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Doug.38PR
January 18, 2006, 07:10 PM
Just curious. OOUCH was that mesquito bite? Nope, just a .22:D

willsnipe
January 18, 2006, 07:39 PM
Actually, YES! When dressed in a manner making concealment an issue, I've got a High Standard O/U that's thin and small. My theory has always been that the best self defense handgun is the one you have with you. I lean towards 15 pound rifles with 'bout a yard of barrel on 'em, but sometimes you have to make compromises!;)

Sir William
January 18, 2006, 08:54 PM
Yes. Walther P22c. CCI/Speer Velocitor JHPs. The only "iffy" part is the rear sight. The leather is a Don Hume paddle for a Glock 36 that fits well.

Ronny
January 18, 2006, 09:33 PM
Are you thinking about carrying your P22, Sir William? :rolleyes:

grimjaw
January 18, 2006, 09:34 PM
I used to carry a Beretta 21A in .22LR, but not now. There are larger caliber guns that are smaller than the 21A, so I'm considering those at BUG's.

jmm

Optical Serenity
January 18, 2006, 09:37 PM
Back a long time ago, I used to carry an Iver Johnson .22LR pistol in an ankle holster. Gosh, what was I thinking? :confused:

Now I use a Glock 27 in an ankle holster in its place! :)

Sir William
January 18, 2006, 10:18 PM
Yes, I am actually using my P22c as a CCW. I am considering authoring a piece on a budget 22 CCW/HD pistol. The Walther P22c military model in OD/black with 3.4" barrel is the subject. I am trying to figure out WHAT to try for the rail. E2D Defender, laser or the red dot?

Dwight55
January 18, 2006, 10:23 PM
Until last Christmas, . . . my son's 4 in Browning Buckmark was my backup when the .45 couldn't go with me.

It holds 10, . . . with a spare magazine in an off pocket, . . . loaded with standard velocity solid points, . . . would never feel undergunned with it.

I know what it will do in my hands and there ain't no bg out there that wants to find out the hard way.

Yes, . . . given the choice, . . . my .45 ACP is #1, . . . Bersa Thunder .380 is now second choice (Christmas present :D ;) :D ), . . . and the Buckmark is now 3rd choice, . . . but it is a good choice.

May God bless,
Dwight

Lawyer Daggit
January 19, 2006, 12:51 AM
I have often thought that if you are practicing with the .22 a lot a quick three shots from a .22LR into the centre of mass or head will stop a lot of arguments.

kymasabe
January 19, 2006, 07:39 AM
Yea, I was carrying a Kel-Tec P3AT which spent more time traveling for repair than in my pocket. So, when it wasn't around, I'd carry my little Taurus PT-22, .22LR, 8+1 of CCI Velocitors. Was a reliable little gun and fun to shoot, was just twice as fat and twice as heavy as the Kel-Tec. Had simple sights but was very accurate. Tip-up barrel made it easy for my wife to use. Was cheap too. I bought the dual-tone blue/nickle with Rosewood grips for $200. Cool little gun.

Glenn E. Meyer
January 19, 2006, 11:50 AM
I've a NAA Mini that I use as a BUG.

Northslope Nimrod
January 19, 2006, 11:59 AM
I used to carry a PT-22 myself. I still wish I had a small .22 for hiking. I recommend carrying a .22 if you have nothing else.....but one should work toward buying a larger caliber for CCW. I like them for hiking.....lots of light weight ammo shoot shoot for fun and you are protected (somewhat) from Bad guys or mountain lions with sensitive ears.

Derius_T
January 19, 2006, 12:00 PM
Yes, I have carried the .22 as a BUG, or when nothing else was readily available. I have hunted with one since I was a itty bitty tot, and I am very familiar with thier accuracy.

281 Quad Cam
January 19, 2006, 01:27 PM
I run 9mm everywhere.... But I have carried my Taurus PT-22 when, for instance, going to a friends to work on a car, or some other low risk, nasty dirty oily situation. It has a tip up barrel, magazine disconnect, manual safety, and a ludicrously long and heavy trigger. Just dump it in some cargo pants pocket and go.

Chris Phelps
January 19, 2006, 01:50 PM
I have every intention of carrying the Walther P22 after I buy it. Just a theory, but 10 shots COM in 2-3 seconds is just as good as 1-2 shots with a 9mm. I have always been fond of 22's anyway, though.

urbanassault
January 19, 2006, 02:07 PM
My .22 will easily shoot through a truck door and tighter/quicker patterns are usually easier to achieve with a .22, what more do you need? Home protection is another thing but with 2-30rd and 1-50rd magazines if it came down to it I would feel totally comfortable holding the ruger (not my first choice though) it quickley turns a 3/4ton chevy p-up door to swiss cheese!:D

BlueTrain
January 19, 2006, 02:51 PM
Rex Applegate claimed he carried a .22 automatic for a while (probably a Hi-Standard or Colt) on the same theory that he could more easily make hits. He also carried a S&W hammerless pocket revolver (a .38 S&W breaktop) in a unique holster of his own design. He actually had to use it once and it didn't perform up to his expectations, though he managed. It was after that that he encouraged S&W to produce the original Centennial in .38 Special.

