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Js0nt
November 20, 2006, 08:12 PM
What do you think is a good slug gun?

Which is better 20gauge or 12 gauge?

Ruger4570
November 20, 2006, 08:24 PM
Good slug gun,, Ithaca Deerslayer III or a Tar Hunt.. which is better 12 or 20..Well there is nothing a 20 can do,, a 12 won't do better.

bennnn
November 20, 2006, 08:27 PM
I agree with the Ithaca deerslayer, and disagree with the 20ga/12ga opinion...

But NOT in THE ART OF THE RIFLE.........

AMT8951
November 20, 2006, 08:41 PM
Ditto in the Ithaca. Plus, there seem to be a lot of used ones around at decent prices.

JLelli
November 20, 2006, 09:05 PM
I agree with the Ithaca deerslayer, and disagree with the 20ga/12ga opinion...

But NOT in THE ART OF THE RIFLE.........

Most slug guns have rifled barrels, which would make them, by definition, rifles.

bennnn
November 20, 2006, 09:22 PM
Believe me, I know the difference between a rifle and a shotgun.

But I'm willing to discuss it with you...

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2

kozak6
November 20, 2006, 09:32 PM
If you can handle the recoil, the 12 gauge is better.

mrawesome22
November 21, 2006, 01:17 AM
Why has this not been moved? Last time I checked a 12 guage was not a rifle.

oldbillthundercheif
November 21, 2006, 01:25 AM
Most "slug" shotguns have rifled barrels. That makes them classifiable as rifles in my book.

I like the 12ga, but have never shot a 20ga slug-gun. I guess they would be fine...

bennnn
November 21, 2006, 05:48 AM
Aa-Ha, The words "most" and "slug-guns",, just keep popping up.. It's going to be hard to keep it on topic here in the art of the rilfe...
Don't try too hard to convince anyone that a "slug-gun" is a rifle if you live in a shotgun only state or county, or you may end up pushing those slugs out of a smoothbore..... The anti's are everwhere....

I grew up in a SHOTGUN only area, and I hunted for years with a bolt action mossberg, 12 ga. But my all time favorite is the older model of deerslayer, 20 ga. with a good scope.

wayne in boca
November 21, 2006, 06:37 AM
I got one of the Mossberg 500 "package deals" with a slug barrel (non-rifled) with rifle sights and a standard barrel w/screw in choke tubes.The slug barrel will print cloverleafs at 50 yards with Forster slugs.And it was cheap too.

roy reali
November 21, 2006, 08:39 AM
I have one of those New England single shot slug guns. I purchased it for a one time deer hunt in a slug only area. The gun cost me less than an extra barrel for one of my other shotguns.

It shoots very well and is light enough enough to make carrying easy.

But it has one drawback. The recoil! You forget how much a shotgun kicks until you fire a slug through a light, single shot gun, from the bench. Thank God I was able to sight in quick!!!

Desert Heat
November 21, 2006, 10:19 AM
Mossberg 590 all the way!!

garryc
November 21, 2006, 10:45 AM
I use an 870 express with a cantalever mounted hastings rifled barrel. I shoot lightfield EXP slugs. It shoots them into 2" 3 shot groups at 100 yards.

In Ohio a shotgun is classified by the ammo it shoots, not by what barrel it has.

whiskey
November 21, 2006, 07:20 PM
Mossberg 500 with a fully rifled barrel. You can use the smooth bore for turkey or other birds and use the slug barrel for deer/hogs. REMEMBER that the sabot slugs are expensive!

bennnn
November 21, 2006, 07:51 PM
See, we just keep talking about shotguns... This thread is great but it's just in the wrong forum..

Oh well.. As long as we're on it, a shotgun can never be a rifle. It can be similar, sure, with a Rifled barrel.... No matter what else is going on, we're talking about a SLUG, shot out of a "rifled" Shotgun barrel. The RIFLING, is what gives SOME of the benifits of a Rifle in a Shotgun...

Most "slug" shotguns have rifled barrels. That makes them classifiable as rifles in my book bill, I like you, and I have agreed with a lot of things you have said in the past.. And I'm sure I will again, but I'm not buying your Book...

Ever heard of a "shotgunned" barrel on a Rifle?.... Me either...

This post is off topic, but the thread is misplaced, don't blame me, I just read here....

Should I write a "this post was made with friendly intentions" disclaimer soon, or should I wait? I'm not busting on you guys for defending rifled shotgun barrels,, how could I? They have a place in the world,, but they are not rifles..
They have a place in the world just like rifles do...
And a place on this website....

Bigfatts
November 21, 2006, 08:06 PM
High Standard! My K-120 with rifle sights is one of the most accurate shotguns I've ever seen with a smooth bore. I can clover 3 shots at 50 yds, offhand, with plain old Wally World rifled slugs. Light, handy and pretty darn good looking. But if you really want interchangeable barrels, it may not be right for you. The Ithaca would be my second choice.

