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rick12665
March 13, 2006, 04:42 PM
Gun Experts,

Please recommend a relatively quiet firearm for shooting wild cats that come on to my country property.

thank-you,
Rick

Wisby
March 13, 2006, 04:55 PM
I'm not a gun expert but If I was gonna shoot Wild Cats and wanted to be quite about, I would use a .22 If you have bad eyesight and feel a Shotgun would be a better choice. .410's have been killing stuff for a long time within a decent range. I probally wouldn't go out past 20 yards with it though so I could use low brass shells, and a NEF Single shot would probally run you a grand total of 100 bucks

One more thing my buddy has a Beeman Airifle that I'm pretty sure would be able to stop a cat in it's tracks with a head shot. It is really quite and very accrute but the thing cost 700 bucks.

mete
March 13, 2006, 05:02 PM
A 22 lr rifle with subsonic HPs.I use RWS. Very quiet, accurate, effective and even if he takes off it's fatal.

rick12665
March 13, 2006, 05:26 PM
Guys, thanks for the firearm recommendation for the feral cat problem I have.

I forgot to mention is that the feral cats' owner lives right next door to me.

I need to have a firearm that is powerful enough so that once the cat has been shot it does not go back to its "home" next door to me.

thanks,
Rick

Death from Afar
March 13, 2006, 05:33 PM
+1 Mete. Get a Ruger 10/22 and head shoot the ***** cats over bait. They wont go far.

Wisby
March 13, 2006, 05:56 PM
I don't know anything about Cats but Racoons can be a problem sometimes.
Noramlly the local feed store has whats called a Humane Trap. You can catch Racoons in them and drive to the Forest and "Let them Go". The traps don't make noise that anyone would notice and work very well.

Of'Course once Racoons are traped they can make alot of Noise and you might need to be quick about driving them to the forest so Mama Racoon doesn't come to investigate.

cuate
March 13, 2006, 06:22 PM
Feral Cats coming from your neighbors next door. How near or far is next door?
There may be a problem, cats are a little hard to kill, firearms make considerable noise, and cats do roam, even the nicest ones. We gave up using a .22 rifle long ago, if you don't get a head shot you have wounded old tabby and he/she will go home and tell on you. We have trapped some in a live trap baited with canned sardines and then quietly dispatched them, dispatched one with a Winchester Mod. 92 in .45 long colt that dropped on the spot, another with a 220 gr. bullet from a 30-40 Krag. That one exited but did not survive.

On the other side of the cat problem, many folks are cat lovers as are their small children and they grieve over the loss of their pets and will likely replace them thus a never ending cycle. I love good neighbors, their children and usually their pets so if Mr. Tom or Mrs. Puss don't do too much tearing of garbage sacks and the like, I do try to overlook a lot. "Feral People" are a lot more bothersome but my upbringing tends to make me ignore them if possible, I stay away from them.

jhgreasemonkey
March 13, 2006, 08:28 PM
If You Want To Be Really Quiet I Would Use A .22 Like Stated Above. You Can Make All Kinds Of Makeshift Silencers For It. Like For Example A Pop Bottle With The Bottom Cut Out, Fill It With Insulation And Fasten It Over Your Barrel. Thats Assuming You Have A Scope And Not Open Sites. Because This Makes Your Ft Site Usless. Also I Have Seen Pipes Fitted With And Crammed Full With Rubber Washers And That Seems To Work Okay. And If You Dont Care About The Gun A Potato Can Work Too. :d You Also Might Want To Consider A High Powered Air Rifle.

Rimrod
March 13, 2006, 09:31 PM
Let's start with some definitions: And these aren't technical so give me a break.

A wildcat is a certain species of animal in the feline family and my be protected depending on your area.

A feral cat is a house cat without a home and has become "undomesticated".

A family pet that wanders onto your property is a stray.

Around here wildcats are protected and as for the other two the best thing is a conibear 220. For best results, from what I hear:rolleyes: , put it in a heavy box with a hole just big enough for the cat to get into. This helps to keep out innocent animals and is an open invitation for cats. They don't yell and they don't go limping home.

OneInTheChamber
March 13, 2006, 09:32 PM
CB long's .22 LR. That'll take care of the problem; but I wouldn't gurantee an instant drop unless it was a solid headshot. If you can shoot off any kind of shotgun without them hearing, you could probably get away with a full power .22lr load; that way the rifle will cycle and a quick follow up shot will be capable.

moecomputer
March 14, 2006, 12:36 AM
Umm...isn't killing your neighbor's pet a little brutal?

shecky
March 14, 2006, 01:51 AM
So are these cats really feral or not? Even if you are in the right, it may not be wise to shoot the neighbor's pets.

