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FRANK1669
July 23, 2006, 09:50 PM
I hope this is the correct spot to post this. I am new to this forum, and have found a lot of good information. And, I would like to give something back. I have seen a lot of posts as to what if, or how many times to shoot etc. For me personally there will never be a ready to fire gun in my house again. Here is why. About three years ago I was working nights and would sleep during the day. My girlfriend at the time came over to my house while I was sleeping. When she opened the door to my bedroom it startled me awake. At this point my hands were much quicker than my brain. While waking I managed to draw cock and aim before I even new who was in the room ( for clarification S&W 357 DA revolver) . I really don’t know how or why I didn’t fire. But the results could have been disastrous. To be honest this has scared the H_ll out of me. With hind sight there were a lot of things didn’t happen My dog didn’t bark, I never heard any forced entry etc. Maybe my subconscious picked up on these and that is why I didn’t fire, But I will not take any chances. For home defense My pump shotgun is loaded but not chambered. I want do give myself that second or so to make sure I am clear headed before I fire. Like anything you practice a lot it becomes reflex. I also practice Judo and our instructor calls it muscle memory. Your body can react faster than your brain at times. I don’t expect to change anyone’s mind on how they prepare for there safety at home I just wanted to offer some information as to a possible worst case scenario and a way to avoid it.

Wyo Cowboy
July 23, 2006, 09:59 PM
Consider the "Gun Vault" or something simmilar. The Gun Vault (yes, I own one but have no stock in the company) requires that the correct combination is inputed prior to access. The "combo" is a finger pattern which you select as opposed to a "combo" of numbers which is selected by the manufaturer.

BillCA
July 23, 2006, 10:26 PM
When I had a g/f living with me I told her not to be quiet coming in the house after her late swingshift ended. I was more likely to wake up alarmed by "prowler" noises than the normal noises of her coming home. She forgot once - and only once - when she heard the slide drop on the 1911. All ended well.

This is a good point to think about when you have significant others, roomies or other family members living with you. Some folks put the gun in the nightstand drawer. Others use a semi-auto so they have to chamber a round first. Develop a "routine" for your household people -- enter the house in a normal (noisy) fashion, jingle keys, put stuff down, head to kitchen or bathroom before the bedroom(s), etc.

Remember that when others are sleeping, attempting to be "quiet as a mouse" may only alarm them when they awaken, especially if your arrival is something of a surprise.

Doggieman
July 24, 2006, 04:14 AM
yup, I make it very clear to my girlfriends that I have guns in my house and to NEVER come in unannounced. I also keep my doors locked at all times, even when I'm home, so a dumb neighbor or a random kid can't come in and get blown away. If someone gets into my house I'm almost entirely certain it will be proper to shoot him or her even before seeing who it is.

However it's always necessary to be as sure as possible of your target before squeezing the trig.

Gun safety means making everyone safe around your guns, not just you.

tegemu
July 24, 2006, 08:01 AM
I read another consideration in the latest issue of "Combat Carry" magazine. If you put your firearm on the night stand or in it's drawer, that's the first place an intruder will look and you might just wake up staring down the barrel of your own gun. They also did not recommend putting it under your pillow as that is likely to be an incipient negligible discharge. The Safe Box Vault or another location such as a bed frame, wall or floor mount is suggested. I have ordered a Sure Set Holster Mount which will mount to the bed frame, wall, floor or anywhere in a vehicle. A simpler suggestion is to place the gun on the floor, covered by a magazine.

CDH
July 24, 2006, 03:30 PM
I'm troubled by the idea of some people picking up a gun anytime they wake up or hear an unfamiliar sound. That's not "self defense", that's "likes to play with guns".

I hear all sorts of things going on at night including doors creaking, the air conditioner kicking on and disturbing something, the dog doing whatever the hell HE does when I'm asleep, and all sorts of things.

This isn't an argument for or against having a loaded defensive weapon handy, it's more of an argument of being prepared for noises or unexpected events to NOT be a home invasion. On top of that, some of these circumstances are totally predictable with family or friends having open access to the house at any time in situations where I just don't see the need to pick up a weapon.

