fairly often. This is slower to draw from and she must really practice often in order to have a fair chance of getting the gun into play. One problem is that many womens' pants are tapered at the legs unless they are suit type pants. Ankle carry also limits your choice to smaller handguns.

If where you live is pretty cold, hip carry is an option with a jacket. With a jacket, she could even wear a shoulder holster or carry in her jacket pocket. If she has to remove her jacket often (going indoors), the best thing is pocket carry.

Good luck and lets us know if you guys find any innovative solutions. I keep trying to get my wife to carry but I'm having a hard time.

mvpel
December 11, 2006, 09:21 AM
One advantage women have over men in the use of a SmartCarry holster is the lack of the psychological hurdle most men must overcome to carry that way.

http://www.smartcarry.com/4.jpg (http://www.smartcarry.com)

Vic303
December 11, 2006, 11:12 AM
As a woman, I usually carry IWB, 1911, VM-II, Wilderness Instructors belt. Other modes are fanny pack (at the stores when kids are in tow, no one even notices the fannypack.), dedicated CCW purse (www.coronadoleather.com), or Smartcarry holster.

Samurai
December 11, 2006, 11:12 AM
Most of the women I know who carry have a carry purse. But there's this one girl......

OK. Here's what she did. She bought one of the revolvers made from the lightweight alloy... (what's it called?). Anyway, then she hung the thing in a snap-holster on a lanyard around her neck, with the rope of the lanyard under her bra for stability. She was proportioned well enough so that the gun would conceal under her shirt.

She actually spent LOTS of time behind a sewing machine to get this rig all set up so that it would work, straps the right length and all. It was pretty ingenious.

This is probably not possible for most women, but I thought I'd share. It may give someone a new idea that might work better than what's out there.

stephen426
December 11, 2006, 12:14 PM
One advantage women have over men in the use of a SmartCarry holster is the lack of the psychological hurdle most men must overcome to carry that way.

Thunderwear for women... Is that a pistol in your pants or are you happy to see me? While there is no psychological hurdle, don't you think a woman with a bulge down there would look weird? :eek:

mvpel
December 11, 2006, 12:33 PM
The thing about SmartCarry is that people are socially conditioned not to stare at other people's crotches.

marlboroman84
December 11, 2006, 01:48 PM
The thing about SmartCarry is that people are socially conditioned not to stare at other people's crotches

ROFL! I'm also gonna guess no one would question the bulge if they did see it!

Recon7
December 12, 2006, 10:25 AM
The thing about SmartCarry is that people are socially conditioned not to stare at other people's crotches.

uuugh 21 year old females get stared at a lot in all sorts of places.

dave421
December 13, 2006, 02:00 AM
I guess it depends on what she likes to wear but if she's "larger" chested (c or more I guess) then I've seen a bra somewhere that had provisions for a holster underneath the breast or in between (lower, not cleavage). I can't find it now but perhaps with some searching you can find it. She could probably do the same with the SmartCarry if her chest is large enough by just pulling it up high. If she wears tight blouses/shirts, this may not work though.

Socrates
December 13, 2006, 03:33 AM
Generally, I find females are rather difficult to conceal. I've yet to find a holster that would allow me to carry one, without
showing.;)

S

chadwimc
December 13, 2006, 05:55 AM
This is why I sleep with one eye open...:rolleyes:

odessastraight
December 13, 2006, 08:53 AM
C'mon now, pilgrims. Looks like several of ya must have just taken your Viagra, or something.

OK, I'm thinking that, male or female, CCW is a serious endeavor and if she's going to do it she needs to consider that in her dress style. Like someone's already mentioned comfort/style takes a back seat to being adequately protected with an effective CCW. Tell her to suck it up and dress to the gun...gotta set your priorties in the correct order.

Pointer
December 13, 2006, 01:28 PM
chadwimc

Looking at the attached photo of the leg pistol (holster)...

What keeps it from sliding down her leg? :confused:

This posted site could not be accessed as printed...
Now it can...

www.coronadoleather.com

mgdavis
December 14, 2006, 03:02 PM
Sorry I've left this unattended for so long. Odessa is right, some of you need to go take a cold shower :) .

We do realize that there will have to be concessions made to conceal the pistol, but in order for her to actually carry she will have to find a way that is comfortable and not totally disruptive of her current wardrobe. I'm thinking a high-ride OWB, and possibly a shoulder holster.
Thanks to those female-types that chimed in, it's nice to hear from someone who has aready been through this dilemma.

Socrates
December 26, 2006, 09:07 AM
Quick horror story from San Mateo County, Kali.
Lady, who has changed names, and moved to avoid a stalker, with CCW permit, leaves purse in Safeway, with gun in it. Police are called, woman is prosecuted. Turns out her CCW had expired, so, she now has no gun, is plastered all over the front of the papers,on the news, and, stalker now knows where she is.:mad:

On top of that, unless the DA dismisses, she'll be on probation for three years, which means no firearms, and,
I'm sure that's comforting to her stalker.

In short, ANY FORM OF CARRY THAT GIVES THE LEAST CHANCE OF THE ARM BEING LEFT BEHIND, IS A NO NO.

My girlfriend can't remember her cell phone or keys, and, in times of real stress, I have a hard time remembering the things I really need. It is possible to forget your gun, if it's not on your person.

Thunderwear is an excellent choice, and, depending on how she wants to dress, is going to depend on what kind of firearm she carries.

Beretta 950 22 short is better then a sharp stick, if you have it when you need it.

S

wayneinFL
December 26, 2006, 09:34 AM
Big thing that glares at me in #27. Finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire. My kids know better than that.

Mastrogiacomo
December 26, 2006, 09:56 AM
I use Smart Carry. ;)

mgdavis
December 28, 2006, 01:50 PM
We were looking at holsters last night, she found a Ross H4S(IIRC) OWB that she liked. She also thinks that a shoulder holster, as suggested by womensholsters.com, is an attractive option.

armedandsafe
December 28, 2006, 02:07 PM
Mom was a flapper. She used to carry hers in an ankle holster, adapted for upper thigh, with a waistband for security.

One night, she was dancing with the local US Marshal, when things broke loose and her BHP slid down her leg and landed on the Marshal's foot. He scooped it up and continued on jitter-bugging. When they returned to the table, he laid the piece on the table and, tipping his head toward Dad, he made a crack about how he'd better not tell the husband how he got her gun. She smiled up at him and batted her eyelashes as only she could do, and said, "Oh, don't worry about him. He's a Quaker. I'm the one you have to worry about." :D

Pops