View Full Version : New to shotguns...need defense load recomendations for Super 90
July 27, 2002, 08:05 PM
I just bought a Benelli M1S90 "Tactical." I am going to use it to replace my AK for "room broom" anti-home invader duty. I want to use the most effective manstopper that is availible and trustworthy.
July 27, 2002, 08:22 PM
Many LE depts. use #4 buck (not bird) shot. Yes, 00 and 000 buck are the legendary shotgun load, but they and other large pellet buckshot penetrate doors and walls. If that's what you're trying to do, fine. But #4 is less likely to do that, yet still can remove major appendages at typical HD ranges. Also gives you more pellets per shell, and in the right SG patterns well at HD ranges. In any case, test what you want to use against a whiteboard on the range to determine patterning with your gun.
July 28, 2002, 12:03 AM
I agree with popnokick, and Erick has good advice;)
July 31, 2002, 07:57 AM
my Mossberg loaded w Sellier and Belliot, 15 pellet 00 buck...Now in my lightweight pump gun, the recoil is pretty (OK VERY) stout..Also I seem to get alot more "spread" with these than others have reporting...Once again, pattern the gun with different loads, see what works best for your intended use..
July 31, 2002, 01:29 PM
Agree with Erik
My 2cents - the one that patterns best - ie - you gotta pattern your gun
July 31, 2002, 02:12 PM
Gotta chime in agreement.
Research, and test. Test patterning, recoil, reliability, penetration. You'll also get to know your shotgun better and develop confidence in the gun, ammo, and yourself through live fire.
The Benelli isn't a cheap shotgun. What fraction of it's cost is a few dozen rounds of each kind of buckshot?
July 31, 2002, 02:24 PM
I agree completely with the advice about testing different loads to find out which one your shotgun likes the best. When you begin your pattern testing, give #1 Buck a chance. This load offers the greatest surface area per pellet count of the defensive loads, but having said that... what patterns best in your shotgun will be the load of choice,
July 31, 2002, 03:33 PM
Pattern to find out what does well with that particular gun.
At inside the home distances you dealin with a large bore rifle. Don't count on spread to make up for poor aim.
July 31, 2002, 04:40 PM
The main consideration for me is my engagement zones. My house will not contain buckshot or slugs. Likewise, my neighbors homes won't stop them either. On three sides of my home are neighbors. The fourth side I could use a 105mm howitzer with no concerns.
For me, with close engagement ranges, # 2 birdshot is my first up loads. Usually two in the magazine. Sidesaddle has four #4 buck, two slugs.
Think about your situation and plan things on a worst case scerario - like missing. Bad guys have the ability to move when threatened - plan accordingly.
August 1, 2002, 05:40 AM
The two houses to my left and right are about 20 feet from exterior wall to exterior wall.
The three across the street (if you were looking out my front door) are, from left to right, 50 yards, 40 yards, 60 yards.
Exterior on my house is masonite, studs are 2x4, interior is drywall.
Exterior on three neighbor's homes are the same as mine. One neighbor has T-111 siding, one has vinyl. Most new construction here is vinyl siding.
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