It sounds to me like the idea of being prepared for a defensive situation is taken a bit too far where someone may get hurt for absolutely no reason.
I won't go over all the scenarios where I would act a certain way because there are so many, and having a ready weapon available is part of all of them. But I have never gotten so far as to draw down on anyone I know while there was one time I got further along in "preparedness" before deciding the threat didn't warrant shooting (but did warrant having a pistol in my hand).

Not meaning to sound preachy, just things to think about.

Carter

Big Mac
July 24, 2006, 04:35 PM
I have developed an interesting technique. I have steel toe workboots that i put beside my bed, I place the pistol barrel down into it. It's quick to draw and safe from pets knocking them down (unless you have a medium or large dog) I've practiced it quite a few times, it's not that hard once you get it set up just right. I must also add that I have a futon, not a large bed so this may not apply to many people. College student style.....:D

bg226
July 24, 2006, 05:37 PM
I like the idea of a magazine disconnect. Even if a round is chambered the gun cannot fire unless the magazine is inserted.

springmom
July 24, 2006, 06:51 PM
The girlfriend should not have come in unannounced. We have a 17 year old still at home who does not, shall we say, keep our hours. He is well aware of the fact that my XD lives on my night stand and after having the living snot beat out of him by some of the local gangsters in January, is utterly supportive of our home defense goals. So when he comes in, he disarms, then re-arms the alarm system with his own code, then comes and bangs on our door and yells "I'M HOOOOOMMMMMEEEEEEE!!!!!" If he were to not do that, I would call out "hellooooooo....." and he would then answer.

Nobody else can just "walk in", not his friends or ours. There are new gangs popping up around here, a killer gang just got picked up a few weeks ago less than 5 miles from our house, and a serial killer is now stalking an area about 5-7 miles south of us.

Keeping that gun where it is is not "likes to play with guns". It is what my sig line says: I refuse to be a victim.

Springmom

atlctyslkr
July 24, 2006, 07:08 PM
If it's easy for you to access a gun and it's in plain sight it may be easy for someone you don't want to get it to access it. Sure would suck if you woke up with an intruder standing over you pointing YOUR gun at you.

Flaman
July 24, 2006, 07:25 PM
Here is my opinion, I'm sorry for the long reply....

I don't keep my Glock 30 (and surefire flashlight) on/in the night stand, but they are within arms length while I sleep. The G30 is ALWAYS stoked up with 10 in the mag, one in the tube.

Most criminals won't wait for their victim to retrieve his/her firearm before they commence firing on them. Most home invasions happen at night... The element of surprise clearly gives the advantage to the criminal.

Home invasions are just that: INVASIONS; the definition of which is: the act of attacking, assaulting, or mounting an offensive.

These intruders do these sorts of things most often knowing a home is occupied; which means they may have little or no regard for human life.

For me, the answer to this potential threat is: TRAINING... PERIOD
1) I keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction
2) I always identify threat
3) I never, ever, put finger on the trigger until I'm ready to fire.

I have consciously repeated these things to myself over and over again thousands of times. These words are burned into my subconscious mind.

I have been startled at night many, many times. I have often grabbed my pistol in the midst of waking up in severe fright, but thank God I always:
1) Kept the muzzle pointed in a safe direction
2) Identified the threat
3) Never, ever, put my finger on the trigger until ready to fire.

This works for me. You may not feel comfortable with my thinking; I respect your choice to make the right decision for you.

I refuse be caught racking my slide, looking for a key, fumbling with a magazine, or stumbling to a gun vault in a "half asleep state", while a wide awake intruder is trying to terminate me so that he might brutally rape, murder, or torture my family.

