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ctdonath
February 11, 2000, 12:21 AM
Tell me about it.

Saw some pictures and little description of it. I'm impressed that someone actually, really re-thought the submachinegun (any gun for that matter) from square one.
Unfortunately, besides pictures and a few sentences, I can't find any info about it.

http://www.securityarms.com/pics/655.jpg

- Barrel length?
- Ammo feeding mechanism?
- Design principles/history?
- Optics?
- Overal dimensions?
- Any chance of a civilian getting one in the US? semi-auto version maybe?

It's quite intriguing...

nyeti
February 11, 2000, 03:24 AM
Chances will be nil at getting one. There is a good article in the Guns magazine COMBAT Annual 2000.

Grunter
February 11, 2000, 05:34 AM
Any firearm cambered in 5.7X28mm isnt avaliable to civilians in the US because the cartridge was designed to defeat level IIIA body armour - obviously a plus if you are crime wanting to do battle with the law.

For technical info on the P90 have a look at this site : http://www.remtek.com/arms/fn/p90/index.htm

(It would still be fun to use one though!!)

fal308
February 11, 2000, 09:43 AM
SAR also did an in-depth review, including suppressor, in the August 1998 issue, Volume 1 Number 11.

point308
February 17, 2000, 05:15 AM
The FN P90 was reviewed in the Gun Digest Book of Assault Weapons, 3rd Edition.
Could scan the pages if you want.

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Nyterunner
February 19, 2000, 02:58 AM
My department has four of them, and they are truly scarey. I fired at 1/4" angleiron, and it looked loke someone had cut holes in the metal with a torch. I don't know about the terminal effects, but it is DEFINITELY armor-piercing. The bullet is supposed to tumble 180 degrees in the target and provide a non-survivable wound from any torso hit. At least that's what we've been told. It's also supposed to have very little penetration through wallboard, but I haven't shot that yet. It is LE and military only.
There is no difference in barrel length from the subgun and the pistol. the subgun has a suppressor that can be attached to the barrel in place of the flash suppressor. It is about 6" long by about 1.25" diameter. there is an AP round, a tracer round, and a subsonic round. There is NO felt recoil when firing, and a fifty round magazine can be emptied without any appreciable change in point of aim. we have aimpoints on ours.

ctdonath
February 19, 2000, 12:14 PM
Nyterunner,
Nice first-hand summary. Makes me want to get a Class III license in NY (only slightly easier than moving a mountain) just to get my hands on one.

What is the barrel length?

Nyterunner
February 19, 2000, 07:02 PM
I don't have my reference material at hand (and they won't let us take them home!), but around five inches or so. the action is located immediately above and slightly behind the trigger/grip assy. The safety is a dial at the bottom of the trigger guard and works EXTREMELY well. Everyone likes it.

Nyterunner
February 19, 2000, 07:04 PM
I called one of my teammates and he advised a bbl length of 7.25" on the subgun, and about five on the pistol. We haven't gotten those yet, but they're on order.

munitor
June 16, 2000, 03:24 PM
Anyone have a picture of a disassembled P90 magazine? I am curious how they got the rounds to rotate 90 degrees?

Thanks.

cobraman
June 16, 2000, 04:47 PM
It definately falls in to my Neato category.

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dZ
June 17, 2000, 07:05 AM
http://www.fnmfg.com/products/p90/p90.htm

Military & LEO only

dZ

Mulio Rex
June 17, 2000, 02:25 PM
Nyterunner: I read some place that the FN P90 (where is my F'n P90 damnit?!)has one reliability problem.
I read that if a large portion of the magazine was expended then the weapon was exposed to a stiff physical blow (being dropped or whacked into the wall by excited personell) that the rounds in the magazine would become disorganized.
Any truth to that?

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4V50 Gary
June 18, 2000, 09:40 AM
Easily handled with either one hand or two, left or right (thanks to the bottom ejection). Low recoil makes it very pleasant to shoot and controllable in the full auto mode.

Darthmaum
June 20, 2000, 10:37 PM
All I know is, I WANT ONE! :(