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center mass
March 20, 2005, 08:27 AM
I need to trim down my moss 500 bird gun for coverage on a 22ft boat. Lots of inland overnight trips and a planned trip to the Bahamas living aboard. Don't have the money for a new Mariner but salt water trips should be minimum. REF folding stocks: I have seen online the Butler Creek side-folder. Don't like the look or the way it hangs below the receiver. The Choate seems made of metal, some say heavy but appears to lay high over the receiver. The Advanced Technology seems like a decent fit, compact, and light. Nylon? Any drawbacks? Any other recommendations. All information and experiences sought. I want a short barrel that will fire anything. Is the factory barrel the way to go?

Chris

fal308
March 21, 2005, 09:28 AM
There are quite a few threads in the archives about boating. Though most deal with trips of more duration than yours and talk about piracy. Use the search engine above.
From what I've read in the threads that I've searched through there are two things you need to research; the legality of carrying firearms into whatever port(s) you'll be visiting (i.e. according to one thread on int'l sailing, in Thailand you can be executed for having a firearm on board) and what type of firearms you will need.
I realize that mostly you'll be in US territorial waters but these may help you somewhat.
Also IIRC from one of those threads there is a website that lists known piracy incidents and locales, can't remember who runs the website though (maybe USCG? or some maritine insurance carrier?)

FirstFreedom
March 21, 2005, 11:07 AM
Don't forget - places like Mexico if you port there will arrest you and throw you in the pokey for having any gun (is my understanding) - don't ask, don't tell, and keep it hidden is probably the best policy (in *most* places - maybe not Thailand :eek: ). Dunno about Bahamas. Keep some 12 ga flares around, both for use as flares, and as your "reason" for having a gun on your boat if the local police give you grief. Keep other ammo hidden after docking. Of course, anti-rust metal finishes on all parts and surfaces is the most important practical issue out there, to keep the gun in working order.

Wraith
March 21, 2005, 12:33 PM
Get the copstock from knoxx. Top folder, can use sights while folded, cuts recoil 50%. If you're going to replace the barrel and the stock, you might as well buy a new one!

center mass
March 22, 2005, 09:37 AM
The copstock looks like a nice stock and the recoil reduction would be nice. I'll screen the archives. Thanks for the information guy's.

mikikanazawa
March 23, 2005, 02:26 AM
If you need to shorten the length of pull (for navigating small quarters), Mesa Tactical has a stock adapter so you can use AR collapsing stocks. I've used it and it's first rate. However, the Mossberg's safety is not in an ideal location for a pistol grip stock.