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July 17, 2005, 10:43 PM
On another forum, there is a guy saying he has a colt revolver that he has fired 53 rounds through it and his gunsmith says the standing lugs of the barrel are shot. He said that the smith found metal filings inside the frame after he took it to him to check on minor work he did on it himself. I have never heard of the standing lug in a colt barrel. Anyone have any info for me on this? Just curious.
July 18, 2005, 01:20 AM
Perhaps he's talking about the barrel underlug where the ejector rod fits under the barrel. If there are metal filings there it could be from a misfitted crane or cylinder. Sounds bad, whatever it is! :(
July 18, 2005, 02:49 AM
I asked him to better explain what the smith was telling him. He said he was going to send it back to Colt for their warranty work to fix it. I was having a hard time figuring out what he was talking about myself. He said the smith told him this is what happens when a colt has a few thousand rounds through it. He didn't change his mind when the guy told him it only had 53 rounds through it.
July 18, 2005, 03:09 PM
This guy was hard to follow with his spelling and the way he spoke. He has a Defender 90 that he tinkerd with and put in a longer link. This caused the gun the shave off the top of the barrel lugs which is where the filings came from. He says he is going to send it them for warranty work. I told him he might get the bill for this one since it was his fooling around with the link of a brand new gun that created the spoilage. We'll see what they tell him.
July 19, 2005, 04:16 AM
Ahhhh....A semi-auto, I should have known. He put in a longer link? I wonder for what purpose? Yes, I'm sure it probably chewed the barrel and slide lugs off because it was misaligned. He's gonna pay through the nose for that! :eek:
July 19, 2005, 11:14 AM
The answer to the "Pistolsmiths Prayer". Gosh! We love these people!
July 19, 2005, 11:46 AM
Doesn't everybody buy a new gun and immediately replace all the parts with after market stuff just to keep the guys on sites like this happy? What would we do without all kinds of advice to change this or change that, or put in this spring or that sear or the other hammer? Where would the after-market sellers (I almost said junk peddlers) be if people just shot their guns as they came from the factory?
July 19, 2005, 12:04 PM
replacing hammers on 1911's is fine in my book.
what possible purpose could replacing the link serve?
July 19, 2005, 01:44 PM
The longer link can solve a lockup problem. Say you only have .020 lockup. If you plan to shoot this gun for thousands of rounds, this simply isn't enough. The cure can be as simply as adding a longer link which pushes the barrel further up into engagement when the gun cycles. What it did do was force the barrel lugs to be ground down by the lugs in the reciever unti they now fit again. The only problem with this is that he probably only has around .015" engagement left on the barrel. The cure is to swap the barrel or to weld up the lugs and then refit them to the reciever with the correct link which a good smith can handle, but this one sent him back to Colt for the work. I hope he didn't ruin the lugs in his reciver as well, which sounds like he might have messed them up with this stunt.
He said he only had 53 rounds through it to begin with. Now he has changed the story to the smith changed the link trying to fix the lug problem. His original post about this said that he took the gun to a smith to check some of his minor work. Boy have I heard this one before, "My brother in law took this one apart and I can't get it back together." I warned him about the bill he is going to get. He says he is about to start a his bid to have them fix it. <<<LOL>>>
Folks please don't take this the wrong way, but 53 rounds isn't enough to know if the gun functions correctly. Break the gun in with at least a couple of hundred rounds before deciding something needs to be changed. Then go slowly in to that dark night........ Unless you have a good knowledge of the weapon, never change something out especially something like a link which changes the lockup of the gun. This guy took a brand new gun and ground it down to a wore out gun in a hurry. I don't know why it happens, but things like this happen a lot.
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