FRANK1669
July 24, 2006, 07:32 PM
In response to CDH the unfamiliar sound was my bedroom door opening beings how I lived alone at that time I don’t consider it “playing with guns” My girlfriend stopped by unannounced while I was sleeping. Enough said on that So if that is drawing at any unfamiliar sound and seams unwarranted to you that is your opinion. I also think you misunderstood the hole point of my posting I simply wanted to point out an situation that happened to me that could have been tragic and how I choose to correct it. This is offered as a solution for everyone just something to think about. II know there are several people who read this form with a firearm for home defense and I just hope this info may prevent an accidental shooting.

Doggieman
July 24, 2006, 07:33 PM
magazine disconnect = :barf:
child locks = :barf:
internal locking systems = :barf:

My safety is my brain. It rarely fails.

axslingerW
July 24, 2006, 07:45 PM
My guns are always locked when not on my person. Having a "special" child means no chances. I do keep the magazine loaded and it takes only a few seconds to ready the pistol. I doubt anybody would get passed a locked door, two large dogs, and an alarm before I'm ready.

RioShooter
July 24, 2006, 08:21 PM
Because every household is different, each person must choose options that best protect them.

I sleep with a pistol on my nightstand and a shotgun next to the bed. My wife is the only person who would be in my house while I am sleeping. We also have 5 house dogs. There is NO way an intruder could access my guns before me. One more thing; we have an alarm system that is always activated after dark.

Did I mention that we sleep with the bedroom door locked? No. Well, that's one more layer of protection.

If I am a target for a home invasion, and my bedroom door is kicked-in, the intruder will learn what self-defense means.

Blackwater OPS
July 24, 2006, 08:29 PM
For me, the answer to this potential threat is: TRAINING... PERIOD
1) I keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction
2) I always identify threat
3) I never, ever, put finger on the trigger until I'm ready to fire.

That's the best advice IMO.

In addition it's a good idea to strongly advise others not enter your living area unannounced but don't count on that. Magazine disconnects are a liability IMO.

I keep all the guns that are not in my safe loaded and ready to fire at all times, they are in my bedroom and are not accessible by anyone else. They are insured, and no one is going to be getting in without making such an entrance obvious to me when I return, much less entering while I am asleep and not waking me up. Beyond that, the I have added security features to my home are more to discourage prospective intruders and alert me to their presence than to keep then out if they really want to get in.

guntotin_fool
July 25, 2006, 12:01 AM
I sleep with a gun (1911) in a thumbsnap under the pillow, have for years, wife does the same, We also have large dog and a yapper, plus an alarm and a system, If our bedroom light is out, the kids have to ring the door bell when they enter the house. two short jabs. There are a few others, (my parents, a brother, father in law who have a key,) all have been told the same pattern. so far it has worked, the dog yaps, two short rings, and then i listen to whom ever is talking to the dogs. This is the same system I was forced to use when i lived in the basement of my parents house from about 8 th grade on....So far it has worked.

Sun Tzu
July 25, 2006, 12:52 AM
Brothers,

I sleep w/my G-19 fully loaded and racked.:cool: It is secured in a wilderness safepacker holster. It also has a Saf T Blok in the trigger guard. I am ready to stop a threat instantly.:) And like Doggieman says "my brain is my safety" always.;) Use visualization techniques, practice, communicate, and see the threat first!:D

Peace, S Tzu

Master Sun's Glock would be racked...

Doggieman
July 25, 2006, 03:25 AM
I sleep with a concealed carry piece in a shoulder holster, a backup gun on my leg, while cuddling my shotgun. I have two trained dobermans on either side of my bed and four pit bulls on the other side of a 3-inch titanium bedroom door. The exterior windows are bulletproof and I have 6 moving spotlights illuminating the yard with nearly a dozen cameras and motion detectors which will instantly sound an alarm and release the dogs on an intruder. The neighbors think I'm nuts but no home invasions yet!

springmom
July 25, 2006, 08:42 AM
Thanks for my laugh for the day.

The idea of a home invader having sneaked through my alarm system, my dogs, and my locked bedroom door to get to where he's standing over me with me still blissfully snoozing away is silly. Now, if you sleep with your first-floor windows open, no alarm, no dogs, no locked/bolted doors, well, maybe, but if that happens it's because of all the things you didn't do before that point.

