View Full Version : How Many Not Leo Members Own A Bulletproof Vest??
February 14, 2006, 04:19 PM
Just curious to see how many of my fellow TFL membere own a bulletproof vest that ARE NOT LEO's
February 14, 2006, 04:20 PM
And what is your reasoning for owning one i.e. everyday wear, personal/home defense just whatever
February 14, 2006, 04:33 PM
I own one by Second Chance. I bought it in 1990 to supplement my load out for a PST assignment in Berlin. I still have it. Thanks to my doc and my wife, it fits again!
February 14, 2006, 04:43 PM
intresting, Thanks for the reply.
February 14, 2006, 04:45 PM
I bought a level IIA American Body Armor and Equipment vest few years ago because I was bored. I have never worn it other than to -CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED- off my wife.
I think I paid about $100 for it. It's probably about 50 years old
I'm thinking about shooting it to see if it works
February 14, 2006, 04:48 PM
Are you going to be in it when you shoot it???
If that's the case all i have to say is be careful
February 14, 2006, 04:52 PM
Are you going to be in it when you shoot it???
Oh hell no.
When I first got it I had my son punch me in the chest.
With the trauma plate smacking into my chest it hurt worse than if he had hit me with no vest.
There was a story posted either here or THR about a father and son Darwin Award team .
The father had his son forcefully stab him with a knife to see if the vest would stop a blade.
February 14, 2006, 04:55 PM
All i have to say to that one is WOW!!!
February 14, 2006, 05:08 PM
Come on guys don't be skurred.
February 14, 2006, 05:10 PM
OOOOHHH! Lookie there i'm a senior member now!
How about that!!
February 14, 2006, 05:34 PM
Yes, I have one. :)
February 14, 2006, 05:42 PM
February 14, 2006, 06:01 PM
Bought it at a gun show, and I bought it cuz it matched my shoes!! Heck if I could buy, or afford, an m198 howitzer I would!!
February 14, 2006, 06:23 PM
I have Army-issued Interceptor body armor with the ceramic plates, and I'm not a LEO. Does that count? ;)
February 14, 2006, 06:30 PM
Former LEO with one checking in. I just hold on to it for SHTF purposes. It's about 10 years old, but wasn't worn much. It should still be OK, since it's hanging in a climate-controlled closet and never sees the outside world. It may not be perfect, but it would be better than nothing.
February 14, 2006, 07:05 PM
Why for? Well, SHTF is one reason I suppose. Another is because I'd rather be better prepared than the next guy. Oh, here's a good one - they are supposedly trying to ban sales to civilians, so get one while you can - and I did. :)
February 14, 2006, 08:01 PM
I have a ProMax Level II. It also has a rifle plate in it rated to stop a .308.
I have been doing armed security type jobs and have worn it now and then especially when I was guarding ATM techs.
I just wish I had spent a couple more hundred dollars and bought the lighter weight model as the one I have now is a bit uncomfortable and really restricts your movement.
February 14, 2006, 08:05 PM
I have one.
It is a point blank level 2.
It has a 1in cut on the back.
I paid $40 for it.
February 14, 2006, 09:45 PM
Dang now i want one!
February 14, 2006, 10:13 PM
I live in NYS and i'm pretty sure it's illegal for non LEO/military to have any of that here. So no, i dont have one :)
February 14, 2006, 11:02 PM
What I'm seeing here is that not many people have them. I think they are an invaluable asset for home defense and I plan on getting one ASAP.
February 14, 2006, 11:21 PM
Wouldn't be a bad idea for people that spend a lot of time at the range; RSOs and whatnot. Just one more thing to make you a little more "stupid-resistant".
February 14, 2006, 11:27 PM
Yep my buddy kinda got me one from his coast guard days;)
February 14, 2006, 11:41 PM
In some jurisdictions posession of body armor is a major serious felony. So, in effect you may be asking some of the members here to admit to a criminal act.
Shame, shame, shame on you.
For the record, NO I DO NOT have any sort of body armor.
February 15, 2006, 12:12 AM
I'm an LEO, but either way I have a spare vest in my trunk for SHTF scenarios... Also I feel like there MAY be a situation where someone other than me may need one...
