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thickstrings
July 29, 2006, 04:08 PM
I've been reading around the net lately, that it is possible to shoot 32 H&R mags in a moisen nagant revolver? Is this true?.....

mete
July 29, 2006, 06:59 PM
There would be a big difference in pressure . The Nagant is not designed for high pressure !!!! Don't do it !:eek:

ribbonstone
July 29, 2006, 10:01 PM
This is going to take a bit...but hang in and read it anyway.

Nagant cylinder mouth is cut to fit a bullet wrapped in a brass case...if you measure it, will find it about .336-.338".

ANY round besides Nagant ammo (.32SW, .32SWl, .32HRM) releases the bullet into that .336" hole, where it kind of rattles around a bit before crossing into the barrel. Uually doesn't do any real harm, accuracy is often acceptable, but seldom outstanding (but the trigger pull on most nagants kind of rule out any real precison work anyway).

SO...yes, the .32HRM is much much higher is pressure than the Nagant was made for. BUT you lose some of that pressure by way of having the bullet released into that oversized chamber mouth. IS it safe? Proably not...but many onwers have done it and lived to tell the tale.

Does stress the gun a bit...the case tends to swell and a case split will dump high pressure gas. If that happens, it's usually defelcted by the recoil shield and jets out the rear of the cylinder to the sides...bad luck to have a body part close. It's not a great idea.

Stick with .32SWL....it has the same problems of corssing that large cylinder throuat, but the pressure is low and it seems to manage the trick pretty well.

Doubletaptap
July 29, 2006, 11:21 PM
I'd say buy some 7.62 Nagant ammo. It's not that expensive.

joab
July 29, 2006, 11:29 PM
The Interordnace website says that you can, but I have to agree Doubletap.

The ammo I bought was pathetically anemic. If that is what is standard I would think that .32 mag would blow the gun up

Wasper
July 30, 2006, 05:58 AM
I've been reading around the net lately, that it is possible to shoot 32 H&R mags in a moisen nagant revolver? Is this true?.....


Don't mean to be "nit-picky" but it is an "M1895 Nagant Revolver." Nagant designed the revolver.... Mosin had nothing to do with it's design.

Nagant's name is included in the "Mosin-Nagant Rifle" because Nagant contributed to the magazine design of the rifle.

Just FYI:)

James K
July 30, 2006, 03:54 PM
Actually, the Russian Nagant service round is about on the same pressure level as the .32 Magnum, and well above the .32 S&W Long. I got one of those .32 ACP cylinders and reamed it to .32 Magnum, letting me shoot .32 ACP, .32 S&W, .32 S&W Long, and .32 H&R Magnum. While I have not done any extensive tests, I have fired all of them enough that I don't expect to blow up the old gun with any of them.

I don't recommend using any of the above rounds in the original cylinder because of case bulging and possible splitting, not because of any danger of a blowup.

BTW, I am not planning to put away my Model 19 and carry that Nagant any time soon.

Jim

AmesJainchill
August 2, 2006, 02:03 PM
Here's just a Google comparison of some information...

32 H&R Magnum, all bullet weights
Bullet Powder Weight Powder Velocity OAL Primer Source
100gr LSWC 10.5 gr H110 1,279 fps 1.332" Fed SPM guest
From ST June ’86

Email author: jamm
See all of jamm's loads

http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=32%20HqqqR%20Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source=

Everything else in .32 H&R Magnum was at 4 or five grains of powder. Target loads?

and from someone else...

Bullet Type 98gr Jacketed DEWC (Graf's)
Case Fiocchi - 1.550 Trim - Headstamp: G.F.L
Primer CCI Small Pistol
Cartridge Overall Length 1.550 Inches

Powder Charge (gr) MV (ft/s) Std Dev (ft/s) ME (ft-lbs) Comments
3.0 747 28.7 121 None
3.2 815 17.4 145 None

http://members.nuvox.net/~on.melchar/nagant/

I also found this information, from here:
http://club.guns.ru/wwwboard/message/eng/2406.html

Revolver (M95): Type 'R'; 108 gr bullet, 14 gr charge,
> > Muzzle Velocity: 892 fps, Muzzle velocity: 272 m/s ( 892
> > f.p.s. )

These two loads don't seem very different to me, just an amateur here. If the gun will survive 14 grains it should survive ten...

So, I would guess that the Nagant will fire the .32 Magnum. But I don't actually know much about guns, so I'm talking out my...ear here.