Springmom

pdkflyguy
July 25, 2006, 09:04 AM
I think it's been said ad nauseum, but I still agree that Dogs make the best intruder alarms. We have a 4 year old dog and a 1 year old puppy, and it took me less than a week to teach the puppy which noises were normal and which ones meant she needed to raise hell about. I think if you have one or two layers of primary defense (i.e. Alarms, Dogs, deadbolts), then a pistol can still be reached in time in a good quick-release safe. Plus, dogs or alarms have a tendency to wake up your brain a little bit more than it does on its own, so that may help to give you more clarity of thought and judgement. I've never pointed a gun at my wife or any houseguests (although both have made plenty of unusual noises in the middle of the night) because once I reach for the gun I'm also listening for secondary indications that an intruder is in the house.

Bulldozer
July 25, 2006, 09:23 AM
Dog(s) and deadbolts on doors.
Revolver nearby.

We had a recent long-lost freind of the wife's show up unannounced and proceeded to "storm the castle." Had we not visually ID'd the person by the license plate of the car, the greeting would have been far less polite than it was.

raymond-
July 25, 2006, 11:54 AM
magazine disconnect =
child locks =
internal locking systems =

My safety is my brain. It rarely fails.

...you never make typos, you always remember people's names, you never
forget an appointment...birthday....or anniversary, and you never flinch.

Blackwater OPS
July 25, 2006, 12:45 PM
magazine disconnect =
child locks =
internal locking systems =

My safety is my brain. It rarely fails.

...you never make typos, you always remember people's names, you never
forget an appointment...birthday....or anniversary, and you never flinch.

The thing to remember is that you can do things in away that allows for human failures, such as keeping your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire. If you can't remember that you should not own guns IMO.

john in jax
July 25, 2006, 01:35 PM
Life before kids was different, there was 1 or more loaded guns concealed in every single room of the house.

Life with YOUNG children means almost everything is unloaded and locked in the safe. I keep a couple of .45 autos around without a round in the chamber - - by the time he is old enough (strong enough) to rack the slide he'll know all about them, but until then an empty chamber and an 18# recoil spring serve as a additional child safety/protection measure and that's what it is all about right . . . protecting our loved ones.

My CCW is the only gun ready to go, with one in the chamber and when not on my person it is put away. But like many others on this board I have a very paranoid barking alarm - - The dog barks at anyone, even me, who approches the house and often when a neighbor opens or closes a car door.

TexasCop
July 25, 2006, 02:30 PM
+1 on the small gun safe. Mine is from Cannon safes and uses a push button simplex lock that you can reprogram as you want. I'm not big into anything that has a battery taht can run down and malfunction, whether it's a personal safe or a big safe, all mine have key/combo locks.

Jack Bauer
July 26, 2006, 07:23 AM
I sleep with a concealed carry piece in a shoulder holster, a backup gun on my leg, while cuddling my shotgun. I have two trained dobermans on either side of my bed and four pit bulls on the other side of a 3-inch titanium bedroom door. The exterior windows are bulletproof and I have 6 moving spotlights illuminating the yard with nearly a dozen cameras and motion detectors which will instantly sound an alarm and release the dogs on an intruder. The neighbors think I'm nuts but no home invasions yet!

I have the same setup! Works well, don't it? :D

revjen45
July 26, 2006, 09:47 AM
I sleep with anywhere from 2 to 5 handguns where I can reach them plus a 1,000,000 candlepower spotlight. No, I have never drawn down on my wife when she goes to the restroom. She is the only other person living in our home. I would rather be ready than fumbling with a lock when faced with imminent harm.

PythonGuy
July 26, 2006, 12:14 PM
Have we reached the point of total absurdity yet??? :eek:

pdkflyguy
July 26, 2006, 01:47 PM
I think we're getting pretty close to it.

Capt Charlie
July 26, 2006, 04:01 PM
My safety is my brain. It rarely fails.
Now that's a much more interesting statement than it might appear to be. The question is, what part of your brain?