Both my father, now deceased, and my father-in-law managed to get by with nothing more than a .22 handgun for anything they needed to shoot, mostly snakes in the case of my father.

Plated
January 19, 2006, 03:33 PM
I have been carrying a Ruger SP101 for years, but have been considering a move to the walther P22. Even if I decide not to use it for CC....what a cool gun to target shoot with :D

281 Quad Cam
January 19, 2006, 03:37 PM
I don't know if multiple .22 hits are better one 9mm hit, or any combination of comparisons as such.

But I DO know, that a .22 is better than absolutely no firearm, which is what I would carry if the Taurus did not fill that role.

I've never made the argument that the .22 is superior to anything else, except for bare hands. If it doesn't fire, its no worse than starting with bare hands. If it jams, its no worse than bare hands. If the rounds fail to stop the assailant, again, no worse than bare hands. I went the first 21 years of my life without carrying guns, and sometimes still do. (and live to tell.) So if I'm already wearing something condusive to throwing a .22 in, why not?

PLATED,
If you decide that you are not going to carry it, do consider a Ruger MK or Browning Buckmark for target shooting, as they are very accurate, with good triggers, and great reliability reputations. The Walther isn't bad but it does get alot of negative reviews, and lemons get out regularly.

Plated
January 19, 2006, 04:03 PM
If you decide that you are not going to carry it, do consider a Ruger MK or Browning Buckmark for target shooting, as they are very accurate, with good triggers, and great reliability reputations. The Walther isn't bad but it does get alot of negative reviews, and lemons get out regularly.

Thanks for that info, I guess I need to read some review on them. As for both of the recomendations... I currently own a Ruger MKII, and have shot my father's Browning buckmark on many outings. I love both of those pistols for targets:p

**publically admits to being a rimfire junkie**

I must admit that the Walther appeals to me from the look and feel side of things (only) so far. I have held them at a local shop and gun show so far(no range time). For the price point....it will eventually make its way into my inventory I am sure. Maybe I won't get a lemon, and I will not be expecting the accuracy of the above mentioned firearms. If it performs well, and proves itself reliable....I could see myself using it as a CCW on light dress summer outings.

payne
January 19, 2006, 08:23 PM
Wife to be carries the P22 with CCI Stingers in it when she actually carries.

Mr. Chitlin
January 20, 2006, 08:09 PM
Up until I picked up my P3AT a year ago, I carried a Taurus PT22 nickel plated many a mile. I preferred the Glock 27, but there were times when it just did not fit the clothing I was wearing at the time.

LICCW
January 20, 2006, 09:34 PM
I sometimes carry my S&W 317. 8 rounds of CCI Stingers. 10oz. Light as a feather. Like your not carrying at all--but you are.;)

Ronny
January 20, 2006, 09:52 PM
After much reading and several trips to the shop to fondle it with my own hands, I may be picking up a Walther P22 for myself after all.

I love my .45, but I feel like I'm chucking quarters at paper when I take it to the range for "plinking".

stevensc
January 21, 2006, 12:04 AM
On occasion I've carried a Beretta 21A .22cal. with CCI Stingers. I never had to use it so I can't say how effective, or inefective, it may be. I know it is quite accurate and easy to conceal.
Normally I will carry my S&W 642.
Stingers , doesn't sound like a very effective round does it? Not that I would like to be hit by one!
Steve

ditty22
January 21, 2006, 01:22 PM
i cant even come to think a person in the right mind would carry a .22 for CCW and on top of that a p22 of all guns. Id rather throw a punch that carry that pistol.

kymasabe
January 21, 2006, 05:52 PM
There are some really effective .22LR rounds....Stinger are good, CCI Velocitors are hot, and I hear QuickShocks are awesome little rounds.

the debate over .22 being too little to carry will go on forever but one things for sure, I wouldn't want one pointed at MY head...it gets my respect.

My P3AT was a bigger round but all I could hit was COM at 10 yards or less. With my Taurus PT-22, I had one extra round and it was so accurate, I could AIM if I had to and KNEW I could hit it. Never felt under-gunned

LICCW
January 21, 2006, 07:32 PM
ditty22: You volunteering to get popped with one to see if its worse than getting punched?

gddyup
January 21, 2006, 07:59 PM
I had this discussion last night at the firehouse...

I don't care what you carry.. It's all about placement. Put the bullets where they'll do the most damage and you've put yourself in an advantagous position regardless of caliber.

