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RAGRIFFIN
April 11, 2005, 08:51 AM
I have an 11-87 that is consistently shooting 8 inches right and 8 inches low. Has any one seen this before? What are some possible solutions?

K80Geoff
April 11, 2005, 09:01 AM
What are you shooting, shot, buck, slugs? What type of sights?

How do you know it is shooting low right, what distance to the target?

Are you shooting Right or left?

Do you know which is your dominant eye?

If you are shooting shot with a bead, your stock needs adjustment. If you are right handed and it shoots to the right, try adding a layer or two of moleskin to the stock where your cheek rests. You can find sheets of stick on moleskin in shoe stores, or sometimes in supermarkets (Dr Scholls displays).

HunterTRW
April 11, 2005, 09:19 AM
Geoff makes valid points in his post. In addition to them could it be possible that your gun's barrel is bent? If this is the case, a competent gunsmith can correct the problem.

Good luck, and good shooting!

RAGRIFFIN
April 11, 2005, 03:38 PM
I have been shooting several different turkey loads through different chokes and the center of the pattern is always low and right. I have had different shooters shoot it also with the same result. At 35 yards it is 8 inches right and 8 inches low. At 10 yards it is 2 inches low and 2 inches right. I have not tried slugs or anything. The barrel is 21 inches long with the remington double beads on the vent rib.

kudu
April 11, 2005, 06:34 PM
If one of the beads was off center by even 1/64 of an inch it could cause the left to right discrepancy. Peening may solve this problem. The beads should be stacked one on top of the other for a center pattern, figure 8 style, my guess is your lining them up one in front of the other and that's why it shoots a bit low.

My .02's for what it's worth.

HunterTRW
April 12, 2005, 08:24 AM
In his Shotgunner's Notebook the late Gene Hill had this to say about the subject:

"When I talk to a shooter, after a consistent series of misses, about the possibility of his gun barrel being crooked, he usually smiles and marks me down as a crank.

"Well, let me tell you of just a few who didn't. One is an Olympic hopeful who had a lot of misses at trap on left-angling birds. I suggested he bench-rest and pattern his gun. Guess what? The upper-left quarter of the pattern was virtually blank, and the bulk of the load was in the right half. Fifteen minutes with a gunsmith and that problem was solved.

"Another friend was breaking every target--of those he broke at all-- on the left side. Both barrels of his over-under, when properly patterened, were a full two-thirds of a pattern width off to the left...

"A gun barrel is a lot more fragile than most people believe. A careless toss into a car trunk or someone knocking it out of a rack at a shoot can bend it or take the barrel out of round, creating eccentric pattern placement. I've asked several prominent choke experts how many barrels they got to work on that shot where they should. The answer? Very, very few.

"Any competent gunsmith can bring the barrel back to shooting where it should, either by straightening it out if it's bent or getting the muzzle back in round if that's what's wrong."

Please, take Gene's advice. Then, if necessary, have it checked out by a competent 'smith. What do you have to lose (besides those annoying misses)?

Good luck, and good shooting!

K80Geoff
April 12, 2005, 08:45 AM
Remington had a problem with choke tubes not centered in the barrel a few years ago. I believe the barrels were mostly found on 870 express models.

Non concentric choke tubes could be the problem.

Find someone with the same model gun and swap barrels for a test. Or try a different barrel.

Clemson
April 12, 2005, 09:28 AM
I once had an 1100 with a bent barrel. It took one look by the old gunsmith at the Remington repair center to confirm it, and Remington sent me a new barrel.

Clemson