In the seconds after being rudely awakened, are all of your cognitive abilities functioning fully? Very few can say that they are. While you're trying to shake the cobwebs out, your subconscious is in control, and the trouble with that is the subconscious isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. It can act, but it simply isn't capable of making a complex, shoot/don't shoot decision.

This is a case in which repetitive training can actually cause more harm than good. When you're awake and thinking, the conscious mind governs the muscle memory, but when you're half asleep, there is no governor reining in on the subconscious, and it's free to do what you've taught it, which is draw and shoot, without constraint.

As Col. Dave Grossman put it, "you've taught a puppy tricks". His theory is that the subconscious mind has about the same cognitive abilities as a dog. The question is, when your wife walks through your door, do you want that dog in charge of your weapon? ;)

So what's the solution? How about setting the conditions so that the puppy can't access the weapon, but the master can? My way of doing that is to secure my weapon in such a way that it takes two, distinct actions requiring conscious thought to retrieve it. Specifically, I must open a closed drawer and draw the gun from a level III retention holster. I can still access the gun in a hurry if need be, but it's highly unlikely that I can do it without thinking, as in half asleep.

If any of you ever get the chance, I strongly recommend Col. Grossman's seminar on "The Bulletproof Mind". He addresses a lot of this in an interesting and entertaining way.

springmom
July 26, 2006, 04:52 PM
Our CHL instructor does the same thing, Capt. Charlie, and strongly suggests that. The hubster and I were thinking about a bedside handgun safe instead for two reasons. First, hubster has been known to sleepwalk and he has in fact been known to open dresser drawers, looking for things, while sound asleep. Second, it functions as an all-the-time place for the bedside gun, whereas if I leave a gun in a drawer, youngest son will run across it while trying to scrounge for batteries for his CD Walkman :rolleyes:

Up until now what I've done is put the XD on the nightstand (next to ME, not Sleeping Beauty next to me, lol) at bedtime and then put it back into my purse (its daytime home) in the morning. Now that I have 3 handguns of my own, though, one is going to live bedside all the time, and that means either getting it in and out of our big safe every time, or getting a little safe.

Springmom

farmer-dave
July 26, 2006, 07:16 PM
I had a similar incident happen to me about 10 years ago in college. I had a knee injury and the doctor gave me some 800 mg ibuprofen tablets. My girlfriend came in (middle of the night)I freaked out thinking she was a burglar (no gun) according to her I got up fists clenched and was ready to beat her up like a burglar had just walked in. I woke up the next morning having a crazy dream and my girlfriend was terrified of me. I had no idea what happened was a real event. I no longer take large doses of ibuprofen and I make sure I keep the gun in a place that I hope I'd have to really be awake to get it and I also have a lock on the bedroom door, plus I'm married now so no middle of the night surprise guests :(

John28226
July 26, 2006, 07:27 PM
Did anyone mention that cocking a revolver under stress might be a mistake in itself?

My wife does not know that you can cock her 637. All of our shooting is double action which allows for a slight "press" without firing.

In any event, everyone has a different situation at their home. Hopefully each will address it appropriately. What worked for me with small children in the house was a revolver loaded with Speer plastic ammo. Never had to use it in an emergency but if I had, I am confident that the intruder would have thought they had been shot with something more powerful.

Maybe I am wrong but I happen to believe that most house breakers are seeking an easy target and don't come ready to shoot me.

John
Charlotte, NC

kenneth owens
July 26, 2006, 08:20 PM
you need to check out (gunvaults) I have the gv 1000 it is a very nice safe

BobK
July 26, 2006, 09:37 PM
1. Training, training, and training.
2. Use a pistol lock box.
3. Never cock a double action revolver. They are meant to used DA only unless you need a precision shot at a moderate distance.
4. Have your girlfriend call before she gets home.

Sport45
July 27, 2006, 10:37 AM
Maybe if you keep firearms out at night you shouldn't give house keys to everyone you know?

