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Third_Rail
April 17, 2005, 09:53 PM
I picked this beauty up earlier today for a small amount. I think it'll be kept on my desk next to the (now puny looking) 2 3/4" shell. :D


http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12627&stc=1

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12628&stc=1

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12629&stc=1

DuPont black powder load, Winchester manufacture. 1 3/4 oz BBB shot.

chris in va
April 17, 2005, 10:29 PM
Wow. Looks more like a howitzer round.

novus collectus
April 17, 2005, 10:38 PM
Is that for a punt gun or something? I'd like to fire the shotgun that goes in just once. (after I get health insurance) :)

Third_Rail
April 17, 2005, 10:48 PM
Commercial bird/duck hunters used large gauge shotguns to harvest meat for sale.

Punt guns are even bigger.

novus collectus
April 17, 2005, 10:50 PM
It was a joke or an exclamation. An example of my wonderment since I have never seen an 8 guage before.

Third_Rail
April 17, 2005, 11:01 PM
:p

So there.


If I can ever get my hands on one, I'd love to have a 4 gauge shell in my collection. :D

mtnboomer
April 17, 2005, 11:18 PM
The 8 ga. was a monster by any definition! Guaranteed to loosen every filling in your mouth! Yes, they were used for commercial harvesting of game to the point of nearly depleting most species of wildlife in many areas - it was that efficient. The 8 ga. was probably the single biggest reason for states creating regulated hunting seasons. It's destructive power was also the reason the government restricted shotgun bore size to 10 gauge. :eek:

novus collectus
April 18, 2005, 06:26 AM
The 8 ga. was a monster by any definition! Guaranteed to loosen every filling in your mouth! Yes, they were used for commercial harvesting of game to the point of nearly depleting most species of wildlife in many areas - it was that efficient. The 8 ga. was probably the single biggest reason for states creating regulated hunting seasons. It's destructive power was also the reason the government restricted shotgun bore size to 10 gauge
Or it was that the states were tired of their citizens getting detached retinas. :D

Ruger4570
April 18, 2005, 08:09 AM
Looks like the shell I need for 27 yard Trap... big ain't it

fwcofficer
April 18, 2005, 10:12 AM
I'd like to see (and feel) the cannon that its launched out of!!! Yikes! :eek:

Dave McC
April 18, 2005, 10:19 AM
A couple things about the 8 gauge.

Parker made several thousand 8 gauges and a smattering of 6 gauges. Most of these went to market hunters, who used them to pick off cripples after use of the punt gun. Punt guns ran up to 2" in diameter, were fastened to boats and resembled artillery more than shoulder fired arms.

Market hunters varied greatly, like any other group, but man for man they were tough as heck. Many worked outside all year, fishing, crabbing, oystering and hunting as the seasons changed.

And they could shoot well past the commonality. Such men, combined with the heavy doubles and slow powders of yesteryear, meant the recoil forces were just something to deal with.

One such man, in his seventies when I was a boy, handled a 10 gauge double and shot it like Jupiter hurling lightning bolts. He had his dad's punt gun mounted on the living room wall, and could seduce geese from over the horizon when he called.

We see few large gauges these days because they were regarded as tools, taken care of but not pampered. After they became illegal for geese, many rusted away in barns and boat houses.

Often loads like this one were used to flock shoot on rafts of geese, with lighter loads used for single birds. One loading I saw was 1 3/8 oz of 3s for big ducks like canvasbacks or geese over decoys.

Third_Rail
April 18, 2005, 11:59 AM
Wait, so they're illegal for sporting use, but legal to own? Or did the GCA do away with that?

mtnboomer
April 19, 2005, 12:30 AM
The shotguns are legal to own as they are considered antiques/curios, but they are not legal to manufacture.

chris in va
April 19, 2005, 01:06 AM
Just googling, found a punt gun and a link for an 8ga.

http://img249.echo.cx/img249/72/seaside19158lt.jpg

http://www.drake.net/VMS115bL.jpg

steveno
April 19, 2005, 05:14 AM
I think that Remington still makes 8 gauge ammo (slugs only) and special guns for use in foundries for knocking slag out of the melting furnaces

pigeon shooter
April 19, 2005, 05:38 AM
People over this side of the pond still use them but most are home loaded shells also some use 4 bore shells at an amazing price £400 or $764 dollars for a bow of 25 :eek: :eek:

mvpel
April 19, 2005, 07:38 AM
A friend of mine has a four-bore shell on her desk - looks like a little brass shot glass.

