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dfaugh
June 25, 2006, 11:57 AM
I've been invited on a boar hunt. It's basically a "canned" hunt in a large area. I'm told most Boar will be 150-200 lbs. but there may be some larger (up to 400 lbs., rarely but possible). I've read some of the threads on how hard it is to kill these guys (sometimes) so I'd like an opinion on the best gun to use. Note that I'm disabled, and will probably be hunting from a stationary position, so the gun weight isn't an issue, and shots will probably be relatively short. I can't afford a new gun, so the options are:

12 gauge, w/ either slug or buckshot (this is set up as an HD gun, probably less than ideal)

SKS (legally limited to 5 rounds) but with a bayonet for backup:D )

Model 8 Remington in .35 Remington

Sporterized Mauser in 8mm-06 AI (THUMPER), powerful, but a bolt so followup is not real quick.

What's everyone think?

sm
June 25, 2006, 12:25 PM
May I recommend a search under "Hog Hunting" using the usernames :

Rich Lucibella
Harley Quinn
H&H Hunter
Johnny Guest

and

9mm :p



Some good stuff in the archives.

Steve

Greybeard
June 25, 2006, 12:28 PM
Any of 'em should drop most hogs on the spot at close range - if you do your part in hitting just behind and below the ear. Lots of luck in getting the piggies to cooperate on that one.

Buzzkill
June 25, 2006, 12:40 PM
Hi dfaugh :)

Now please take my suggestion with a pinch of salt because I have limited knowledge of boar behaviour patterns and the like ,but ah sure what the heck

Im kinda a Rifle guy at heart really so im gonna say the mauser 8mm 06 :eek:
although follow up shots arent very fast with a "bolt'y" if you have good shot placement with your first shot ,Id say he would be fairly well done and dusted

also im assuming your HD shotgun has a mag extension so if that was loaded up to the brim with slugs then you would have a whole lot of firepower .although assuming your shotgun is cylinder bore I wouldn,t say you would get much acuarecy ,so it would be a strictly short range option .

well I think ive reached my Quota for wisdom for the day ;)

anyway whatever you gun you pick make sure it works and be safe .

Regards
Bob:)

dfaugh
June 25, 2006, 01:05 PM
A little more detail.

I will always prefer a shot at a stationary target "to get the job done" with one shot. I think any of the guns will do that at short range. BUT, since others will be walking/stalking they may be "driving" the Boar to me, and I may not get a stationary shot. I wouldn't take a fast-running shot, but the pig may be moving. There is also some chance (based on experience of my friends that have hunted there before) that I may be "charged", and I don't move real fast.

The shotgun is adequately accurate for less than 40 yard shots(can shoot a 6" group, easily), as is the .35 Remington (Open sights that I can't use well, due to vision problems, but again a <6" group at 50 yards).

I'm really leaning towards the SKS (fast follow up shots) or the 8mm-06 AI (seriously disabling, if not fatal, and the follow up will definitely finish him, overkill if you wanna look at it that way, but better safe than sorry).

This may also be the only chance I get at "trophy" type hunting, Except maybe deer, before I'm unable to hunt much more. So I'll probably pass on smaller animals, and try to go for a decent (but not necessarilyy huge) one.

P.S. I searched "HOG Hunting" and got about a million results, many of which aren' relevant (don't know why). But I've been reading all the "hog" threads for the last 6 months, so I've probably seen most.

banditt007
June 25, 2006, 02:09 PM
swing by at www.texasboars.com

dave0520
June 25, 2006, 02:20 PM
I would go with the .35 Remington. It should easily put down a piggy as long as you get decent placement. The SKS will also work fine. I say if you're comfortable with the .35 Remington, you that. If you to be able to ventilate a pig if it charges, you the SKS.

dave0520
June 25, 2006, 02:20 PM
Dupe.

Scorch
June 25, 2006, 04:54 PM
I've shot pigs with 45ACP, 44mag, 357 mag, 30-30, 7X57, 8X57, 9X57, 8mm Rem Mag, 375 H&H, 444, 45-70. I can tell you this: if you do your part and place the bullet well, the animal will go down with any one of the rounds you mentioned. One caveat: with light calibers (223, 45ACP, 7.62X39. 30 Remington, etc), shoot them in the head. With the others, go for a broadside shot in the lungs and get ready to follow them.

