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Lotzinger
July 14, 2002, 07:04 AM
what about the origin meaning of "PPC"

in the internet there are several meanings and i would the original one ...

Jim Watson
July 14, 2002, 09:03 AM
To a pistol shooter, PPC stands for Practical Pistol Course, the course of fire developed by the FBI in the 1930s for training and still in use for qualification and competition.
It is now often known as Police Pistol Competition since the course of fire is no longer considered realistic enough for training purposes, but that is a much more recent term.

To a rifle shooter, PPC stands for Pindell-Palmisano Cartridge, the .22 and 6mm rounds those men developed for benchrest shooting.

braindead0
July 15, 2002, 07:07 AM
I'm kinda curious too, there's a range where I just shot IDPA (first shoot) and several of the folks there suggested shooting PPC. The range has a flyer, and it says PPC means Practical Pistol Competition...

fed168
July 15, 2002, 08:51 AM
I guess now it is a fancy version of bullseye. I think it is fun to shoot, at least it works on the marksmanship skills.

braindead0
July 15, 2002, 09:12 AM
Is there a website with rules or something? When I try searching, I end up with IPSC/IDPA and others....

Lotzinger
July 15, 2002, 11:23 AM
i thoght it was practical police course, too, but i saw different versions. thanks. all the versions here in TFL still make sense, so everybody should choose his favorite one.

i am performing ppc here in germany, but we only name it "1500".

braindead0,
try www.wa1500.org for some information ...

Jim Watson
July 15, 2002, 02:48 PM
I stand by "Practical Pistol Course" as the ORIGINAL term described by Paul B. Weston, who was an active shooter in the '30s and saw it developed. It got to the standard 1500 format in 1959. But William C. Joyner, the 1970 champion, called it the "Practical Police Course." NRA runs most of it now and calls it "Police Pistol Combat" and admits only law enforcement officers.

Th Ohio organization has CoF descriptions and illustrations at:
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/2351/index.html

NRA will sell you a rule book for $2.50 but does not have it online.

There are several different events for different guns. Match (heavy barrels, ribs, three-position sights, etc.), Distinguished (factory barrel and sights), and Service (fixed sights). with separate events for revolvers and autos. At the Nationals there will also be a Duty gun match, with guns and ammo issued on the firing line. Tradtitionally those are 4" fixed sight .38s.
My PPC contact says you would need to take six guns to enter all major events at the Nationals these days. He shoots a Schmitt heavy barreled S&W M10, an M52, an M14, an M581, a Ruger 95, and is looking for a Distinguished auto to replace his Gold Cup because he cannot make it or any 1911 shoot.
Big matches will have a riot gun event, and backup gun sidematches, too.

fed168
July 15, 2002, 03:35 PM
Briandead0, try this one for rules, courses of fire, etc:
www.ncpolicepistolleague.com.

braindead0
July 15, 2002, 03:42 PM
Interesting info, sounds like PPC has been used by a lot of people to mean sorta the same kinda thing... Ugh.

Mike Davies
July 15, 2002, 05:56 PM
The most common "official" meaning of PPC that I've seen in Canada is "Police Pistol Combat". I used to think it meant "Police Pistol Competition", however, and that seems to be used a lot amongst competition shooters from other disciplines.
For example:
http://www.colwoodppc.com/index2.htm[/URL]