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jnojr
June 24, 2005, 02:49 PM
Can a police officer buy a post-'86 MG, or can only the department buy one? And, if the officer can buy one, what happens if s/he moves to another department, quits, retires, is medically retired, etc.?

ATW525
June 24, 2005, 03:13 PM
Individuals cannot own Post-86 machine guns. Only SOTs, law enforcement and government agencies. So only the department can buy one.

Hawainpanda
June 27, 2005, 02:56 PM
whats an SOT?

ATW525
June 27, 2005, 03:02 PM
SOT = Special Occupation Tax... it means an FFL holder who in addition to thier normal fees are paying an annual tax to the government in order to deal in NFA weapons. The amount of the tax varies depending on the occupation... a dealer in NFA weapons pays less than a manufacturer, for instance.

Hawainpanda
June 27, 2005, 03:30 PM
hmmmm, so not even security companies can have autos? So the SOT's are the middle men between gunmakers and goverment agencies?

ATW525
June 27, 2005, 04:14 PM
Pretty much, except that the gun makers are also SOTs if they make machine guns... or any other NFA regulated weapon. But your basic rent-a-cop agency can't buy post-86 machine guns. Mercenary style companies can get around this by buying the guns in the country they're operating in and not worrying about US laws... they of course can't bring the weapons back, though.

Hkmp5sd
June 27, 2005, 05:26 PM
hmmmm, so not even security companies can have autos?

At least they apply it somewhat fairly. A couple of years ago, the UN was caught issuing their security guards brand new MP5s. The .gov made them get rid of them.

But then, Ted Kennedy's bodyguard gets busted carrying an unregistered machinegun on the steps of the US capital and nothing was done to him.

James K
June 27, 2005, 05:35 PM
IIRC, the Kennedy bodyguard's gun was legally registered, just not legal in D.C. or to have in the Capitol building. Again, IIRC, the bodyguard was not prosecuted, but the gun was confiscated.

Jim

Hkmp5sd
June 27, 2005, 05:41 PM
You're probably right. I can't remember all of the details.

Hawainpanda
June 27, 2005, 05:52 PM
lol, that's pretty funny, confiscated and...a new addition to the US armory
wonder if the body guard got it back....it would be a pity if it wasn't

FLRich
July 25, 2005, 02:27 PM
Some Capitol Police Chief probably has it hanging on his office wall! :rolleyes: