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Keegster
July 22, 2006, 11:16 PM
Hello,
I am new to the forum and this is my first post. I look forward to the future
and all I can learn from the people on this forum.

I am currently restoring an old 16 gauge Hopkins and Allen shotgun. The barrel was reblued and looks beautiful but the bore is very dark, pitted, and rusty. What is the best way to polish and clean the bore back to service. Thanks for the comments in advance.

DnPRK
July 22, 2006, 11:25 PM
Use Butch's Bore Shine and a 16 gage brush.

If it's a Damascus twist barrel or deeply pitted, I wouldn't shoot it...Just clean and hang on the wall as a conversation piece. Life is too short to spend it with mangled fingers and chunks of steel in your skull.

Doubletaptap
July 24, 2006, 02:39 AM
Another good thing for rusty barrels is them 3M green scrubbers that they sell to scrub pots and pans with.
They're also great for lapping bores with sharp riflings in them. A lot of elbow grease but they work.

Unclenick
July 24, 2006, 09:51 AM
If you just got it re-blued, the red color you see may be from the bluing process and not be actual rust. Gunzilla (http://www.topduckproducts.com/) will do a pretty fair job of removing it. I've seen a sectioned shotgun barrel with actual surface rust it had been used on, and it did remarkably well at cleaning it up. Using the Butch's Bore shine or Shooter's Choice or almost any other cleaner will also remove most of the red bluing if you use a brush. Shooter's Choice mixed with Kroil for added penetrating properties has been used by benchrest shooters for years.

Check with whoever did your bluing. They generally avoid putting rust in the bluing bath, so he may have dealt with the pitting already.

If the bore actually is pitted with real rust, you want to be sure to kill it all the way down in the pits, and not just at the surface, or it will continue to migrate through the steel until it makes a hole. I've been experimenting with a couple of new products I can recommend. These are Rust Release (http://www.rustrelease.com/) and Evapo-Rust (http://www.evapo-rust.com/). They are non-toxic and water-based and work by chelating the rust with organic molecules. To use them, you would plug your bores with neoprene stoppers, fill them carefully with the liquid and let them sit overnight to be sure of addressing the deep rust. A blackened surface will remain behind. CAUTION: These products will remove bluing (all rust removers will, that I am aware of) so you have to use them carefully. To fill a shotgun, a plastic watering can with a long thin spout should prevent spillage. If you get any on your new bluing, rinse it off immediately. It works slowly enough that you should have time to do that. Keep a damp rag and a little formula 409 at the ready.

The chelating rust removers are rinsed out with water. I would pour boiling distilled water down the tubes for final rinse, followed immediately by a dry patch. The heat will flash dry and leave a micro-thin blue oxide layer on exposed surfaces in its place. A water displacing oil or rust inhibiting (Birchwood Casey Sheath or LPS-1) substance afterward, followed by your regular gun oil to prevent new rust is recommended.

After you are sure the barrels are rust-free, have a gunsmith who knows shotguns take a bore scope to them to determine whether the gun is safe to shoot? Modest pitting from the middle of the tubes forward is far less significant than pits near the chamber end where pressure is much higher.

Nick