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bamf
July 16, 2002, 02:19 AM
I'm thinking of modifying my current stock to become fully adjustable like the picture below. Anybody have any experience with them? Is it helpful?

http://www.graco-corp.com/images/GC4.jpg

Also I'm looking for barrel weights for my over under to assist in the swing, can anybody recommend a company and tell me where I can obtain them?

-Dan

Dave McC
July 16, 2002, 03:26 AM
If you're one of the 60% of shooters that differ enough from the mythical average that the standard stock doesn't fit you well, yes, an adjustable stock can be helpful.

No one shoots to their top performance with an ill fitting stock.There is a downside, tho...

The things do not come cheap.

They're heavier than standard stocks, giving a butt heavy feel.

And adjustable stuff sometimes comes loose and adjusts itself.

There's also the almost irresistible urge on a bad day to mess with the adjustments instead of concentrating on cheeking the stock, keeping the swing going, and the other stuff that really causes misses.

Unless you've done this before, I suggest getting your present stock fitted by having the proper LOP, drop at comb,etc, and going with that. If you've exhausted these options, then get the high priced stock like the pic.

Gamaliel Shooting Supply has Morgan pads and the CheekEez stuff if you want to try adjusting your present wood. They should have bbl weights also.

HTH....

bamf
July 16, 2002, 03:11 PM
As always Dave thanks for the advice.

-Dan

dfm
July 17, 2002, 08:44 PM
Can't speak from experience with the recoil unit in the picture but I think a serious competitor should have an adjustable comb on his gun to get a good fit.

I'd say that the average factory gun doesn't really fit anyone well. Those folks that think theirs do haven't ever had a gun fit to them. Basically, they don't realize that their gun is working against them because they don't know any different.

I've never had a friend yet try on of my comp guns w/adjustable stock, had the stock fitted to his specs, that came away thinking that Old Betsy at home was the perfect gun anymore.

dfm

PJR
July 17, 2002, 10:51 PM
Dave has pointed out most of the downfalls with them and a fitted stock is preferable. But to get fitted stock, you should go through a proper gun fitting that at least includes patterning and possibly some clay shooting. Getting fitted properly isn't cheap and neither is getting gunsmith to shave, bend or lengthen your stock.

The adjustable stocks are a good second choice and may be actually be better in some circumstances. I've owned two guns with adjustable combs and butt pads you can through do-it-yourself fitting get the gun to shoot where you want it. My current trap gun is fully adjustable.

Most of the set ups I've seen were aluminum and don't add much weight. The stock can be lightened by removing wood by boring holes in the back of the stock underneath the recoil pad. It's quite surprising actually how much wood you can take from a stock without compromising it's strength.

I think adjustable stocks and combs are good things for target shooters if their guns don't fit and they don't want to go to the expense of having a proper fitting. I've done both and getting an adustable is definitely cheaper.

Paul

Jim Watson
July 17, 2002, 11:11 PM
Adjustable stocks are nearly universal among serious trap and skeet shooters around here. Hang out at a range and look at the guns. Look at Trap & Field and the Skeet magazines, there are a lot of ads for stocks and weights, too.

I have an adjustable butt, my comb was ok.
I have one recommendation; when you get it like you want it, it feels good and you are hitting targets, leave the wrench at home so you won't be tempted to tinker with it every time you drop a target.

Dave McC
July 18, 2002, 05:46 AM
You're quite welcome, Dan....

Folks, for decades I used standard stocks with usually good results,even tho they're way too short and have excessive drop for my gorilla body and long neck. Then,when I got my TB, the longer LOP with the trap stock and Morgan pad and the less drop from the M/C comb got me better "Into the Gun" than ever before. I like it enough I bought a similar stock for Frankenstein. A little 5 stand and preserve shooting shows the longer M/C stock works in the field too.

A standard stock can be adjusted somewhat w/o sending it to an expert bender. Repeaters can be shimmed between the head of the stock and the rear of the receiver with toothpicks, folded foil, or pieces of old hulls scissored to fit.

Spacers can be used to lengthen a stock, or it can be shortened of course. A shim under the pad at either the top or bottom, can also adjust the pitch. This can aid comfort as well as helping the fit.

Combs too low even after shimming can have a CheekEez pad added to reduce drop.

We can even mimic cast at toe by drilling a new hole for the bottom pad screw to the right(for RH shooters) of the old one.

And finallly, Wenig stocks offers utility grade walnut stocks for most common shotguns that are just roughed in for about $55, last I looked. These are oversize in all dimensions, so simply inletting the thing into your receiver and then rasping,cutting, sanding and so on until it fits perfectly will give you the results we all want.

HTH....

PJR
July 18, 2002, 08:41 AM
Dave:

Good points. My perspective comes from being an absolute klutz when it comes to woodworking. The prospect of me taking a rasp to any gunstock is enough to make me break out in a cold sweat. My motto is: "Measure twice and have someone who knows what he is doing do the cutting."

Paul

Dave McC
July 18, 2002, 03:52 PM
Tim Allen would call me "Tool-Challenged, Paul.

Even so,I've redone a couple of stocks and had them look and work well after.

I'd send out a good piece of wood, but such are scarce at Casa McC these days. Utility grade stocks are different.