Larry Ashcraft
April 19, 2005, 05:13 PM
special guns for use in foundries for knocking slag out of the melting furnaces
My son works at Cherokee Power Plant in Denver. They use the 8 ga to clean the slag out of the boilers.

no 8
June 15, 2005, 06:47 PM
The 8ga shotshell looks large,but in reality the shot load was from 1 3/4 oz to 2 1/4 oz ,in the early 1900s, no difference than todays 10 an 12 ga mag loads. Modern 8 ga loads are 2 1/2 oz, ive shot several 8 ga guns, the amount of recoil depends on the weight of the gun. My current 8 ga weight is around 11 pounds.8 ga are legal in some states for turkey hunting ect

steelersfan0000
June 15, 2005, 06:51 PM
That would be a big gun :D

Death from Afar
June 15, 2005, 07:51 PM
How do they use the shotgun to clean the slag out? :confused:

Springer45
June 15, 2005, 08:48 PM
How do they use the shotgun to clean the slag out?

They point it at the new guy and say, "Get in there and clean that slag out!".

Larry Ashcraft
June 15, 2005, 09:30 PM
How do they use the shotgun to clean the slag out?
Not sure they use the shotgun. They use the shell.

I don't know. :confused: I can ask my son this weekend.

ethernectar
June 15, 2005, 09:36 PM
"Get in there and clean that slag out!".

Ha hahahhaahaaa

Too funny.

Eghad
June 16, 2005, 10:07 AM
I think that Remington still makes 8 gauge ammo (slugs only) and special guns for use in foundries for knocking slag out of the melting furnaces

My father in law gave me one said it was used to bust stuff up at the papermill where he worked.

dickfunk
June 16, 2005, 11:44 AM
They point it at the new guy and say, "Get in there and clean that slag out!".
Quite possibly the funniest thing I've seen all week I can't stop laughing!! :D

no 8
June 16, 2005, 07:34 PM
Both Remington and Winchester produce 8 ga industrial loads for various uses,these loads come in lead or zink slugs,also buckshot loads and no 2 fine shot.i have a number of these also various foreign loads. these shells are loaded to very high pressure and would destroy a sporting 8 ga gun.

shecky
June 16, 2005, 09:46 PM
I was told that 8ga was used sometimes to knock down overhangs and such in outdoor mining operations. The gun was described as looking like a miniature Howitzer.

no 8
June 17, 2005, 04:41 PM
Ive seen pictures of the indostrial guns, one type is mounted on a trypod,neither type look like a sporting type gun. Remington also made electric primed shells used to fire into the ground to give off readings for exploring,not shure exactly what this was all about.

Larry Ashcraft
June 17, 2005, 09:50 PM
This is Larry's son Jimmy responding.
The 8 guage that we use in the power plant is does not compare to a sporting shotgun. It is a single shot has no stock and weighs about 20 pounds. It is hung from above while it is shot. We use it to clean clinkers out of the boilers (I wish they let the new guys use it. I am still waiting for the day.) From what I gather it uses a light load I am not sure about shot size. It is a very interesting shotgun. I am still trying to convince management that it would work wonders for pigeon control.

no 8
June 18, 2005, 08:43 AM
INDUSTRIAL SLUG LOADS ARE 2OZ AND 3 OZ,bUCKSHOT IS 00,FINE SHOT IN NO 2 OR 4 SIZE,3 OZ. OTHER LOADS HAVE BEEN PRODUCED.I HAVE A PETERS CEMENT LOAD FROM EARLY 1930 S

rjbman
March 18, 2006, 04:59 PM
I'm brand new to this forum. I was trying to find an 8 ga. brass shotshell
for sell to add to my collection and ran across your forum. I have a couple 8guage in my collection, one Remington, the other is an Eley. Both are still being made. I'm told that some tiger hunters used the 8 guage Eley to shoot tigers in the heavy grass areas. I found the information on the boat very interesting. In Md. they were called "sneak" boats. The not so sporting people would skull out to where the geese were throw back a tarp and open up with their 4,6 and 8 ga. cannons. If anyone knows where I might find a 8 gauage brass shell (inert) let me know.

rj

sparkysteve
March 19, 2006, 02:17 PM
Wow, that thing would turn your shoulder 5 shades of purple. That's crazy.

ArgieFAL
March 19, 2006, 06:47 PM
I have two family members who swear by the 10g for geese.

I partook of the shooting experience. It was less than pleasant, but doable.

I can't imagine the joys of the 8g.

Argie

san_chang4837
April 8, 2006, 08:03 PM
Did they ever make slugs for punt guns? Perhaps for an elephant or something?

rjbman
June 14, 2006, 02:34 PM
I'm not sure about slugs in the punt guns, however I have
read where some Chesapeake sneak boats used nuts, bolts
and other hardware in the larger punt guns. I can't imagine
what the geese must have looked like after they were shot.
Probably already defeathered, cleaned, cut and ready for packaging.

wacki
June 14, 2006, 03:14 PM
pics don't seem to work for me?

can someone rehost using http://imageshack.us/?