GlocksRfun
March 14, 2006, 02:53 AM
I like to think that U know who's cat u are shooting and that it's a stray or something. Tell u the truth, I don't want to know. What I do know is I watched the previews from those guys shooting prarie dogs with the .50BMG. I'm sure that'll take care of your cat problems. If they will stay still for long enough, and U are a good shot, can probably take em out over a mile away. I guess I shoulda said if ur a really good shot. If that doesn't work, time for the class III permits. Oops, I didn't read the quiet part till just now.. Put a can on the .50

dfaugh
March 14, 2006, 09:07 AM
I forgot to mention is that the feral cats' owner lives right next door to me.

Well, lets see...If the cat has an "owner" then its not Feral. I have a "feral" cat that lives in my barn, keeps down the rodents. I don't feed it or anything, but I'd rather not have someone shoot it either( but he doesn't seen to stray very far from my property).

Personally, I would try some Pavlovian conditioning...See if you can borrow a paintball gun(most fire full auto), and just splatter that sucker a few times...Cat will quickly figure out he doens't want to be in your area. Plus, if the "owners" see the cat all spalttered with paint, they may re-consider letting it roam free.

Rimrod
March 14, 2006, 09:42 AM
It's a pet. It probably isn't the best idea in the world to kill it if you like your neihbors or at least don't want to start a range war.

Depending on the exact problem you can grin and bear it. Or if it is causeing a problem in a certain area such as a flower bed there are chemicals you can spray in the area to keep cats away.

Several years ago there was an incident in a nearby county where a man in a trailer park was having a problem with his neighbors cat getting into his flower bed. The man had asked his neighbor several times to keep the cat away and the neighbor was less than polite in his response. The man caught the cat, killed it and hung it up in a tree in the neighbors front yard with an electrical cord. It made the front page of the newspaper. The judge who fined the neighbor for cruelty to animals said if it had killed it and threw it away he wouldn't have fined him but the animal rights activists were outraged.

Just something to think about.

jhgreasemonkey
March 14, 2006, 02:46 PM
OOPS. I WANTED TO APOLOGISE FOR SUGGESTING MAKE SHIFT SUPPRESORS. THIS MIGHT BE ILLEGAL WHERE YOU LIVE. I WOULDNT WANT TO SUGGEST DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL :eek:

Csspecs
March 14, 2006, 03:55 PM
Get a live trap (one that does not harm the cat). Give the owner the cat back one time with a warning, then if you catch it again bring it to a animal shelter (this is about the only legal way to be rid of them, and its free).

TheGunShack
March 14, 2006, 05:47 PM
Ruger .22WRM 77/22 with 3-9 scope, CCI MAXI MAG +V - Head shot = end of story. I live out in the country, I love quail and rabbits, both to watch and eat. I hate stray cats who eat my quail & bunnies. My 77/22 has dropped them as far as 145meters no problem. Good Luck!

155JHP
March 14, 2006, 06:04 PM
A poisoned blow gun dart!:D

I believe someone has mentioned this following idea already:
I have a very small yard, with many close neighbors. I think and even i could get away with using .22LR CCI 29gr CB short bullets in a RIFLE. CB's in handguns are even fairly loud. The rifle configuration is quiter than most BB guns, yet offers 34ft-lbs of muzzle energy. just make sure of a head shot.
Overpenetration is NOT an issue. These will penetrate just two 2" candles, and get stuck halfway through the third, from a rifle (20"). A handgun (3.5") firing the same round, is louder but offers even less pentration, i.e. they only make it through the first candle, and getting stuck one quarter of the way through the second. You might as well us a HP .177 pellet, from a pellet gun!

maas
March 14, 2006, 06:07 PM
i use what ever i pull out of the safe in a hurry. the last one i bagged was with the 338. i hate stray cats, in case you dont know they **** on your wheels the same as a dog! i got fed up with polishing my aluminum wheels so i took action

orangeTJ
March 14, 2006, 06:39 PM
You must live in a pretty rural area in Nor Cal if you can discharge a .338 without getting the police on your doorstep!

crow
March 15, 2006, 10:33 AM
Is the cat doing anything on your property? Damage of any kind, ect?

Have you talked to your neighbor about the problem?

