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Bullz'I
July 26, 2006, 09:15 AM
I live in NY, where in my county it takes about two weeks for the county judge to approve an ammendment for a new pistol to be added to my exising license.

Yesterday it was approved, so I went to the store to pick it up. The salesman calls in to the FBI to get the "ok". Once he gets off the phone, he tells me that "I'm sorry, but the FBI wants to delay the purchuse for up to 8 days".

Now keep in mind that I have a clean record and this will be my third pistol added to my license.

Is this a new process for a store to have to call in to the FBI before releasing a new pistol?
What criteria would the FBI use to decide who gets delayed and who doesn't?

ATW525
July 26, 2006, 09:29 AM
8 days doesn't sound right. The last I checked they have three business days under federal law to either approve or deny you.

M1911
July 26, 2006, 09:36 AM
Is this a new process for a store to have to call in to the FBI before releasing a new pistol?Guess you haven't purchased a gun in the last few years. No, the instant background check system is not new. There's lots of information about the NICS system here: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/index.htm

As to why you got delayed, it may be that someone with a similar name and date of birth has a criminal record. The FBI has answered this question here:

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/gunbuyer.htm

revjen45
July 26, 2006, 11:38 AM
Is your name Ahmed or Mohammad?

Kelly J
July 26, 2006, 11:48 AM
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revjen45
July 26, 2006, 11:55 AM
You are absolutely correct. I was being facetious.

Dean C
July 26, 2006, 12:27 PM
I have a thoery on this.
1. you had to get approval to purchase. That includes (I would think) background checks from various agencies.
2. NICS checks reveal that there has been some activity associated with your name recently.
3. NICS thinks "we better slow this down in case something sinister is going on here".
4. Thus the delay.

What do you think?
dean

Kelly J
July 26, 2006, 01:31 PM
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azurefly
July 26, 2006, 02:23 PM
I would begin to question the professional knowledge of the gun shop itself if they didn't immediately say back to the FBI person on the phone, "Hey, what do I tell a customer who knows [wink at the customer who may or may not have known] that absent a denial, he gets to take home the gun after 3 days? Come up with a reason for a denial, or I have to give him the gun 3 days from now, please."

The shop should know the ins and outs of the system, yes? And it should have known right off the bat that 8 days was some arbitrary "screw-the-gun-owner" line of bull.


-azurefly

Bullz'I
July 26, 2006, 09:17 PM
The store called this morning and told me that it just cleared.
I never looked into "NICS", but now I know. Thanks for the info. :)

M1911
July 27, 2006, 08:25 AM
Excellent. And you're welcome.

EOD Guy
July 27, 2006, 09:12 AM
It would make no Difference what his name is the NICS Systenas stated that the aproval or disaproval must be done withing 3 Business days if no responce has been giver the dealer must release the weaponto the customer if there is later thanthat found a justifiable reason that the weapon should not have been released to the customer thenthe police will confiscate it and the due process will take place.

There is nothing that says the check must be done within 3 business days. If the delay is not cleared within those 3 business days, then the dealer has the option to release the firearm to the purchaser. It is not mandatory that he releases the firearm and some dealers will not do so until they have an approval from NICS.

BobGnKY
July 28, 2006, 02:43 AM
Yet another reason why I"ll never live in New York, and my wife is a native New Yorker. I couldn't bear to ask permission to bring guns that I already own into the state, and get licenses for them all (over 30) and POSSIBLY provide justification, and have to wait certain periods of time to get them, and .... etc, etc, etc....

Odd-Job
July 28, 2006, 04:32 AM
"ll never live in New York," i agree,suggest relocating New York to Siberia.