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c&bc96
January 19, 2005, 09:37 PM
Hi,
I've a 1st generation Colt SAA (1882), and I can't remove the cylinder bushing.
I've tried soaking it in Liquid Wrench, but it won't push out.
A friend has a 1902 SAA, and the cylinder bushing comes out with ease.
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Jerry

Dfariswheel
January 19, 2005, 10:43 PM
Could be rusted or fouling-frozen in place.

Warm the cylinder and bushing with a hair dryer to allow the fluid to penetrate.
WARM it DON'T heat it up with a torch or something, JUST warm. A hair dryer is PLENTY of heat.

While warm use a PLASTIC hammer or screwdriver handle to give sharp raps around the cylinder.

Use BRASS curved levers to try to lift the bushing out by hooking them under the groove in the bushing.
(Make up one or two screwdriver blade-LIKE levers. Bend them so when you hook them under the groove you can lever the bushing up).

Take note, that on old guns, God knows WHAT someone may have done to it over the years, from a pressed-in bushing to one that's been soldered in.

If the normal methods don't work, you may have to resort to a screw extractor or even having a GOOD milling machine operator cut it out.

Dave Sample
January 20, 2005, 02:22 PM
Why do you want to take it out? I set them on my vice jaws and smack it out with a big ball peen hammer and a brass punch that I made for that purpose. Good Luck.

c&bc96
January 20, 2005, 09:45 PM
The cylinder has a lot of "play" front to rear, and a gunshop owner suggested that a new bushing might remedy this.
Are they usually this tight?, as I said, a friend's SAA bushing came out with thumb pressure.
Thanks for your help.
Jerry

Dfariswheel
January 21, 2005, 01:05 AM
The bushing SHOULD slide out.

Again, yours could be rusted in place, age and fouling frozen in place, OR somebody did who knows what like Loctite, solder, epoxy, or pressing one in with a press.

Old original cylinders are NOT easy to find, or cheap.
Take this one to a gunsmith who can extract WHATEVER is in there without damaging a hard to replace cylinder.

Dave Sample
January 21, 2005, 01:30 PM
I do not take Pistols to Gunsmiths. I would take it to a Pistolsmith. However, any smith can cut that bushing out with an end mill. If it was made back in 1882, and it hasn't been messed with by some Klutz, it is a very valuble gun and if you start messing with it, it will lose most of it's collector value.
Having said that, you have a couple of options. You can haver a smith replace that bushing with a Uberti part which will be inexpensive, or maybe a Uberti Part from Colt that will buckle your knees. The Uberti parts are available from Cimarron Arms.
If you can get it out of there, Ron Powers makes some shims that will take the endshake out of it and they are really easy to install.
I recently restored a 1910 Colt SA by installing all new Uberti Parts. The gun belonged to the man's grandfather who bought it new and a brother in law had destroyed it. Every smith in Arizona said it could not be fixed, so I did it, of course. The parts ran about $160.00 and it took a lot of time to get it right, but now it runs like new. I told him since it had been reblued, rebarreled, and ruined that it had no collector value and it was a $500.00 gun when I finished it. It was a loser for me , but that man was a happy camper when he picked it up. The job was $285.00 and took about 10 hours. I am not known to be a good business man. I just love it when it can't be done! The cylinder bushing was ruined in this one, too. I did get it out, however.

c&bc96
January 21, 2005, 04:27 PM
I sent the gun to afellow in Phoenix, that was recommended by guys in the CAS club.
The factory letter says it was shipped out in March of 1882.
I wouldn't go too high on the value, it has almost none of the original nickel finish and the grips are rather worn.
Hopefully everything can be put to right.
regards,
Jerry

Dave Sample
January 21, 2005, 11:28 PM
Good Luck. Sounds like a very valuble gun to me. That is what the gun collectors like. I hope it's still worth about $10,000.00 when you get it back.

c&bc96
January 26, 2005, 04:24 PM
The colt came back today, Bob James in PHX replaced the bushing and had it back to me in couple of days. Unfortunately, he says the pistol is too worn mechanically to be a safe shooter. But it's still nice to have.
Jerry