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flusher
September 8, 2006, 05:50 PM
How is the indicator spring and pin of a PPK replaced?

James K
September 8, 2006, 10:44 PM
With difficulty. If you have to replace it, I will tell you how. If you are just curious and want to take the gun apart for fun, don't.

Jim

JohnKSa
September 8, 2006, 10:52 PM
Been many years since I last had my PPK slide apart. It'll be many more years if I have my way.

flusher
September 9, 2006, 06:53 AM
Actually, I had both pieces removed because the spring broke causing the pin to prevent the slide from closing fully. This resulted in a non operating weapon. Not good
Got a new spring and was thinking about re installing the items but feel safer with them out.
What do you guys think?

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JohnKSa
September 9, 2006, 06:15 PM
Your situation is the first I'd heard of any problems resulting from the chamber loaded indicator, so I wouldn't feel bad about replacing the parts.

On the other hand, the installation is a pain...

cavediver27
September 9, 2006, 06:20 PM
I had the spring break on mine last year. Local gunsmith repaired it for $25.00, must not be that complicated.

flusher
September 9, 2006, 06:28 PM
When I saw the items taken out, It only took about 15 minutes.
Seems to me that putting them back is no big issue.
What am I missing?

JohnKSa
September 9, 2006, 06:47 PM
Like I said, it's been a lot of years. I vaguely remember having problems during reassembly with getting the detent & tensioning spring for the decocker/safety back into position. What I remember more clearly was not wanting to do it again. ;)

James K
September 9, 2006, 10:02 PM
OK, Flusher, here goes.

First, the usual about making sure the pistol is unloaded and the magazine removed.

Then, remove the slide. Clamp the slide in a vise, upside down. With the safety up (off), use a small screwdriver to push the square part of the firing pin forward, so the back of the firing pin clears the safety. Using a small pair of Vise Grip pliers with padded jaws, grip the front end of the firing pin to hold it out.

Move the safety halfway between the ON and OFF positions, and use a small screwdriver to push it out to the left. With the tension off the combined safety and extractor spring, the extractor will drop out. Remove it, along with the two plungers and the spring.

With the safety out, you can release the firing pin and remove it and its spring to the rear.

Now you can see the loaded indicator and its spring. Using that famous small screwdriver, push it back until you can grab the rear with pliers, then pull it back and tip it up until the front clears the slide. Be careful; if it slips, it can fly away. Remove the indicator and its spring. The spring has an arm that forces it down; that arm must go to the front and toward the top of the slide (down from your viewpoint). With the spring and indicator together, push the indicator to the rear and again grab it with the pliers, tipping it down and into position.

Before you go any further, make sure the indicator will spring back down (up to you) if pushed toward the top of the slide. If it doesn't or if it seems hard to move, you goofed in the way the spring is in. Go back and read that part again and do it right.

With the indicator and spring in, reinstall the firing pin by inserting the pin and its spring, then again pushing it forward and gripping it with the Vise Grips. Install the safety from the middle position and push it all the way in. At this point, you will want to remove the slide from the vise. Then install the safety plunger, extractor plunger and spring, with the pointed plunger to the rear to bear on the safety. Now turn the extractor plunger so its notch is inward and the longer side holds the extractor. Push the plunger back with the extractor and push the extractor in. The extractor plunger will pop into place.

That's all. Wasn't that fun?

Jim

Clemson
September 11, 2006, 11:52 AM
You da Man, Jim! Excellent instructions.

The PPK is one of the few guns that I sold and never regretted it. The loaded chamber indicator on mine was broken when I sold it (and I told the buyer about it).

That PPK was just plain unpleasant to shoot, and I love full house 357 magnums and own two .41 magnums and three .45 ACP's! It had more sharp edges than Carter had pills, and it was too heavy to pocket carry.

It sure did look sexy, though. Mine was a .380 Walter in Stainless Steel. The German, blued guns might have been different.

Clemson