View Full Version : "Waist Pack" carry recommendation?
October 23, 2005, 06:27 PM
Looking for "fanny pack" style carry system.
Normally, I hate these things, but for all around use, I kind of am getting interested in one of these.
I'm looking around for a waist pack like this (or avendor/maker) that has fanny-packs that don't attract attention or look as "civilian" as possible.
Most of the products I've seen are all "SWAT-black Tactical Fanny Packs" with velcro and 2"-webbing, etc. :rolleyes:
Any recommendations? :confused:
October 23, 2005, 09:11 PM
The bigger the gun the harder to conceal no matter how you do it. Carrying a particularly large or heavy gun in a fanny pack or similar setup can also be a stress on your back. If you carry a smaller mid-sized to compact gun (maximum 7" length x 5" height, and thinner is better but not critical) you might want to take a look at some of the carry "pouches" that look a lot like a camera case or soft PDA holster. These usually go onto your belt rather than having their own belt and allow you to carry in plain sight in what is essentially a closed holster right on your hip. One of the companies that makes EMT (Emergency Medical Technician) hip packs for basic things an EMT might need and they modified one and made it into a concealment holster. So it is the same pouch with two totally different applications. I do not work for them but I like their product. They are called Hawkepak. Another option is to severely modify a real camera bag but of course the most critical element is the gun be securely in the holster pouch and the holster pouch be securely on you. I would not use those cheesey little belt loops that come on most similar pouches not marketed as for carrying a firearm.
Back to fanny packs - the bigger the fanny pack the more awkward and uncomfortable it is to carry, plus you would obviously have a large fanny pack for a larger gun making things even worse. Also, though where I live it is quite common for all sorts of folks to wear fanny packs, carrying and non-carrying alike, it still can look a little odd when someone is wearing a particularly extra large one. Doesn't mean they are carrying but it does tend to catch my eye faster when I see a fanny pack that is larger than my grandma's purse strapped around somebody's waist. But that is the great thing about an armed society isn't it? I bet the crooks don't like playing the guessing game either - maybe they just have a lot of crap to carry. I rarely carry in a fanny pack anymore but I strongly preferred the zippered ones rather than velcro to get to the gun (quiter and actually for me faster). Get the smallest you can get the gun into without stretching it in such a way that it looks like there is something trying too break out. How far out it sticks is a huge factor in being noticed so try and use a thinner gun and do not put other stuff in the other pockets. That is bad form anyway. I used to do that and went to get my wallet one day and accidentally pulled the wrong zipper and just got lucky that no one saw and freaked out at the store as the butt of my gun got exposed for a second.
Personally I use the belt pouch (EMT style) at 3:00 (maybe 2:47) with a PT111 and I forget it is there but if I need to get in it I can do that extremely fast. I can actually squeeze a Sig 229 into it but much prefer the smaller, lighter PT111 and there is tons of room to spare then so the pouch, which is medium sized at 5.'"x7.25", looks half empty with a smaller gun in it. Just like fanny packs, avoid the bigger belt pouches as well. Carrying anything bigger than the 5x7 standard, even slightly bigger than that, is IMO too big to comfortably, or even really inconspicuously, carry in any 'plain sight' manner. And a 5x7 is even pushing the absolute maximum at that, at least for me it is.
October 23, 2005, 09:44 PM
I don't think you mentioned what you were carrying. I'm not an advocate of the 38 in any shape form or fashion, but I carry a little bitty Smith model 640 that sits right on top of my pecker in a nice soft inside the pants sleeve. I'll even strap on a belt under my swim trunks and you can't see it. It's got no hammer and I can have it out faster than who flung the chunk. I used to carry a fanny a lot, but being a white boy down on the border every body knows that a fanny pack is a holster. One kid saw my fanny pack one day in HEB and said, "look mama, he's got a gun just like daddy's".
October 24, 2005, 01:09 AM
If you want a fanny pack you cant go wrong with a tommy pack. They come in lots of different colors and sizes so you can fit just about anything. What I really like about them is that to access my weapon I have to grab a large release buckle that in turn pulls two quiet zippers. This way theres no way to accidentally flash your weapon. There are a couple of other pockets for extra stuff. You might be surprised to find out just how useful those extra pockets are.
Im not overly fond of fanny packs for regular carry. I look like a dweeb when I use them and feel like I should be wearing black socks with sandals. Unfortunately, all too often I find that without a fanny pack Id go off without my gun. Tommy's gun packs are convienent, safe and if youre real concerned about someone spotting you try the green one.
October 24, 2005, 05:06 AM
Thanks guys...lots of good advice.
I'm partial to wheelguns, smaller frame .357, but I'm currently pondering a smaller frame semi-auto (my SIG 226 is just too bulky for carry).
The TommyPak looks good! I might have to get me one of those, even if not for EVERY DAY carry, but good for hot weather days. ;)
October 28, 2005, 06:47 PM
I like my Coronado Leather (http://www.coronadoleather.com/view.aspx?i=96&c=3&p=0) stealth pac.
November 5, 2005, 08:31 PM
A Bagmaster belt pistol pack might suffice, too.
Belt Pistol Pack link (http://home.comcast.net/~ccwinstructor/belt_pistol_packs.htm)
November 7, 2005, 08:06 AM
I was at a nightclub in Illinois, where CCW is not allowed, and this girl was wearing a regular looking and sized fanny pack. People wearing fanny packs in Illinois is not rare, but in the club, she was the only person wearing one. We started talking and I found out that she was actually a police officer. She even showed me her badge.
It is wasn't until then that I took more notice in the fanny pack she was wearing and figured out she was carrying a compact-sized gun inside the fanny pack.
The clothing she was wearing was normal civilian clothes that any girl would wear at a nightclub and it would been hard for her to conceal a gun under a tight fitting shirt and pants and the fanny pack was her best option.
Personally, I don't like carrying in fanny packs and if at all possible, I would try to dress in a way where I could wear the weapon under my clothing without it buldging out and in some type of holster where I could quickly draw it from, but I suppose at times that cannpt be done and a fanny pack is a good option. I guess having a weapon that is a tad bit slower to get at is better than no weapon at all.
November 7, 2005, 01:26 PM
The Wilderness safepacker, best of both worlds
November 7, 2005, 02:53 PM
Before I retired, I always carried my Day Planner. A nice leather, zip up binder. Only difference was the paper and tabs were removed and my S&W M469 was secured inside with a velcro strap. Was with me in the office, the restaurant, the car, and nobody was the wiser. For business notes and schedules I used my PDA.
I also have a small camera bag that works great.
You be real careful you don't go off "Half-Cocked" with that 640 where you carry it! http://bestsmileys.com/excited/4.gif
November 7, 2005, 05:33 PM
I have grown to like the Bagmaster Belt Pistol pack which is not the traditional fanny pack shape although it fastens to the belt. The pack comes in a variety of sizes and colors so that your only choice is not just tactical black.
Although they come in a variety of sizes I have pictured the XL model which I use although I choose to carry a smaller gun (S&W Mod. 60 with 3" barrel). By carrying the smaller gun in the larger pack I have room left over for other stuff such as a PDA, wallet, pens & pencils, extra speed loaders,etc. that I use all the time but still keep my carry piece well concealed.
As a convenient variation I have affixed 3" split rings to the belt loops on the back of the pack and then snapped an over the shoulder strap to the split rings so that the pack can be worn and carried in that mode as well. As a matter of personal policy I never, never take it off when I wear it over the shoulder. This works well for me.
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