WIN71
November 21, 2006, 08:27 PM
I think they came in rifled barrel 12 ga. only. You can find them used now and then. They are nice. After reading these posts I don't know if it's a rifle or a shotgun. Mine has a weaver 3x scope. Don't know if it's like the Duck thing or not but it looks like a rifle, shoots like a rifle and kills like a rifle so it must be..........something

bennnn
November 21, 2006, 08:58 PM
After reading these posts I don't know if it's a rifle or a shotgun

Browning A-bolt


See what's starting to happen?? We're spreading confusion on the internet....

Gauge = shotgun..... These days...
Like = similar too..

T. O'Heir
November 21, 2006, 10:01 PM
"...by definition..." Yep. It's a rifle by definition. However, it depends on your local hunting regs. I asked ours if a rifled barrel shotgun was ok in a shotguns only WMU and they said yes.
There were slug guns long before there were rifled barrels for shotgun actions. There are likely far more slugs fired out of smooth bores than rifled barrels. Don't have a lick of evidence to support that though. Except that rifled shotgun barrels are a relatively new thing.

bennnn
November 21, 2006, 10:13 PM
Sorry, that is not a real quote from this thread.....


But this is; See, we just keep talking about shotguns... This thread is great but it's just in the wrong forum..


and rifled shotgun barrels mean's just that,,, a rifled SHOTGUN barrel.......

You guys have the floor, I'm done.. Check out this thread for further info.....
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228957

FirstFreedom
November 21, 2006, 11:00 PM
If the 12 gauge's barrel is RIFLED, then it's a RIFLE, not a shotgun. Period. End of story. That is the definition of a rifle, without question. If some yankee states' wildlife departments define it differently, they are WRONG. This is the correct forum. Carry on. :) A 12 gauge is most certainly NOT NECESSARILY a shotgun, as shown here:

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197214

bennnn
November 21, 2006, 11:10 PM
of course it is,,,


so much for the OP

mrawesome22
November 22, 2006, 12:27 AM
I'd like to see a poll on who thinks a 12 guage with a rifled barrel is a rifle. Can you then consider a .243 with a charge of birdshot a shotgun? Come on, give me a break. This thread should be moved. What do you say MODS? This shouldn't even be an issue. And I challenge FirstFreedom to a technacalities off. LOL Guess I'll start having to tell people I have a 12 guage rifle. LOL ***

rem33
November 22, 2006, 01:06 AM
A shotgun is a shotgun, shooting slugs or shot.
A rifle shooting shot is still a rifle just as a shotgun shooting slugs is a shotgun IMHO.
Is a smooth bore 22 rifle a shotgun when shooting 22 shot shells? No it is a 22 rifle.

So whats my Contender with the 45/410 barrel when shooting a 410 or a 45?
My guess would be pistol both times.

Sorry JsOnt, I have so far never hunted with slugs. I have considered it and would lean toward the Mossberg as I am a lefty and would like the tang safety

Johnny Guest
November 22, 2006, 02:14 AM
Based upon the original question, posed in post #1, this thread indeed belongs in Shotguns forum.

If someone started a thread in the Rifle forum, expressly dedicated to rifled-barrel shotguns, I'd be inclined to leave it there.

Johnny

bennnn
November 22, 2006, 05:55 AM
Guess I'll start having to tell people I have a 12 guage rifle.

I love that....... It really cracked me up...

Now that we're here,,, are we going back to the OP question?

I'll get in on the debate in another thread if you guys want to keep it up....

Js0nt
November 22, 2006, 06:13 PM
Hey all I wanted to no was what was a good slug gun and i thank the people who told me their opinions of a good slug gun but I didnt mean to start an arguement.
Plus, all i did was put it in the wrong category and yall blow a top over it. And I get a lot of suggestions of a slug gun and when i put a ? about the remington 597 almost nobody says anytin bout it so maybe wen yall are arguin bout me puttin sometin in the wrong category yall can tell me wat u think about the 597. lol

Js0nt
November 22, 2006, 06:20 PM
and hey i have a mossberg slug gun and we put a scope on it and the highest it will shoot is about 8 inches below the target so we sent it in last year and this year its doin the same thing so we took the scope off of it and now its shootin horrible and its goin all over the place so i was gonna trade it in so wat should i do

I guess i should of said that before yall said mossberg

oldbillthundercheif
November 22, 2006, 06:24 PM
Remington 597?

That's a .22 rifle. I thought you were asking about slug-launching devices?
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k223/zarganuts/remington597ss.jpg

Js0nt
November 22, 2006, 08:00 PM
i was if only ud read the whole thing

mrawesome22
November 22, 2006, 09:13 PM
LOL this is great, first you start a shotgun thread in the rifle forum, now your asking about a rifle in the same thread... and now it's in the shotgun forum LOL :p Anyway, I'll take a muzzleloader over a slug gun anyday, and I love my 597. But it's a 597 Magnum LS HB in .17HMR. Very accurate and very deadly on ghogs, coyote to about 100 yards. And I wasn't blowing my top. I just like debate and I also am kind of a perfectionist. I like everything where it's supposed to be. That is why I love shooting accurate rifle's so much. If I were to do it, I would have started the slug gun thread in the shotguns forum, then if I had a question about a rifle, I would have started a new thread in the rifle forum. You can have as many threads open as you want. And good job Johnny.

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November 22, 2006, 09:36 PM
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