If you go for a chest shot on a small pig, penetration is no big deal. If you shoot a big boar in the chest, shoot him dead center through the top of the shoulder. If you hit his shoulderblade, it will put him down and he will stay down.

I personally would take the 8-06, but then I don't like chasing them.

12 gauge will definitely stop a pig.

Harley Quinn
June 25, 2006, 11:11 PM
Since I have a 35 Remington Lever, Johnny Guest and I discussed it. He felt it would be a good one.

I wish Ashley Emerson would show up once in a while and give us a few words of wisdom.

I like the idea of the SKS and the bayonet, get in close and stick um :D Take both and see what you come up with.

HQ

hoghunting
June 25, 2006, 11:30 PM
I'd use the 35 Rem. Since you won't have long shots, penetration isn't an issue as the 35 will work wonders out to 150 yds. Good luck.

Dirty_Harry
June 26, 2006, 08:22 PM
What do you shoot the best with?

Personally, I would take the .35 remington. You have more power than the 7.62x39, without the recoil of the 8mm. You have an ultra reliable firearm, and faster follow up shots than the 8mm.

My second choice would be the 8mm, then the sks.

The shotguns range is too limited, but as a defense against the beast you cannot go wrong.

Dirty

Bigfatts
June 26, 2006, 08:47 PM
My good buddy hunts hogs and deer alike religiously with a Marlin in .35 Remington. I have seen some of the kills, very clean. I vote for that.

CobrayCommando
June 26, 2006, 08:53 PM
May I recommend a search under "Hog Hunting" using the usernames :

Rich Lucibella
Harley Quinn
H&H Hunter
Johnny Guest

and

9mm



Some good stuff in the archives.

Steve

LOL

pumpkinheaver
June 26, 2006, 09:20 PM
I would use the 8mm-06 or the .35 remington.

Blammer
June 26, 2006, 09:31 PM
Either work. Got a .35Rem, but haven't used it on pigs. The biggest pig I've seen shot (NOT by Me) was 300+ lbs & was dropped by a King City (Ca) reserve cop using an old S&W Mod 10 .38spl = shot it in the ear as it went trotting out of the chapperal to munch some farmers row crops. That pig fed a BBQ of 50+ people:D YUM!:cool:

FirstFreedom
June 26, 2006, 10:54 PM
Well, as you say, you could put your "pig-sticker" on the SKS - they call it that for a reason! If you use the SKS, the 154 gr Wolf soft point would work. But on a canned hunt which I'm paying good money for, I'd use the bigger boomer for a more sure kill - the 8mm-06 - *provided* that it's accurate and you're accurate with it. The first shot is likely all you're going to get, and all you'll need.

taylorce1
June 27, 2006, 07:38 AM
Use the 8mm you will not regret it. I used a .270 Win and a .35 Remington on my last hunt, both rifle worked well but I passed on some big boars that hung out on the far side of the field that I was hunting at about 140 yds. I didn't feel that I could take them with my .35 at that distance, I was wishing I had brought my .270 to the stand. I took two pigs on the hunt both over 150 pounds and one with each rifle, both dropped in their tracks but that was at 40 yds.

Smokey Joe
June 27, 2006, 10:32 AM
If you're accurate with it, it will Do The Job, and you shouldn't need a follow up shot. (I would use the heaviest bullets you can get that are accurate with the rifle.)

Now, if you DO need a follow-up shot, as Finn Aagard said, "It is amazing how fast you can work a bolt-action when you are frightened."

dfaugh
June 27, 2006, 10:46 AM
Well, for all intents and purposes the shotgun (with red-dot), the SKS, and the .35 are equally accurate to about 50 yards, in part because (due to vision problems) I can't use open sights very effectively(can't find a scope mount for the Model 8 Remington). The 8mm-06 AI is more accurate (for me), at longer ranges. And with handloads, it approaches the power of a .338 Win Mag., way more (2x) than the .35 Remington. At first I was gonna use the Model 8 in .35 Remington (it is an autoloader for fast follow-up which is good, and its is pretty powerful). However, this thing kicks like a mule, worse than the 8mm (which has a ported barrel, and a good recoil pad.) Not a big problem while hunting, but would affect speed of follow-up shots.