February 15, 2006, 01:13 AM
Hmmm, anyone know where I can get one in Houston on the cheap(ish)?
February 15, 2006, 09:51 AM
What is SHTF????
February 15, 2006, 09:52 AM
you can get them on ebay
February 15, 2006, 09:54 AM
February 15, 2006, 11:29 AM
I have one, PACA level III. I bought it two years ago in prep for SWA trip that never happened. Kept it afterwards cause it doesn't cost anything to feed.
Came in handy in New Orleans when I spent two weeks down there helping family after Katrina.
I'm in the "better to have and not need" club now!:D
February 15, 2006, 11:32 AM
What is SHFT anybody???
February 15, 2006, 11:40 AM
Feces coming in contact with revolving blades of an air moving device:D
February 15, 2006, 11:48 AM
February 15, 2006, 11:59 AM
Work (non-leo), shtf, travel to shady parts of town, etc.
My cousin knows a guy who stole one from a cop car years back...
February 15, 2006, 11:59 AM
I have a set of interceptor with the lvl IV plates and a tactical tailor plate carrier with lvl IV plates and some other random armor like a MICH helmet. I keep it for SHTF of for playing dress-up at the range.
February 15, 2006, 12:11 PM
I used to have one. Bought it because it was good armor and cheap. Traded it to a LEO for something I needed more.
February 15, 2006, 12:24 PM
I have a paraclete level II vest that I can use for concealment and it fits in my CIRAS very well. I also have an old PASGT flak jacket. I have never worn either out in public. I just wanted some armor I am not sure why
February 15, 2006, 12:52 PM
I've thought about getting one after being shot at the range (read my other post on this). Others replied that they wear theirs to the range to prevent similar instances.
February 15, 2006, 01:29 PM
What is SHTF anybody???
S**T Hits The Fan
Common Acronyms/Terms (http://www.thefiringline.com/library/acro/acron.html) This will be your best friend in the future.
February 15, 2006, 02:37 PM
2 of 'em actually
February 15, 2006, 02:47 PM
I have one, wear when working as an RO or teaching newbies, also when taking training classes. It sits by the bed next to the shotgun so it can be thrown on the bed to keep rounds from coming through the mattress, or given to the wife. It gets used as a dry-fire backstop also. There really is a lot of uses for a vest that every gun owner could use.
February 15, 2006, 03:17 PM
Most of the state laws on armor that I am familiar with relate to convicted felons possessing armor. Though, with the rush to pass more laws rather than enforcing the ones we have, it would not surprise me that some states have banned mere possession.
Erick, in California, "mere posession" is enough to get you a VERY long vacation if you get caught. Has been that way for about a decade.
Glenn E. Meyer
February 15, 2006, 04:12 PM
I saw this on another site:
Hunting jackets - Chaney jokes are just coincidence.
February 15, 2006, 04:52 PM
anyone know where I can get one
Check your local pawn shops.
Ask the owner.
The guy I got it from did not have it out front.
Anyone know the proper way to reinforce kevlar?
I think plating is suppost to be on the outside over the kevlar.
What would work, other than steel plates?
I have read about people using the woven steel from tires to make body armor.
Do you think that this would work well?
February 15, 2006, 06:23 PM
February 15, 2006, 06:27 PM
Owning a full-auto weapon (or short-barreled weapon, or suppressed weapon, etc), for many of us, is a major felonious act. We still talk about it, because it IS legal for some to own. The point is to KNOW if it's legal for you to own or not. If it's NOT legal, you can read and weep. If it IS legal, then it's OK for the REST of us to talk about. :rolleyes:
February 15, 2006, 06:38 PM
I never knew the made a " Bullet proof " vest? :confused: :D
February 15, 2006, 09:35 PM
I have a flack vest. I'm not sure why. surplus stores won't give anything for them, so its in the basement.
February 15, 2006, 10:21 PM
Don't have any soft body armor yet, but plan to get one. Use is for Katrina-New-Orleans-type situations, or possibly my last-ditch shootout with the gummint if things get reaaaaaaally bad. :( Or there could be overlap on those 2. [Don't type either of the two well-known acronyms for that or the thread may get closed. :) ]
February 15, 2006, 10:34 PM
I've always been a little embarrassed to have one.
