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miscusi
April 24, 2006, 10:11 PM
I saw in many bugs bunnie cartoons, that if you put a finger in the barrel, elmer fudd will blow up instead of you..

any truth behind that ?

Jim Watson
April 24, 2006, 10:36 PM
Only if you are a cartoon character, too. Or as smart as one.
Mythbusters tried (simulated) fingers in muzzles and it did not have much effect. You CAN obstruct a gun barrel enough for energetic disassembly, a little mud will work fine.

NedreckSavant
April 24, 2006, 10:43 PM
I never understood how a lil mud or oil is said to be able to destroy the barrel. So if someone had a gun to your head how much good would it do to hock a loogey in the barrel?

Syntax360
April 24, 2006, 10:58 PM
a half submerged barrel (as in dipped in a cup of water) can cause the barrel to visually swell and render the pistol useless. Shooting one underwater with a significant amount of air in the barrel can cause a kaboom.

Pointer
April 24, 2006, 11:04 PM
If the barrel is the same caliber as your finger...
and your finger is made of metal it might back blow some gas in the shooters face and possibly damage the barrel...

Explode? Nah! :cool:

Edward429451
April 24, 2006, 11:28 PM
I seen a shotgun barrel peeled four ways like a banana because the owner decided to shoot a lil plug of snow from it when he had walked too close to a snow bank. Just the barrel was damaged, shooter was fine.

Dfariswheel
April 25, 2006, 01:17 AM
As above, the Myth Busters recently busted the myth that plugging a shotgun barrel could cause the muzzle to blow open like a banana peel.

Bottom line, no matter what they tried, INCLUDING putting a steel plug in the muzzle, they were unable to get the Remington Express barrel to "banana peel".
The best they got was a split in the side of the barrel.

Plugging the muzzle with simulated fingers, INCLUDING with a "bone" in the finger accomplished nothing.
The "fingers" were simply blown out of the barrel.

Their conclusion: Myth Busted! A shotgun barrel, (at least their Remington barrel) will not blow open like a banana peel.

NedreckSavant
April 25, 2006, 02:09 AM
All I know is regardless, I'm not stickin nothing in anything to find out.

miscusi
April 25, 2006, 02:46 AM
well then if it isnt true, those antis will make an issue out of it, how kids will put fingers in barrels and get their hands blown off. just kidding... I wonder how abouts this urban or acutally "woodlands" legend got its start.. why the loony toons people used it, and why it appears in numerous films and tv shows..

Edward429451
April 25, 2006, 09:29 AM
I didn't make up what I saw. To clarify, I didn't see the guy take the shot that ruined the barrel, He was trying to sell the barrel at a yard sale for 15 bucks. I talked to him about it and that's what he said happened. I did take a pretty good look at it and the metal wasn't cut or anything, it was ripped backwards in four pc's just like a banana peel. About 12" back. I suppose he could have been pulling my leg and did it to the barrel somehow himself. But he didn't act like he was the type being an older guy and I had no reason to think he was lieing.:confused:

It was a round barrel, long, with no vent rib. The brand didn't come up.

AAshooter
April 25, 2006, 09:44 AM
We show a Rem 1100 barrel that is split open that some kid shot in our Hunter Education classes. He submerged the end of the gun in water and pulled the trigger. Although it is not "Bananna Peeled", it is dramatic.

Did myth busters try the 20 gauge/12 gauge combo in a shotgun?

Jim Watson
April 25, 2006, 09:47 AM
I have seen many pictures and some actual examples of banana peeled barrels from bore obstructions. Some barrels are tougher than others. Parker demonstrated the strength of their steel by dropping a 20 ga shell into the forcing cone of a 12 ga gun and blowing it out with a 12 ga shell. This is catastrophic on an ordinary gun of the period but the Parker stood it. So will some modern guns made of stronger steel.
Hatcher's Notebook has a chapter on just what obstructions will bulge or burst a rifle barrel and which will not.

Don't take a TV show, whether a cartoon or Mythbusters (How do you tell which is which?), as the last word on this or any technical subject.

Dfariswheel
April 25, 2006, 01:47 PM
To be fair, many older shotguns have thinner barrels than modern guns, and years ago they didn't have screw in chokes or vent ribs to add possible reinforcement.

Over the years most of obstructed shotguns I saw either bulged or split the muzzle, or ruptured the barrel farther back.

I have to say, I've never seen a "banana peel" shotgun, in person.

44 AMP
April 25, 2006, 09:06 PM
I did see the mythbusters show, and all they were able to do was make the barrrel split. I think a classic banana peel is unlikely, but possible, with older shotguns that had very thin barrels.

I have, however, actually seen a classic "banana peel" burst barrel, but that was on a 155mm artillery piece!:eek:

Harley Quinn
July 30, 2006, 11:30 PM
To see the "real peel".

HQ

maas
July 31, 2006, 12:31 AM
my buddie shot his shotgun with mud in the end of the barrel and all he got was a split.
now for the dumb @$$ award. my old basball coachs brother recived a 45 for x-mas and for some reason (cant remember if what he was doing) decided to plug the barrell with his feinger pulled the trigger and blew off his feinger. now hes a cop.

Harley Quinn
July 31, 2006, 10:05 AM
Remember the movie, where the guy sticks his finger in the end of a gun barrel sticking towards him?
The Guy holding the pistol yells what are you crazy, you want to get us both killed? It was spoof of one kind or another.:rolleyes:

I can not remember the name of it, reason I mention it. Maybe someone can help with the name of the movie?

Mud in the end of the barrel can ruin a rifle or shotgun. I have heard of people getting hurt. I always check the hole and run a patch when shooting.
Never know what might be in there:eek:

The real experts,recommend to run patch's with a light coat of gun oil through when you are shooting. I read that in an article about the 45-70, guy was very serious about a slight coating. Helps the barrel life.

When in rainy weather many use some sort of object across the in to keep out rain and other items while in the field. Some use a piece of tape, or small latex finger protectors. You don't have to remove it just shoot it.

There are pros and cons in all things that are pertaining to the use of firearms.
I don't believe Elmer and Bugs set a good example myself.:( Guess I am getting old but I did not think it was funny when I watched it in days of old. I would point out to the children it was not a good thing. Rifles and shotguns kill. A real party pooper.:p

Maas, I'll bet he lied about his missing digit. Hmmmmm


HQ

rpeterj
July 31, 2006, 02:35 PM
The name of the movie was "Support your Local Sheriff".

hpg
July 31, 2006, 05:48 PM
I would not advise you to try that. hpg:eek: