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Esquire M Busterbury
July 29, 2006, 11:25 PM
Since moving into a 'slightly' antiquated house with a swamp cooler instead of a standard a/c, I've been having to check my guns several times a week for rust. I try to keep them oiled plenty only to see those horrible orange spots appearing within days. Can anyone recommend something better than CLP?

Thanks,
Esquire

cntryboy1289
July 29, 2006, 11:50 PM
Put them up in a closet or gun cabinet and get you some silica gel to absorb the moisture for you. CLP is about as good as it gets for rust prevention though. You might try Bullfrog protection though, I hear it works rather well when applied to the metal.

hoghunting
July 30, 2006, 12:02 AM
Try this as it works very well:

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=9719&s=24709

Bill DeShivs
July 30, 2006, 02:39 AM
In a test done on one of the knife forums, the marine Tuff Cloth prevented rust better than any other product.
Bill

Foxman
July 30, 2006, 05:17 AM
Read this test, you can see for your job Eezox is well in front of the others.
http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html

Unclenick
July 30, 2006, 05:32 PM
Foxman,

Thanks for posting the link. Eezox is a new one on me. I would like to see it up against some other products that start out with a penetrating liquid carrier that dries off to leave a wax. I am thinking of LPS3 and Boeshield T9, specifically. I've noticed that the industrial catalogs, like MSC, will sell you 5 gallon buckets of things that never make it to the consumer market at all. They are rated by years of protection.

Interesting test results.

Nick

Harry Bonar
July 31, 2006, 12:40 PM
Dear Sir:
"Swamp coolers" are notoriously "moisture rich."
I'd say RIG - RIG!
Harry B.

Foxman
August 1, 2006, 04:55 PM
Looking at the write up good ol rem oil does pretty well too, I agree that there seems to be all kinds of stuff out there. I did try to find again an ad for a "slushing oil" that apparently the US Navy uses in the bilges of ships to prevent corrosion, but darned if I could remember where I found it. I know it was a wax and oil base with a thickening agent added to keep it in place, bit like the thixotropic additive in glass fiber resin I suppose, I can only say if its so and good enough for the Navy it would certainly keep a surface rust at bay on a rifle. Trouble with such as cosmoline it would take a day to get the rifle into usable condition again. There are gunsafe heaters for sale at such as Midway, that and a good oiling might be the better way, so long as the metal is kept above the dew point temperature of water it wont settle on it and cause rust, from memory it is around 65 degrees F but i would have to look it up to be sure.

tINY
August 1, 2006, 06:56 PM
Two products that have done well for me are Prolong (an altered oil with a net + charge to keep it on the metal) and Tetra gun (a PTFE suplimented oil).

The Prolong is easy to use - spray or wipe on and make sure it covers.

Tetra gun stays better, but you have to burnish it into the metal surfaces.



-tINY

hodaka
August 1, 2006, 07:57 PM
Corrosion X works. I have no idea what it is made of but it sure does work.

Doubletaptap
August 4, 2006, 11:22 PM
I'd say put them in a closet that's away from the mainstream of air circulation. DO NOT store them in the cases,and buy a bunch of the silica blocks that Academy and Wal-mart sells and put them in the closet too to absorb moisture..
Coat the guns well with CLP or Hoppes gun oil. And check them often.
Rig's crap don't work for me.
Keep any cloth or leather material off them.
And if need be put a dehumidifier in the closet with them.
You can buy "bore-stores" to put in them too.Check them on the net.
We have similar problems here along the coast with high humidity and salt air.
They do need air circulation,but dry air.Leave the bolts open so they can breathe inside as well as out.

Esquire M Busterbury
August 5, 2006, 01:11 AM
I shoulda got the marine 870...but at $250 used, I couldn't pass it up.

Unclenick
August 5, 2006, 07:04 PM
Actually the warm rod suggestion is a good one, but you didn't say whether you had a gun safe or not? If you use desiccant, it will get consumed rather quickly in a humid environment unless it is sealed in with the guns somehow. You would want some sort of giant Pelican case with O-ring seal, or maybe a 20 mm ammo can for the handguns.

If you are in a regular closet, don't allow bare wood, cloth or paper or anything else that holds water up against the gun metal. You can cut white epanded polystyrene up to form gun racks that won't wet the metal. Get hold of a 240 volt light bulb, make a caged base for it so you can safely set it on the floor of your closet leave it on all the time. That will warm things up to prevent condensation. If the bulb makes things too warm, put a rectifier diode in series with it so it runs on 60 V. You can get a low wattage 115 v computer fan to stir the air, if you really want to get fancy?

Nick

Pointer
August 5, 2006, 07:28 PM
Carnuaba Paste Wax (paste that is) it dries hard... and is not a magnet for dirt and grime... :)

webbee
August 5, 2006, 08:50 PM
Here's a bunch of corrosion tests.
I use EEZOX because it also is a great dry lubricant and doesn't separate like Break free CLP. It should be applied in a well ventilated environment.
Use one of the top performers and you won't have a problem with rust.

Brownells (http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/GunTech/NewsletterArchive.aspx?p=0&t=1&i=503)

Shooter Solutions (http://www.shootersolutions.com/webrusttests.html)

CT Muzzle Loaders #1 (http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/mlexperiments/corrosion/corrosion.html)

CT Muzzle Loaders #2 (http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/mlexperiments/corrosion/corrosion2.html)

The Gun Zone (http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html)