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wayneinFL
January 11, 2005, 07:36 PM
I have a Ruger carbine in 44 mag., not the Deerfield carbine, but the older version, SN starts with 102.

I don't have the manual in front of me- please correct me if I use part names like "thingamajiggy".

I bought this used and fired it once. I pulled the action and barrel off the stock to clean it. When I did two screws fell out. I found where the screws went- one slotted screw at the rear of the receiver, and one allan screw at the front of the mag tube- I think it's the assembly with the gas piston. I put the screws back in and cleaned and oiled everything.

After I put it together, it would not cycle ammunition- the bolt would lock to the rear when hand-cycling, as if the magazine were empty. I don't think it ever did that before.

What's wrong?

DT Guy
January 11, 2005, 08:42 PM
Never even handled one, so this is a SWAG*: did you somehow trap the the piston with the screw or or reverse it?


Good luck!

Larry

*SWAG=Scientific Wild-A$$ Guess

samoand
November 1, 2005, 08:41 PM
I'm having same exact problem - if it is a problem indeed. I picked up a 44 mag at a gun show, never shot it yet; played with blanks though and observed identical behavior. Is it the way it's supposed to work? Perhaps the chamber needs that burst from a real cartridge to induce feeding from the tube, and so it will act differently when actually fired? Too bad I won't make it to rifle range any time soon. wayneinFL - or anybody else - did you find out anything? -Cheers!

Rimrod
November 2, 2005, 11:22 AM
But lets see. Samoand use real ammunition. Wayne I have two books on disassembly/reassembly of that rifle, neither of which is very clear. The one does however mention the hole in the magazine tube and they say to install a nail in it to ease reassembly, but it doesn't stay in the gun. They both do say that the gun can be tricky and left to a competent gunsmith.

Good luck,
Rod

fhp490
November 2, 2005, 11:05 PM
you can view or download your manual here

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/SE-InstructManuals.html

wayneinFL
November 2, 2005, 11:12 PM
wayneinFL - or anybody else - did you find out anything?
You know I keep meaning to take it out to the range to see if that happens while firing, but I just haven't got around to it.

Of course, the range is closed due to hurricane damage, so it's not going to happen this weekend.

They both do say that the gun can be tricky and left to a competent gunsmith.
That's probably what I'm going to do, if it doesn't work.

The one does however mention the hole in the magazine tube and they say to install a nail in it to ease reassembly, but it doesn't stay in the gun.
Bear in mind I posted this in January. It's all a little fuzzy. The hole I put the allan screw in was threaded, and, IIRC, there was another hole elsewhere. I wouldn't have messed with anything but when I pulled the action from the stock, those two screws fell out on the kitchen table. They had been lying there for some time; that's the way it came from the previous owner. I simply put the screws in where they fit.

samoand
November 3, 2005, 10:15 AM
hmm... it appears that it's a fairly rare rifle - if even a competent bunch here holds their silence. I'll make sure to report the results when I get around to taking it to a range. -Best regards!

samoand
November 10, 2005, 04:12 AM
Greetings all! Mine works fine with live ammo; cycles them just as expected. I won't go into speculations as to why hand-cycling causes different behavior. - Best regards.

akles
November 17, 2005, 08:49 PM
The bolt will stay locked open untill the release in back of
the loading gate is pushed in that is how mine works