IMO it seems like killing it should be the last resort kind of thing to do.

crow

Clone
March 15, 2006, 11:04 AM
i second the 22mag, it will have enough punch and isnt as loud as shotguns. the best thing you can do for you pray is to insure a clean kill, and 22lr isnt what i would use on wildcats.

Csspecs
March 15, 2006, 12:25 PM
Now I just want to start by saying that I have no problem killing stray/feral cats. They are a unnatural pest in the US and are going to be the cause of many native song birds going extinct.

However this is your neighbors cat so killing it will get you in some very very deep doo doo. Instead of shooting it you may wish to trap it in a live trap made to catch cats without hurting them. If this cat has been a problem before you may be able to just drop it off at an animal shelter (if one is near by). You can't get in any legal trouble dropping it off.

OneInTheChamber
March 15, 2006, 05:21 PM
I'm sorry, but I take back that advice of mine on the CB longs. I thought you wanted to shoot wild, feral cats without the neighbors knowing; not that you wanted to shoot the neighbors cat.

Don't shoot you neighbor's cat! How'd you like it if someone shot your cat or dog????

If it is a real problem, tell the neighbor first. If that doesn't do it, live trap the animal and return it to its owner. If that doesn't work, get a cheap airsoft gun and maybe zing it a little.

If you kill the cat; you can be held legally responsible (cruelty to animal charges + civil lawsuit).

RNettles
March 15, 2006, 09:25 PM
My stray cat problem now lives 45 miles to the West of here... with two major rivers to cross to get back here... :)

Ga Johnny
March 16, 2006, 09:48 AM
well it looks like the people in charge here prefer dogs over cats, the last time a dog killing thread came along they send everbody nasty emails and locked the thread. But I guess it's OK to discuss ideas for killing the neighbors cats.:confused:

maas
March 17, 2006, 01:15 AM
i have no neighbors there for i shoot cats.

Balloo
March 17, 2006, 02:19 AM
My mother in law had a severe cat problem.There were hundreds of wild cats living under her house and they would always fight in the middle of the night and tear up the trash and stuff.She offered me 5 dollars a cat to wipe them out so me and a friend of mine borrowed a couple traps.We set them up and waited.Cats sure do love a can of tuna.After all three traps were full we would go out in the woods and release them one by one,as soon as they left the cage I would take aim with my trusty mossberg.Not one single cat got away.We repeated the process for 3 days and got mostly all of the cats.All in all I would have made around $180 dollars but since they were my days off and ammo was so cheap,I did it for free:D And after all she is my wifes mother.My friend and I did eat good for those three days.Every night she made a special dinner just for us.

9mm_prn
March 17, 2006, 01:53 PM
Mmmm. Mmmm. Mmmm. Cat backstrap. LOL

I have a cat problem also. The neighbors feed the wild cats around here. They just love to **** all over the cover on my ski boat that I store in my pole barn. Been using the havahart traps at my daughter request. Although I would prefer the cahnce to get a liitle moving target practice with the 10/22.

Have you considered a steel plate sitting on rubber pads. Maybe set a can of tuna on top of the plate and plug that sucker into 110v wall socket. You'll have a pile of cats to scoop up by morning...

Ah, the imagination goes wild when your boat stinks like cat urine.

Wisby
March 17, 2006, 02:20 PM
I was discussing this thread with some friends of mine and we came to a couple conclusions...
1. A man in Seattle just got fined close to 80k from what we rember for killing his neighbors 3 cats and a little jail time so be Real Carefull in whatever you deciede to do.
2. Some of us have Cats since we don't have big yards, mine happens to be a tempermental pain in the Ass but I do like the ole Guy and for that reason I keep him in my Apartment and take care of him. If he got out and someone shot him I would be plenty ****** at the shooter and myself for not taking better care of my responsibility.
3. No matter how it Ends make it sound really nice or like you didn't do anything.

kozak6
March 17, 2006, 04:00 PM
Here's a link to the absolute best option:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202473

;)

swampdog
March 17, 2006, 11:37 PM
Cats are hard to kill. You wouldn't think something that small would be
so tough, but they don't have a rep for 9 lives for nothing. While taking
care of the feral cat problem around my house, I had to chase one 1/4
mile down the road and shoot it out from under my neighbors back deck.
He wasn't real happy about it. The amazing thing about it was the cat
only had half a head from the first shot I hit him with in my backyard. (.22 lr)
We had another one around the house that was pregnant . You wouldn't
see this one very often during the day. I chopped up a carp and an hour later,
silence of the kitty. These were real ferals not anyone's pets.