I thought it was the last straw that made me a certifiable gun nut
Maybe I was wrong
February 16, 2006, 01:37 AM
i got one, came with the beretta. cant imagine ever needing it though
February 16, 2006, 08:44 AM
I never knew the made a " Bullet proof " vest?
Yep, they sure do...
They are on the rack right next to the "silencers".
February 16, 2006, 12:39 PM
Go a couple, my 1st one was a secondchance IIa bought it back in 91, wore it when I was station oversease, (hi threat), then got another with ceramic plate before going to S/Arabia in 98, my unit wont even issue one:mad: , each on his own, we where on TC Delta then.
February 17, 2006, 12:24 PM
I have a body armor fragmentation protective vest.
I am am glad that this question was asked. Several years ago my dad got this vest. I always thought that it was a bulletproof vest until just now. I found a booklet in the vest that says, "This vest does not protect you against small arms fire." :(
February 18, 2006, 10:06 PM
:rolleyes: I own seven one for each day of the week.:rolleyes:
February 22, 2006, 03:22 PM
I have an old PASGT and a MOLLE Plate Carrier but no plates, I've been meaning to get those.
I'm an MP in the Ohio Military Reserve, so I have purchase my own uniforms, gear etc...But there's legislation going through that should change that.
February 24, 2006, 04:57 PM
I understand that it may be illegal in some jurisdicitons to wear body armor while armed, which is ridiculous, but for mere possession to be illegal strikes me as sheer arrogance on the part of authority. They apparently want to retain the ability to shoot you!
Be that as it may, one gun writer (Ayoob, I believe) recommended wearing body armor at the range and that doesn't sound like a bad idea.
Personally, I don't own any and never have.
February 24, 2006, 05:32 PM
I have several. I think a level IIA vest in your roll out kit is an excellenct idea.
February 24, 2006, 05:40 PM
Well, my dad has one, and I almost bought one, but didnt have quite enough money at the time.
February 24, 2006, 08:35 PM
To tell the truth, chain mail is all I need if zombies get that close.
Zombies can't shoot, right?
February 24, 2006, 09:22 PM
I have an old ballistic vest. Second Chance, I think. Bought it on ebay.
Why do I have it? That's what happens when I'm on ebay late at night.
It's kinda like my boat motor. I have a 10hp evinrude that I have no idea what to do with. That's another thing that happened when I was on Ebay late at night. Kinda useless without a boat.
I need to go on there late at night and buy a holster for a gun I don't own. It'll go nice with the brass I've saved up to load for the 45 LC I don't own.
February 25, 2006, 12:00 AM
I have a second chance IIIa vest , its on a hanger between the wall and head board of my bed.
i got it for home defense and then had the idea of use it during deer season under my Cammie's when hunting state land...lots of hunters.:o
Ive never used it for either.
February 25, 2006, 01:24 PM
wayneinFL, pretty funny.
I believe most states have a law, which adds penalties for wearing a vest during the commission of a crime.
I don't have one, but thought about getting one for that day I win the Powerball and have to go cash that ticket.
I would like to have one for pistols rounds. Something lightweight and comfortable (as can be). What should I expect to pay for something like this in new or like new condition? Don't know when or where I would wear it, but hey I have a tactical vest I can wear over it.
Also, who has a gas mask?
I thought about buying one of these too. Who knows why.
February 26, 2006, 03:46 PM
I own several including a level III: all with ballistic plates rated to 308. I often perform forensic evaluations (including amytal interviews) on people (e.g. insurance fraud defendents) who would tear off your testicles and make your wife eat them, if you're not careful; thus, I am armed and protected at all times while working.
Soon, civilians will not be able to get ballistic vests at all (I had to show all kinds of credentials, that most of you don't come any where close to possessing, to get mine), as it does not matter if you die; only the cops and soldiers' lives matter to the system that is evolving before your very eyes; bet you didn't really know that or haven't thought about it.
Get one while you can; if you can. Level II at least, preferably level III with a plate for the front and back.
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