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coolridelude
August 28, 2005, 12:16 PM
i know most people will say don't use a 410 for HD but my brother has a weak shoulder and my mom has carpoltunnel. so it is down to a 410. it is either a 410 or nothing.

i have a .22 and a 9mm. (soon a sks) but they are in my room. and she wants one in here room and my brothers. ((love mom). so she will be buying them. and one for me. it is going to be a snake charmer 410 what ammo should i use. i know there is buckshot. i have seen.410 bore2 1/2 000 buck 3 pellets and .410 bore 2 1/2 00 buck 5 pellets. and from what i have read there is slugs.
wallyworld doesn't carry them.

what brand should i get?

has anybody tried them?

will the 3in fit?

a good website to buy them?

the choke is fixed full. can i even use a slug?

its also good for dove. so it is a plus

my brother's room is near the back door. so it will be the first defense to get to my room.

i believe that if he even takes ashot the badguys will be scared and it will be enough time to get to my room.

'75Scout
August 28, 2005, 08:30 PM
Could a 20 or 28 guage with 2 3/4 00 buckshot shells work? Maybe your brother could learn to should with his weak side. If you use a .410 try a slug. Or maybe a 9mm carbine like Kel-Tec or Hi-Point, recoil same or less and JHP ammo is probably better than any .410 buckshot or slug.

P.S. Buckshot has very little power individually, it's the sheer number of pellets that impact a person that makes it so devistating. And a .410 with OO buckshot will have very few pellets.

coolridelude
August 28, 2005, 10:13 PM
what is the recoil on the 20 or 28. i thought they were the size of the barrel.

so there is a shotgun20,28?

does it kick like the 12g. let me know

almark
August 28, 2005, 11:58 PM
In my experience, a lightweight 20 ga. (NEF youth model for me) kicks about as much as a 12 ga. Rem 870 with similar loads. I can't imagine a .410 kicking as much as a 20, but I have never shot a .410 so I could be wrong. I'm not certain I'd go with a single shot (as I believe the snake charmer is) of any kind for HD, but a single shot .410 (in my opinion) would be a particularly poor choice. I'd second a pistol caliber carbine of some sort. However, if the snake charmer is what you've already got, or you decide to choose it anyway for some reason (and I'm sure there are perfectly valid reasons to) then American Derringer sells .410 buckshot for use in their .410/.45 LC derringers. $6.50 for a 5-round package. http://www.amderringer.com/safe.html There is some speculation as to whether American Derringer is still in business or not, and I cannot say one way or the other, but you could always drop them a line and see if they respond. Good luck! :)

Edit: For about $20 extra (at wally-world) you could get the New England Firearms Survivor model. Available in straight shotgun configuration with modified choke or in .410/.45 LC with rifled barrel and screw-in choke for use with shotshells. Just a thought.

jroth
August 29, 2005, 08:54 PM
instead of a single shot .410, try a M1 carbine using the 110 gr HP's.

Polish the feedramp of the carbine and there will never be a stutter feeding the HP's. It light with low-recoil. You can put a surplus butt-stock pouch on
it and have two 15 round magazine at the ready!!!

For the .410, us the heaviest bird shot ( #4) or try the cowboy .45LC loads.

Maybe a auto-loading 20 gauge???

'75Scout
August 29, 2005, 09:07 PM
The 20 guage shotguns will probably still have a pretty significant recoil, but autoloaders have less recoil than pumps. The Remington 870's and 11-87's but come in 12 and 20 guage. A .410 will have notibly less recoil. However, the .410 shells are pretty darn expensive The M1 carbine is a good idea, it is also a pistol caliber.

almark
August 29, 2005, 11:46 PM
The M1 carbine would be a good choice, and I have a soft spot for the carbines myself, but price may be a consideration. I thought they retailed for around $500... the shotguns are ~ $130-250. Don't mean to threadjack, but this may be relevant... anyone seen M1 carbines go for cheaper?