When my female chocolate lab got big enough, she proved to be an effective
feral cat killer. She certainly seems to enjoy it more than I did. As an added bonus,
she cleans up after herself by eating them so there are no incrimanating bodies
left around if some of the ones she gets ain't exactly feral.

I like and own a couple of cats, btw. They keep the rats down and my lab honest.
For your situation, get a Red Ryder to run them off. The neighbors I've got around
here would be glad to return the favor if I started killing their pets.

azzhandler
March 19, 2006, 04:58 AM
alil antifreeze helps everything go down better:D

sparkysteve
March 19, 2006, 02:14 PM
I would recomend a .410 or .22mag. My bow is fun too. Oh yeah, if it dosen't have a collar on it, and it's on my property, I'm shooting it.

maas
March 20, 2006, 03:43 AM
couldnt agree with you more steve, but sometimes the coller makes a good target:D my personal best is around 250 yards (like i said i have no neighbors) there was a cat on "MY" fince post. to put it nicely the 22-250 politely asked it to get off of it.:D

Jbar4Ranch
March 20, 2006, 11:40 AM
If "country property" = 5 acres or 20 acres or somesuch, and you have a neighbor, ya have to expect his cat(s) to wander a few dozen or a few hundred feet. If "country property" = a section or two and the neighbor is a couple miles off, then the cat(s) may well be feral and not a family pet. We've all read about things like this escalating into nasty physical fueds and court battles, so be careful.

Cats are welcome here, however...
I've perpetually had problems over the years with townfolk buying subdivided "ranchettes" consisting of 5 or 10 acres a couple miles or so away from me, then letting their dogs run loose, because, after all, they're in "the country" now. Dogs like to pack up and chase wildlife and domestic livestock, but when I confront these people about it, the answer is invariably, "Our dog never leaves our yard". Many times, I've found newborn calves all torn to hell from these nice, well behaved doggies, so quite often they never leave my yard.
Ya do whatcha gotta do, then follow the 3S rule: Shoot, Shovel, and Shutup.

maas
March 20, 2006, 08:49 PM
my problem that ive had in the past was people dropping cats off at my house. it started out being one or two at a time and i was ok with them at first, hell i let a few stay in my barn for rat control. then people started dropping them off by the dozens, thats when i started to retaliate.

Bigfatts
March 24, 2006, 12:22 AM
I had a problem a while back with one of the neighbors cats getting into my Koi pond and devouring my baby Koi and most of my Bull Frogs. I told the neighbor and of course their pretty little Mr. Bangles or whatever never leaves their yard. Considering the $10 ea. price tag of the little Sushi's the cat was getting, I just started letting the 90 lb Boxer out whenever the cat came around. After about 3 misses, my "little" Embyr got a tastey little morsel.

cdarney
March 24, 2006, 12:00 PM
I have a neighbor doing the same. There were several feral cats around. She started feeding them. There are now at least a dozen that roam all over the place. They must have parties on my car given the number of cat prints. I think the paint ball solution might be a good idea.

These cats are very destructive. Any birds on the ground are fair game to them and I feed the birds. I haven't seen a rabbit within 200yds of the place for years.

I don't necessarily condone killing them, but they are quite a nusiance.

Anthony2
April 2, 2006, 08:45 PM
My opinion should in no way be construed to consent of innocent killings.

That said:

Look at a "Metro" gun (12 ga. w/ a 6' barrel) the report is quieter than a .22 and is far more effective. :)

308SORRELS
April 2, 2006, 10:34 PM
I live out in the country my nearest neighbor is half a mile away but I have caught there cat 3 times in a live trap and returned it . I am not a cat hater I just do not like them so the last time I shot it with a paintballgun and hit it just right because it never moved again . and I know what you are talking about the people are starting to build on the 6 acre plots around here . I had 3 of them that got in my pheasant pen and just killed all of them and did not even eat them. AS Mad as I was my wife helped me keep them in until the sheriff got there .We just put a 16 inch square piece of fence over the hole. the deputy cked there collar and called the owners to my house to get there dog and pay my bill including a brand new pen as they had destroyed a small spot . they each were charged $150.00 and were informed that I did have the right to destroy there animal the next time I caught it on my place . 2 of em thru a fit the other guy just handed me 100 and took his dog out of the pin and shot it as he said (he could have understood it if it would have been hungry but it just killed for the fun of it ) we are now good friends