Edited to add: Yeah, I can work a bolt gun pretty fast. Not as fast as a semi, but pretty fast.

smiljko
June 28, 2006, 09:36 AM
Hi there!


I would definitely recommend the 8mm,or a shotgun loaded with winchester supreme slugs.
I've seen too many big boars that got away shot by an SKS round- it is waay to weak for such an animal,and I guarantee that even a heart shot won't bring it down immediately,of course a head shot will,but if the pigs are on the run,even on clear terrain it is hard to place it precisely.
What scope is on your 8mm-smaller magnification and wide field of wiew is better.

P.S-are those feral pigs or european wild pigs?

Cheers

john in jax
June 28, 2006, 09:51 AM
You seem real comfortable with the 8mm and it certainly packs enough punch to get the job done. But if the .35 is scoped (you mentioned vision problems) so you can reach out there a little further, then I'd go with it.

Here's a couple of websites you might find helpful:

http://www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html

http://www.fishandhunttexas.com/claybullhogdeerartv2.htm

Harley Quinn
June 28, 2006, 10:58 AM
Sounds like the 8mm-06 is the one you should be using. Practice with it but take a back up.
SKS would be my thought since you mentioned it. You might have a day of stalking and it would be a good one under those conditions. Bayonet to the rescue :D .

I can't even imagine the 35 kicking much more then an SKS, both autos and they take up an awful lot of the recoil. :confused:

Take care have fun.

HQ:cool:

dfaugh
June 29, 2006, 09:26 AM
But if the .35 is scoped (you mentioned vision problems) so you can reach out there a little further, then I'd go with it.

Yeah the .35 has good range, but I can't find a scope mount available for it, so its a short range proposition, for me.

SKS would be my thought since you mentioned it. You might have a day of stalking and it would be a good one under those conditions. Bayonet to the rescue

No stalking. I can't walk more than few hundred feet. Will take an ATV into the woods and walk a ways to whatever position I'll be in.

I can't even imagine the 35 kicking much more then an SKS, both autos and they take up an awful lot of the recoil.

Believe me, that .35 is WICKED for recoil. I can shoot the SKS all day...but that .35 wallops me. Its as bad as my Mosin M-44 or Mauser, with steel buttplates.

Thanks for all the input (but more still welcome). Looks like I'll take the 8mm-06 (with a red-dot) and the .35 Remington for backup.

P.S. These are wild (Russian?) boar, not feral pigs.

FrontSight
June 30, 2006, 02:31 PM
Are you going to Creekside Ranch?

Lutefisk
June 30, 2006, 02:47 PM
I'm not saying this is the best rifle for what has got to be the greatest hunting possible (I love boar hunting-big ugly beasts) but on my last hunt I bagged a 170 pounder with an M1 Garand.
Any 30-06 will do the trick-have fun but be careful, calm and don't let them near you because up close they will freak you out.
Enjoy.

Harley Quinn
June 30, 2006, 05:35 PM
The 8mm-06, and 35 should do the job. But like you are saying if you have some difficulty in getting around you want mr. Piggy dead and no hangers arounders to munch.

Hopefully you will have a hunting pard.

HQ

DobermansDoItGoofy
July 1, 2006, 05:29 PM
Well, my favorite hog gun is an ol' Marlin 30/30.

There could be better or worse choices...but I'm not out to hunt hogzilla, but just any nice little ham. A nice little hog under 150lbs. taken usually at a range under 75 yards and a lot of times under 50 yards...

The 30/30 is a good brush gun and it allows a quck 2nd shot and its pleasant to shoot... The ammo is cheap... :cool:

Barber2678
July 3, 2006, 03:09 PM
I have used just about everything from a .22 pistol to my 7mm STW to 12 ga. #6's (Ok, it was a small pig rooting up my back yard at 2:00 AM!!!). Shot placement is the key. If you are a good shot or have a good scope save your shoulder. If not sling the heavy lead!

dfaugh
July 4, 2006, 09:48 AM
Are you going to Creekside Ranch?

Not sure...My buddy is setting it up. He showed me their website, but I've forgotten it now.