Roberta X
July 27, 2006, 10:51 AM
Drill, drill, drill: I never, ever have a finger in the triggerguard until I am going to fire. Not at the range, not at home with a gun I unloaded that has never left my hands, not nohow ever.

It seems to work. When my ex was working nights and cheating on me mornings (nope, I had no idea. I'm a ijit that way), he started being very, very quiet when he came home -- even though I was begging him to be noisy, as he was getting home about the time I needed to get up anyway.

Well, sneaking in kept waking me up with adrenaline going (yeech), and sure enough, the little DAO would be the first thing I'd pick up -- but held at ready and finger off the trigger. Drill. My subconscious -- or whatever -- only knows the one way to handle a gun. (AFAIK, he was only aware of this once, when he'd done an exceptionally good job of sneaking in and caught me reholstering).


Living alone now, the little DAO is never far from me. And never unloaded.

FRANK1669
July 27, 2006, 12:50 PM
My wife does not know that you can cock her 637. All of our shooting is double action which allows for a slight "press" without firing.

Never cock a double action revolver. They are meant to used DA only unless you need a precision shot at a moderate distance.

Drill, drill, drill: I never, ever have a finger in the triggerguard until I am going to fire. Not at the range, not at home with a gun I unloaded that has never left my hands, not nohow ever.


The reason I cock a DA is my first shot I want the most accuracy possible for the number 1 reason. the Number 2 reason if someone is that close and get there hand on your weapon ( exactly they grab the cylinder) You cant fire a double action I live in a small house from my door to my bed is only 10 maybe 12 feet

Seriously, How do you drill for someone waking you? The time it took me to grab cock and point(aimed and ready to fire) from the door opening was probably less than a second defiantly less than 2 seconds she hadn’t finished opening the door or and was only half way in. I'm always looking for ways to improve my knowledge of firearms whether it is to shoot faster safer or how they work

Ares45
July 27, 2006, 01:33 PM
Have we reached the point of total absurdity yet???

I think we're getting pretty close to it.

No, we're definitely there.

tepin
July 27, 2006, 09:36 PM
Thanks for sharing. In my house there is a duty to announce even when it means waking up the other person. Plus, playing the odds, statistically, having someone invade your home would be like winning the lottery; well maybe a little better then winning the lottery. So, when I hear a noise in the middle of the night I grab the gun but assume it’s probably not an intruder.

BobK
July 28, 2006, 12:39 AM
Frank, regarding shooting your revolver SA or DA.

Shooting a revolver DA only accurately is an art. It is possible but takes much practice.

Using the SA mode in self defense is not wise and could bring about a law suit or worse in getting someone hurt unintentionally. Decocking a revolver is also potentially hazardous. Yes, it's easier to shoot SA accurately. But it's also easier to make a mistake.

raymond-
July 28, 2006, 12:56 AM
i dont see why one shouldn't cock the hammer to induce SA mode. after all,
we strive to become one with our firearm. we forge ourselves to become
a fighting machine. we train so our 'safety' is our brain -- it never fails.

:)

whoa...i almost pulled it off w/o smiling. truth is, as Capt Charlie implied
above, we are human and comes with that, the ebb and flow of human
emotions, physical limitations and distractions. and if that hasn't sunk in,
then you're resigned to live in your fantasy world of "Keyboard Mercenary,
Super Hero"

There is no perfect answer for everyone. The tools are to be selected and
configured for your level of skill and discipline. the training should never
stop....and should be replenished on a regular basis.

U.S.SFC_RET
July 28, 2006, 05:46 AM
I agree that having a loaded gun on a night stand can lead to a burglar picking it up and you staring at the barrel. I also agree that it being on the nightstand just leaves the gun too accessible when you are half asleep. I might have a solution for you. Buy the type of pistol safe that mounts into the wall and looks like a picture frame, all you need to do is swing open the picture and take out the gun. You have to stand up to do it and tha is a lot safer than picking up a pistol when you are half asleep. It's also serves as a hiding place in case a burglar decides to visit your home when you are not there or when kids are around, whether they are your kids or someone else's.