LICCW
January 21, 2006, 09:55 PM
gddyup: +1

ditty22
January 21, 2006, 10:17 PM
Shot placement is key forsure ,but the p22 was junk Imo:D

Plated
January 21, 2006, 10:37 PM
Shot placement is key forsure ,but the p22 was junk Imo

What was your exp. with it? malfuntion often, poor accuracy??

Guess I should go and research it more:D I still want to give one a try.

Mizzle187
January 22, 2006, 12:29 AM
Early P22's had problems and the cause was the magazines. The problem was easily fixed by Walther. I own a P22 with over 1000 round through it with not one problem. Ive heard though that you have to find the right ammo for them. I guess I was lucky and picked right the first time! Remington Thunderbolts. I would not hesitate to buy another one even a used one. I would go ahead and buy some new mags for it to make sure you had the new ones if you couldnt spot old ones. Would I carry mine? Only if I had to but I have alot of other choices. They are fun as hell to shoot!

joneb
January 22, 2006, 03:18 AM
I have a Iver Johnson .22 with a cracked frame it's been that way for some time it was picky about what it ate, only rem. yellow jackets well it was and is a piece of doo. but I like the .22lr with the proper gun it is capable. I have a S&W 422 /4" it is reliable and fairly accurate. well better than fairly. I got it for back packing and as a plinker. I am quite pleased. for self defence I'd go for a wheel gun .22lr can be less reliable than center fire.

cal
January 22, 2006, 08:19 AM
Justification for S/D 22.
One in the eye or ear or maybe two will do.
IF I can get the magic distance tween me and it,
I get on my donkey and git!

urbanassault
January 23, 2006, 09:26 AM
After this weekend Im not sure I would choose to carry a .22, there was a lady in the paper that got shot 11 times and lived anywhere from the mid torso to her thigh and a bunch in her hip. Also I just picked up a Bersa Thunder .380 and that is a cool little gun!!

Derius_T
January 23, 2006, 11:40 AM
I personally would not carry a .22 as my primary self defense weapon if I was able to carry something else. That being said, I have, like I said carried one as a backup. They are very accurate, and there is no question that they will put a human down. Its all about shot placement.

My thinking though is that the average person, in a life threatening situation, will be suprised and/or too nervous to take the cool shots necessary to neutralize a situation with a .22. Something with a little more 'umph' to it, and it isn't as critical WHERE you hit them, just THAT you hit them. :D

joneb
January 24, 2006, 03:33 AM
if some one were to ask me what round has killed more living things than any other I would guess the .22lr . it all comes down to were the bullet goes.

Striker
January 24, 2006, 07:44 AM
.22 PPK/s was my primary carry gun in several countries in Europe and the Asian sub-continent where "military caliber" handguns were prohibited. Never felt particulary undergunned, as it was all I was allowed!

atlctyslkr
March 16, 2006, 01:09 PM
Carry a .22 Derringer when I can't easily conceal anything else. Fits in a case for glasses and since the case is metal it gets through metal dectectors without throwing up any fuss. I just take it out and declare it with my pocket change. Wouldn't try this at an airport but the cheap ones at baseball games and stuff don't pick it up. It's better than nothing! Could buy me some time to retreat. Still sounds like a gunshot and most people can't "name that round" by sound alone.

fisherman66
March 16, 2006, 01:44 PM
My concern about carrying a 22lr is not the ballistics, but the reliablility of ignition. That said, I'd have no problem with carrying a 22lr revolver (it's the auto-loader that worries me.)

threegun
March 17, 2006, 12:22 PM
I would never carry a 22lr as a primary or backup. There are several 32/380's that are the same size and have much better stopping power.

I own a walther p-22 and it also functions flawlessly and shoots fairly accurately.

mica
March 17, 2006, 09:06 PM
I open carried my P22 tonight :) , don't have a holster for my Glock 17 and wanted to test the 'open carry' waters....I've only had it a week and it's been reliable(400 rounds) and a fun little gun to shoot. I can see myself carrying it concealed occassionally.

PATH
March 17, 2006, 09:23 PM
I have never carried a .22LR as a ccw. Lowest I'll go is a .32. Just my comfort level is all!

Anthony2
March 17, 2006, 09:44 PM
As illogical as this may sound for certain situations, I am going to carry my Beretta 6" Neo w/ CCI stingers...There are just some cases where my S.A. XD-9 is too cumbersome to conceal and still fit comfortably. Say what you will that is my intention.:)

+1 to not wanting to be hit with a stinger.

czc3513
March 17, 2006, 11:26 PM
beretta 21 22lr

threegun
March 18, 2006, 08:05 AM
Anthony, CCI stingers work great.................................on rabbits,squirels,and other small game. If you want to handicap yourself to each his own. There are guns out their that are small and potent. I just bought my son a Kahr CM-9. Tiny little thing for a 9mm. Fits his 9year old hands perfectly.