USNairman
July 12, 2006, 06:23 AM
My buddy recently booked a hog hunt in Georgia and they told him to bring at least a 30-06 or larger. I have never hunted boar so I cannot personally comment on what rifle would be best.

timothy75
July 14, 2006, 01:50 AM
Use the sks I have taken many boars it has never let me down good luck!!!!

remjeep75
July 14, 2006, 07:32 PM
take the 35 rem

Encore Joe
July 30, 2006, 03:27 PM
I used to be a member of a club in central Florida and at times the hogs got so overpopulated we had special hog only weekends. Needless to say everyone got creative in their selection of weapons. I've taken hogs with everything from 30-06 - 357 mag - down to 22 mag with good shot placement. Hogs have poor eyesight and a lone pig is easy to walk up on from downwind. Would not recomend trying that with a large group, too many eyes and snouts to detect you, and if they get too wound up...well can you say "old Yeller"

Jack O'Conner
August 1, 2006, 10:10 AM
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/rushmoreman/elkcowPA.jpg

This is a big cow elk that fell to the mighty 35 Remington after a long stalk in rough country. This animal weighed about 575 lbs live!

I'm certain your 35 will topple a boar quite nicely.
Jack

Death from Afar
August 2, 2006, 06:51 PM
IT really depends on the terrain. I have slain a few grunters in close NZ bush with buckshot, and great fun it is too. WIthout ghost rings though, you can forget about slugs. I reckon the 8mm.

Fat White Boy
August 3, 2006, 12:57 AM
I use a .270. I use 130gr Core-lokt store bought ammo. It knocks em down right now...The biggest I have shot with the .270 was right at 200 lbs. The guide I use also uses a .270.

samsmix
August 3, 2006, 02:06 AM
Your 8mm sounds like a heck of a sporting rifle. If it were me I might go with the .35 Rem, but since you said iron sights give you trouble, as does recoil, I believe both would be a poor choice under your circumstances. Sorry folks, he cannot put a scope on an M8 Remmy.

You dislike recoil
You want fast follow ups
You don't shoot iron sights well

The best option for you sounds like putting a scope on your SKS.

Pointer
August 3, 2006, 06:44 PM
Sporterized Mauser in 8mm-06 AI (THUMPER), powerful, but a bolt so followup is not real quick.


The .35 is a good choice...

The thumper 8mm-06 is great and if you don't really screw it up, you won't need the follow-up shot... even if the pig is over 400 pounds... :)

Smokey Joe
August 3, 2006, 07:40 PM
Re how fast you can work a bolt: Well, as the late, great Finn Aagard put it, "It never ceases to amaze me, how fast I can work a bolt action when I am frightened."

Now, granted, an autoloader will still be faster, but never fear, if you need a 2nd shot with yr Mauser, it will be there for you. No pig is going to travel anywhere near 2500 feet per second.

And I agree with Pointer, with the 8mm, you'll have screwed up badly indeed if you need that second shot. An 8mm, with, say, a 200 grain Nosler Accubond, or Partition, is a real thumper.

ammo.crafter
August 3, 2006, 08:24 PM
The .35 will work for pigs of that size. I do lots of hog hunting and use a .444 with 300gr and a S&W #57 in .41 mag for follow up.

Hogs at 300 LBS + can be hard to put down and you should place your shot carefully and do not let the adrenilin get in your way. Be ready for a second shot. I would leave the bolt action at home and same for the shotgun.

Have fun; they're good eatin'!::D

stephen426
August 3, 2006, 09:50 PM
I don't want to hijack this thread, but I am planning on going on a hog hunt as well. As you can see from my signature, my arsenal has few suitable hunting weapons. The natural choice would be the shotgun or the .357 mag. While hogs have been downed with less, I don't want to risk simply injuring an animal.

I was thinking about investing in a rifle but I want to get a good general purpose cartridge that can be used on different game. I was thinking about a .30-06 since that would be good for deer as well. I am thinking about getting a Sako 75 (http://www.berettausa.com/product/spotlight/spotlight_sako75_main.htm) since it came very highly recommended. I did a search for Sako on this forum but I didn't find very much. Please share any experiece you guys might have with this rifle.

Pointer
August 4, 2006, 03:28 PM
No pig is going to travel anywhere near 2500 feet per second

Careful with this one...

He only needs about one second to travel about 35 feet!!

Make the first shot count... just like with a human assailant...

If someone will send me step by step instructions on how to post a video...
I will post a VERY interesting and exciting pig hunting video for this thread...