PythonGuy
July 28, 2006, 07:39 AM
You can buy the type of pistol safe that mounts to your bedframe and has a touch keypad that you can program to a code of your choosing. They are very well made and offer the peace of mind to get a good nights sleep, literally, but keep your weapon close. You can find them online for $75 to $100 and it's an excellent solution to this matter.

Roberta X
July 28, 2006, 06:29 PM
You're going to need every second you have if someone breaks into your house. Struggling with a lock or standing to get at some complicated hiding place can get you killed.

If you don't have children (or child-like adults) running loose in your home, why get complicated? If you simply must hide your sidearm, why not just put it in the nightstand drawer? --Or admit to yourself that if push comes to shove you're not actually willing to defend yourself, and put the thing away in the safe, from which it is unlikely to crawl out and discharge itself.

...Last but not least, if you've not drilled yourself to never, ever stick your finger through the trigger guard until you're on target and ready to shoot, just what have you been doing? I see the trigger-sloppy most every time I go to the range. They worry me. IMO, it's no way to handle firearms.

BobK
July 28, 2006, 08:38 PM
The pistol boxes are great if you have kids. But the problem I have with most pistol lock boxes is that most of them make some sort of noise when being opened such as a audible beep or mechanical click. This definately gives you away in a quiet house. I have one bolted to the top of my dresser. When I come home I put my gun in it. At bed time the gun is next to me on my nightstand.

I think the key to the whole situation is communication with family members and making it as difficult as possible for someone to break into your home. Give yourself every possible opportunity to hear your bad guy while he is trying to break in. The only way someone is going to get in my house is to break glass. I will definately hear that and have enough time for my motor skills to work and my head to clear.

Home security should not start and end with the purchase of a firearm. There is much more to consider.

John28226
July 28, 2006, 08:50 PM
Roberta, you said it very well. I agree with you and would suggest that, since each situation is different, anyone trying to use a broad brush method should rethink their position.

Frank, cock your revolver if that is your preference. I happen to think that double action is safer and just as accurate. I shoot that way up to 50 yards which is a little more space than from my bed to the door.

When I am home, my alarm is set; when I am traveling my gun is in my shoe beside the bed. The funny "latch" on the door is engaged.

Hopefully I will never have to shoot anyone but I have had occasion to think that I might need to do so and the available gun was quite comforting.

John

choochboost
July 29, 2006, 01:43 AM
I am amazed that some of you are saying that you are not fully awake when "something goes bump in the night". When that happens to me...something that makes me want to go for my gun...I am VERY awake.

And there it is....http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/choochboost/629c3ea3.jpg

The Texican.
August 3, 2006, 11:24 PM
Rio ------ We also have 5 house dogs. <<<>>> Why???
++++++

Home Security: Dogs, motion detectors and loaded weapons.

One or two dogs in the house that bark at anyone that approaches the house is your first alarm. We have two that have been trained with positive reinforcement to bark when someone approaches the house.

Our second alarm is a motion detector in the living area at the hallway to the bedroom wing.

Third alarm is two loaded S&W's, one on each side of the bed. I had my first weapon (a single shot 22 rifle) at the age of five and was raised with loaded weapons in the house. Our sons were rasied that way and our grandson is being rasied that way. Teach and children will learn and follow the teachings.

Get a motion detector (Cleaner than dogs, but not as fun especailly when they go off at 2:30 in the morning the detectors and the dogs.). Set the detector every time you go to bed. If it alarms, react as if your home has been invaded, until you know otherwise.

Having a motion detector or fire alarm that are not activated is like having a gun that is not loaded, you could potentially forfeit your life because of same.

dragonfire
August 4, 2006, 12:28 AM
Having young children I keep My guns all locked up.The older three know better than to touch but my youngest is only two.What i usually do is keep my shotgun loaded but not chambered behind bedroom door then in the am I unload it and lock it back up.I also have a dog that barks at anyone who comes in.