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Wild Bill Bucks
September 8, 2006, 09:00 AM
One of the guys at work here, gave us his thoughts this morning, and I thought you guys might like to comment. This is his theory, and for the life of me, I can't find enough info on the net to prove him wrong. What do you guys think?

In China and around the world, it is well known that deer velvet is a powerful aphrodisiac. He thinks, that since the deer shed their velvet just prior to the rut starting, that the deer chew on the velvet after scraping it off, and he thinks this might have something to do with the bucks starting scrapes and pre-breed activity, prior to the does going into season.

He also thinks this might have something to do with the breeding habits of other animals, such as squirrels, or rats, that are such predominent breeders.

I thought on this for a good while, and I don't re-call seeing very much velvet on bushes that have been freshly rubbed. Do you guys think he may be onto something, or should I find another job for him to do, as he may have WAY to much time on his hands to even think of things like this.:D

FirstFreedom
September 8, 2006, 09:10 AM
The latter. :)

Well, are you wanting to prove them wrong on whether they eat it only? Or whether it's an aphrodesiac (sp?) ??

Interesting theory, but I think the burden of proof is on him to prove it right, not on you to prove him wrong. I can claim the martians live in the space under my house, and ask you to prove me wrong with something besides your claim that it's caca del toro.

If the velvet has nutritional value, I'd not be surprised at all if they ate it. That doesn't sound too farfetched. But, I seriously doubt that it's an aphrodesiac to them any more than it is to humans (it's NOT to humans, contrary to what certain humans believe - that's been proven over and over that supposed aphrodesiacs are just hogwash). It's the changing of the weather (coolness) that triggers the release of hormones.

Good gawd, I've got to turn the tv off - The Rockford Files is playing in the background, and I swear just listening to that show for 15 minutes makes you dumber, and I don't need any 'help'.

Art Eatman
September 8, 2006, 10:35 AM
The whole aphrodisiac thing is strictly mental. If you believe something will work, it likely will. Call it the "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" syndrome: If you just wish long enough and hard enough, it'll all come true. Old Farts in China believe this stuff; they don't know.

And antler scraping occurs long before the rut, it that'll help any. Mule deer around here, for instance, scrape in August/September and rut in December/January.

Art

Wild Bill Bucks
September 8, 2006, 11:50 AM
That's pretty much what I thought to, but it was an interesting theory at the time.

I've got him washing the warehouse floor right now.:D

Clayfish
September 8, 2006, 11:57 AM
He thinks, that since the deer shed their velvet just prior to the rut starting,

I can't speak for the rest of the country but here the deer shed their velvet in late August and the rut doesn't start untill December so that pretty much rules out that theory.

Wild Bill Bucks
September 8, 2006, 01:14 PM
Clayfish,

Our rut here is generally late Oct. thru Nov. and our bucks right now are still in velvet.(According on full moon and weather):o

I pretty much thought his theory, was a little off the wall, I just thought the rest of the guys might get a kick out of it. Seems like, in hunting, if one guy tells it, and three other guys beleive it, then it must be true.:D

MEDDAC19
September 8, 2006, 01:49 PM
The deer eat acorns right before the rut starts here in PA, so I guess if I eat acorns I will have unlimited sexual powers. Squirrels and rats breed as often as they can, sometimes year round, how does that correlate with his velvet theory?

youp
September 10, 2006, 05:46 AM
'Jonathon Livingstoned Seagull?" You are old Art!:D

Art Eatman
September 10, 2006, 02:10 PM
Well, youp, I've always thought of it as one of the better examples of wishful thinking...

:), Art

zeisloft
September 15, 2006, 11:05 AM
“It's the changing of the weather (coolness) that triggers the release of hormones.”

Sorry to disagree FF, but I believe it is the change in the photoperiod (the daily cycle of light and darkness that affects the behavior and physiological functions of most organisms) that triggers the rut. But often times the changing in the weather trigger the hunters to be out in the field more to see what has been going on regardless of the temp.
~z

FirstFreedom
September 15, 2006, 11:30 AM
I've got him washing the warehouse floor right now.

That mindless work will give him time to further mentally develop his theories. :D